JARG Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 http://youtu.be/ir-NYVFsSB4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 now this is art tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Yeah that's not obvious at all. It's weird though. The iso part sounds like it's getting ahead of the rest of the songs. YYZ was one I just could never get clean, and that was before the arthritis set in. Now it's not even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Makes sense they punched in the bass solos. If he flubbed one he wouldn't have to start all over again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfriar Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Makes sense they punched in the bass solos. If he flubbed one he wouldn't have to start all over againThis^^^Didn't they give up laying down backing tracks live in the studio, after it took 46 (or something) takes to nail LaVilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 What is the source? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbear05 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 That was just badass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 What is the source? Moving Pictures :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 What the hell is a punch-in? Cool to hear the isolated bass track though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfriar Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 What the hell is a punch-in? Cool to hear the isolated bass tracks though.Fixed. Brought to you by the letter "s" :hail: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 What the hell is a punch-in? Cool to hear the isolated bass tracks though.Fixed. Brought to you by the letter "s" :hail: Hahaha! YOU ROCK! Can't wait to get my YYZass to Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 This is the song that changed my life forever kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) What the hell is a punch-in? Cool to hear the isolated bass track though. A recording tool that allows you to fix a specific part of a track where a mistake was made without re-recording the entire track. If done correctly. it's supposed to sound seamless. In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. I would think it would have been easier to set up a 2nd track entirely and start from a few measures before each solo and then blend it in once they were nailed, but what do I know? Edited February 6, 2019 by edhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) On a side note, I spent a considerable amount of time as a kid listening to the cassette sitting on the bed with my Aria Pro II bass stopping and rewinding this to try to learn the song. This technology would have been awesome. Edited February 6, 2019 by Rick N. Backer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 What the hell is a punch-in? Here's one scenario: Let's say you're a guitarist recording a challenging solo. Halfway through it, you flub a few notes, but up until then you'd doing great, so you keep playing until the end. You're worried that if you try to re-record the entire solo again, you won't be able to play it as well as before, but there's still the problem of those flubbed notes. A punch-in is a recording technique where just a small piece of a recording is re-recorded. So in this scenario, you play the solo again, perhaps starting a few measures before the flub, and when you get to the point where the flub is, the recording engineer hits the record button for a few seconds (however long is needed to address the flub) and then turns it off once you're on the "other side" of the flub. Nowadays, with digital recording, you can automate the punch-in process: you set where the punch-in and punch-out needs to happen and the computer takes care of the rest. In the case of YYZ, the most obvious punch-ins are during the 3 bass solos. I doubt they were to cover flubs, in this case, though. I think Geddy just wanted to be able to concentrate on getting a good performance for each solo. Also, the effects during the solo might have been too challenging to trigger in real-time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 I would think it would have been easier to set up a 2nd track entirely and start from a few measures before each solo and then blend it in once they were nailed, but what do I know? Agreed. My DAW, of course, allows for punch-in recording, but I hardly ever use it. If there's a mistake that I need to fix, I record the fix on an additional track and then edit out the mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Neil once said he fixed his flubs with sweat and blisters. But we know how Neil can be. :codger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbear05 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 What the hell is a punch-in?In the case of YYZ, the most obvious punch-ins are during the 3 bass solos. I doubt they were to cover flubs, in this case, though. I think Geddy just wanted to be able to concentrate on getting a good performance for each solo. Also, the effects during the solo might have been too challenging to trigger in real-time.I get this YYZ, particularly in Geddy's 3rd solo, at the point where he switches to playing the harmonics at the end. He seems to have a hell of a time doing it in the live recordings. At one time many years ago I fooled around at playing bass, and just imagining anyone, much less Ged, try to play it blows me away. :geddy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. You don't think the change in tone was intentional? I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. You don't think the change in tone was intentional? I do. I do too. There's a lot of different bass tones going on in the song, so the bass track may well have been recorded in several different takes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. You don't think the change in tone was intentional? I do.When Terry Brown was producing Rush albums everything was intentional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Eyes Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I think the tone of those little parts was intentionally changed to make them pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthemic Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. You don't think the change in tone was intentional? I do.When Terry Brown was producing Rush albums everything was intentional. yeah, recording book 1 in the wrong key, what an intentionally genius move, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. You don't think the change in tone was intentional? I do.When Terry Brown was producing Rush albums everything was intentional. yeah, recording book 1 in the wrong key, what an intentionally genius move, eh? ETA: Wasn't that Book II? Edited February 10, 2019 by goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 In this example you'll notice a complete difference in the tone and feel of the bass solos in YYZ. It's like they went to fix them a week or two after the original track was recorded and couldn't remember the board settings or something. You don't think the change in tone was intentional? I do.When Terry Brown was producing Rush albums everything was intentional. yeah, recording book 1 in the wrong key, what an intentionally genius move, eh? ETA: Wasn't that Book II? Correct. Book II was written in Eb, but Broon insisted it be recorded in F#. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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