RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The goat is the symbol of the devil!!! 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 One advantage Brady has over ALL other QBs is that as far as it is known he is STILL continuing to play. Now he could be a hurrible next year or he could possibly reach the SB again.....One thing for sure he's STILL looking for that LI SB jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? Manning sh*t his own pants after New Year's Day much more often than not. Yet he holds a better head-to-head playoff record...and did even better in the championship games. They've never been involved in a play at the same time. But their respective records in the post season speak for themselves. But I agree that analysis puts someone like Marino precisely where he belongs historically. Somewhere around Tony Eason's caliber.Epic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 G O A T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Yep im a Pat's Fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Prior to Sunday, playoff teams down 17+ points at the end of the 3rd were a combined 0-121. And down 19+ were 0-93. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Leadership, clutch, drive, determination, carrying the team on your back - call it what you will. Here is the list of active QB's with the most career 4th Qtr comebacks. 1. Tom Brady - 39 (2nd all-time to Peyton Manning's 45)2. Eli Manning - 303. Ben Roethlisberger - 294. Drew Brees - 285. Tony Romo, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford - 258. Phillip Rivers - 229. Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer - 2111. Joe Flacco - 1912. Alex Smith - 1813. Russell Wilson - 1714. Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck - 1416. Ryan Tannehill, Cam Newton, Derek Carr - 1219. Matt Schaub - 1120. Mark Sanchez, Aaron Rodgers- 1022. Colin Kaepernick, Josh Freeman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel - 9 Other QB's with 10+ are: Tim Couch, Stan Humprhies, Don Majkowski, David Garrard, Aaron Brooks, Steve Beuerlein, Marc Bulger, Trent Green, Jay Schroeder, Jon Kitna, Steve DeBerg, Kerry Collins. I don't have updated figures but as of the 2015 season, Rodgers was 0-25 when trailing by 9+ in the 2nd half. So I ask you, trailing in the 4th by a touchdown, do you want Brady behind center or Rodgers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordercollie Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Trent Dilfer had more 4th Q comebacks than Rodgers currently does. As many rings as well. Gimme some Dilfer, yeah!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman?Peyton Manning would have thrown in the towel in the third quarter. He shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brady or Montana. You can make Peyton Manning quit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Between Brady and Montana, the difference would be very slim. I would hate to live on it. Even though I loved Joe, I think Tom has done more with less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) I don't have updated figures but as of the 2015 season, Rodgers was 0-25 when trailing by 9+ in the 2nd half. One of the most misleading stats one could ever publish. Aaron Rodgers and his offense would be noted for many more "comebacks" if the Packer defense had done its job. In 2008, especially (Rodgers' first year as starter), the defense stunk up the field in the 4th quarter, and wasted every scoring drive that the offense made. For most of the past nine seasons, Aaron Rodgers and his offense have consistently scored late, only to see the other team's offense come right back and score again. This has been the #1 difference between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers over the past ten years: Brady has had a consistently good defense to help him win; Rodgers has not. This is what happens when the sports media keeps hyping one player (the quarterback) over the entire team. The media's goal is to have its viewing audiences focus solely on the Hero. They draw more ratings and profits that way. Who cares about the defense and the clutch plays that they make? It's all about the Golden Boy, be he Brady, Rodgers or any other quarterback..... Edited February 9, 2017 by Principled Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman?Peyton Manning would have thrown in the towel in the third quarter. He shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brady or Montana. You can make Peyton Manning quit. Eli is a better post season QB than Peyton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Duio Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman?Peyton Manning would have thrown in the towel in the third quarter. He shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brady or Montana. You can make Peyton Manning quit. Eli is a better post season QB than Peyton. BY FAR. Especially considering the teams he was able to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Leadership, clutch, drive, determination, carrying the team on your back - call it what you will. Here is the list of active QB's with the most career 4th Qtr comebacks. 1. Tom Brady - 39 (2nd all-time to Peyton Manning's 45)2. Eli Manning - 303. Ben Roethlisberger - 294. Drew Brees - 285. Tony Romo, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford - 258. Phillip Rivers - 229. Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer - 2111. Joe Flacco - 1912. Alex Smith - 1813. Russell Wilson - 1714. Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck - 1416. Ryan Tannehill, Cam Newton, Derek Carr - 1219. Matt Schaub - 1120. Mark Sanchez, Aaron Rodgers- 1022. Colin Kaepernick, Josh Freeman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel - 9 Other QB's with 10+ are: Tim Couch, Stan Humprhies, Don Majkowski, David Garrard, Aaron Brooks, Steve Beuerlein, Marc Bulger, Trent Green, Jay Schroeder, Jon Kitna, Steve DeBerg, Kerry Collins. I don't have updated figures but as of the 2015 season, Rodgers was 0-25 when trailing by 9+ in the 2nd half. So I ask you, trailing in the 4th by a touchdown, do you want Brady behind center or Rodgers?I'd rather have a QB and team that built a lead and didn't need a lot of 4th quarter comebacks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I can't believe the Texas Rangers are wasting time searching for Brady's game jersey when pitchers and catchers report in less than a week! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 http://offthemonstersports.com/2017/02/joe-montana-refuses-to-acknowledge-tom-brady-being-the-greatest-of-all-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 http://offthemonstersports.com/2017/02/joe-montana-refuses-to-acknowledge-tom-brady-being-the-greatest-of-all-time/I agree with joe. This has been the most pro QB era in history rule wise and it's hard to compare guys that came before with guys now especially since we don't count pre super bowl era championships as equal to super bowl championships for whatever reason. I don't think tom is the best ever either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 http://offthemonstersports.com/2017/02/joe-montana-refuses-to-acknowledge-tom-brady-being-the-greatest-of-all-time/ Bradshaw threw 84 passes in 4 Super Bowls. I'm 5'11 192 lbs. In Unitas' day I'd have been a defensive end. Today's QBs contend with defensive players who are bigger, stronger and faster than their predecessors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 http://offthemonstersports.com/2017/02/joe-montana-refuses-to-acknowledge-tom-brady-being-the-greatest-of-all-time/ Bradshaw threw 84 passes in 4 Super Bowls. I'm 5'11 192 lbs. In Unitas' day I'd have been a defensive end. Today's QBs contend with defensive players who are bigger, stronger and faster than their predecessors.But you'd have been allowed to slap Johnny on the side of his head in second down and take out his knees on third. Makes a QB think a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick N. Backer Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 http://offthemonstersports.com/2017/02/joe-montana-refuses-to-acknowledge-tom-brady-being-the-greatest-of-all-time/ Bradshaw threw 84 passes in 4 Super Bowls. I'm 5'11 192 lbs. In Unitas' day I'd have been a defensive end. Today's QBs contend with defensive players who are bigger, stronger and faster than their predecessors.But you'd have been allowed to slap Johnny on the side of his head in second down and take out his knees on third. Makes a QB think a bit. And the guys chasing Brady are now about 6 inches taller, 70-80 lbs. heavier, but run the 40 in about 4.4. Getting hit by them is bad enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 http://www.facebook.com/TomBrady/videos/860427340665084/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 http://offthemonstersports.com/2017/02/joe-montana-refuses-to-acknowledge-tom-brady-being-the-greatest-of-all-time/ Bradshaw threw 84 passes in 4 Super Bowls. I'm 5'11 192 lbs. In Unitas' day I'd have been a defensive end. Today's QBs contend with defensive players who are bigger, stronger and faster than their predecessors.But you'd have been allowed to slap Johnny on the side of his head in second down and take out his knees on third. Makes a QB think a bit. And the guys chasing Brady are now about 6 inches taller, 70-80 lbs. heavier, but run the 40 in about 4.4. Getting hit by them is bad enough.And the secondaries are more athletic than ever, as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordercollie Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) http://offthemonster...st-of-all-time/ Bradshaw threw 84 passes in 4 Super Bowls. I'm 5'11 192 lbs. In Unitas' day I'd have been a defensive end. Today's QBs contend with defensive players who are bigger, stronger and faster than their predecessors. I'll tell 60s era Deacon Jones, Bob Lilly, and Dick Butkus you called them diminutive pansies... Edited February 13, 2017 by bordercollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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