Entre_Perpetuo Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Kansas for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Is this a serious poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Is this a serious poll? Not sure. I wasn't even aware that Toto had recorded any other songs besides Africa, Hold The Line and Roseanna until Mick and Segue started endlessly ranting about them on this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Love both. Toto especially. But this poll is for albums: Point Of Know Returns wins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2012/10/kansas.jpg?w=600&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I love Kansas but i never enjoyed Point as much as the rest of the classic run. plus Toto has my heart so i stand in the likely minority......Toto. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 For me, POKR is an easy winner here. Africa and Rosanna are great tunes, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Both great albums but I do prefer the Kansas one here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I'm with Treeduck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 OK...giving TOTO IV a listen right now... Rosanna is still a perfect song. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Toto IV received six Grammy Awards in 1983 including Album of the Year, Producer of the Year for the band, and Record of the Year for "Rosanna". Lorraine, check this out: At a time when most bands were using a single 24-track recorder Toto used as many as 3 separate 24-track recorders at the same time.[7] The 24-track recorders were linked with a computerized SMPTE time code system that allowed for up to 69 individual tracks of sound simultaneously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Hadn't heard Make Believe in ages. Catchy chorus, but not as impactful as Rosanna, overall. And then comes I Won't Hold You Back. This track cracked the Billboard top 10, and held the #1 spot on the Adult Contemporary List. Another track whose chorus is absolutely killer, but getting to it isn't all that fun. I'm shocked to see that this album only went triple platinum, selling 3 million plus in the US. I'd swear it sold 42 trillion copies, as it was everywhere back in the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 The production on POKR holds it back. The guitars and bass are kind of lost in the mix, and overall the sound is a little thin. And that's a shame, because this album was Kansas at their peak. From start to finish the material and the guitar work from Rich and Kerry is really good, and except for Lightning's Hand they're not heard as well as they could be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Onto Good For You, and, true to form, the chorus is A-1, solid gold magic. Throughout the song, Jeff Porcaro manages to be completely in-pocket and yet generate a perfect tension of anticipation. Such a great drummer! [checks time] Gotta go... :outtahere: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 The production on POKR holds it back. The guitars and bass are kind of lost in the mix, and overall the sound is a little thin. And that's a shame, because this album was Kansas at their peak. From start to finish the material and the guitar work from Rich and Kerry is really good, and except for Lightning's Hand they're not heard as well as they could be.The material is stellar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Change my mind. Toto IV wins this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Change my mind. Toto IV wins this. i called this, BTW. you fickle fukk, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Change my mind. Toto IV wins this. i called this, BTW. you fickle fukk, lol Mick IT ISN'T EASY WHEN BOTH BANDS ARE SEXY AS F*CK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Change my mind. Toto IV wins this. i called this, BTW. you fickle fukk, lol Mick IT ISN'T EASY WHEN BOTH BANDS ARE SEXY AS F*CK I KNOW RIGHT??? Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Change my mind. Toto IV wins this. i called this, BTW. you fickle fukk, lol Mick IT ISN'T EASY WHEN BOTH BANDS ARE SEXY AS F*CK I KNOW RIGHT??? Mick Toto, Kansas and Styx with Foreigner would be my dream US AOR lineup. Throw in Journey and Strangeways and you have MY WET DREAM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Onto Good For You, and, true to form, the chorus is A-1, solid gold magic. Throughout the song, Jeff Porcaro manages to be completely in-pocket and yet generate a perfect tension of anticipation. Such a great drummer! [checks time] Gotta go... :outtahere: One of the greatest AOR riffs ever. Nothing but good vibes. Nothing else at all. Love Make Believe as well, and side two also has some great deeper cuts. Also WOW about the Grammys and production stats! Did not know all of that. Such a great summer record. And I LOVE Kimbal’s voice. But overall, I’m a prog fan and a 70s fan at heart, and Kansas takes it here. Also, I’ve always found the production on PoKR to be stellar personally. The only place where it leaves me a little cold is the climax of the buildup at the start of Portrait, where the drums don’t come in super strong. Thankfully my CD has a bonus track that’s a remix (an actual re mixing, not some total butchering of the song) where the drums hit just right. Maybe not MP or PeW perfect production, but not far off. For me it sounds better than Leftoverture tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Kansas album easily. Toto is a very good "singles" band, while Kansas is a very good "album" band. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakly Criminal Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Toto has two good songs, HTL and Rosanna Rosanna Dana. Africa sucks. Kansas fills three albums with art to start and then has occasional hits to finish. It's not a contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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