ReRushed Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The way I see it, any analysis that puts Montana ahead of Brady is reliant on intangibles at the center of the argument. Because there just isn't a reasonable way to make that argument on statistics.You can't compare stats. Offensive (especially passing) stats are way inflated in this era compared to the 80s. Montana played in a far more difficult conference, Falcons, Rams & Saints of the 80's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The entire "Greatest Of All Time" debate is a farce. 1. Professional football has evolved a LOT in the past 80+ years. Rules have changed, offensive and defensive schemes and philosophies have changed, players have become bigger, stronger & faster, and the level of permitted physicality and roughness has changed. There is no way we can know if a present-day quarterback would have succeeded or even survived in past eras. The #1 attribute of a QB in the past was his ability to take a BEATING. 2. There is no way to prove that Y.A. Tittle, Johnny Unitas, or any other past quarterback "WOULD HAVE" done well in today's game. Similarly, there is no way to prove that Brady, Rodgers Manning, etc. "WOULD HAVE" done well in the past. The "WOULD HAVE" hypothetical argument is nothing more than biased speculation and rhetoric. The only thing we an say for certain about Tom Brady is that he is the most successful quarterback of his Era. If we magically replace Brady with Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, or any other top QB, can we be sure that those QB's would be as successful? NO - we still can't. It's still just speculation......endless, redundant speculation. Just my opinion...... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The way I see it, any analysis that puts Montana ahead of Brady is reliant on intangibles at the center of the argument. Because there just isn't a reasonable way to make that argument on statistics.You can't compare stats. Offensive (especially passing) stats are way inflated in this era compared to the 80s. Montana played in a far more difficult conference, Falcons, Rams & Saints of the 80's? He said conference. You even bolded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I rewatched the game this morning and I think he cemented his place in NFL history IN the top three. He could easily be 7-0 or 0-7 with each SB coming down to at least one possession. One thing for sure he's pretty good I never they had a chance to comeback, I don't know how many other QBs in the same situation could've pulled off that victory. He's the JORDAN of the NFL, and now has a new legion of fans that despise him the coach and the PATRIOT team. He's giving his MVP vehicle to White just like in 2015 nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I HATE New England. I HATE Tom Brady. I HATE Bill Belichick. But after yesterday Brady and Belichick are both the greatest of all time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Not for me. I would take elway, Montana, Unitas over tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? Edited February 7, 2017 by Tombstone Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphseeker Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman?Aikman's busy stating Tom Brady is the Goat!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? I was a big steelers fan growing up. Bradshaw was surrounded by HOF guys. He was great for that team, but technically, he wasn't that good of a quarterback. Staubach was superior in every way IMO... from that era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? I was a big steelers fan growing up. Bradshaw was surrounded by HOF guys. He was great for that team, but technically, he wasn't that good of a quarterback. Staubach was superior in every way IMO... from that era.Stabler was great, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The way I see it, any analysis that puts Montana ahead of Brady is reliant on intangibles at the center of the argument. Because there just isn't a reasonable way to make that argument on statistics.You can't compare stats. Offensive (especially passing) stats are way inflated in this era compared to the 80s. Montana played in a far more difficult conference, Falcons, Rams & Saints of the 80's? He said conference. You even bolded it.Bucs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The way I see it, any analysis that puts Montana ahead of Brady is reliant on intangibles at the center of the argument. Because there just isn't a reasonable way to make that argument on statistics.You can't compare stats. Offensive (especially passing) stats are way inflated in this era compared to the 80s. Montana played in a far more difficult conference, Falcons, Rams & Saints of the 80's? He said conference. You even bolded it.Bucs? My guess he was talking more about the Bears, Giants, and Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Thank you to all the patriots, coaches, Robert Kraft....Great Job ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick N. Backer Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? Manning sh*t his own pants after New Year's Day much more often than not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? Manning sh*t his own pants after New Year's Day much more often than not. Yet he holds a better head-to-head playoff record...and did even better in the championship games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordercollie Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The way I see it, any analysis that puts Montana ahead of Brady is reliant on intangibles at the center of the argument. Because there just isn't a reasonable way to make that argument on statistics.You can't compare stats. Offensive (especially passing) stats are way inflated in this era compared to the 80s. Montana played in a far more difficult conference, Falcons, Rams & Saints of the 80's? Conference, not division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 http://youtu.be/phY0-urez5M Roger that!! :haz: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? Manning sh*t his own pants after New Year's Day much more often than not. Yet he holds a better head-to-head playoff record...and did even better in the championship games. They've never been involved in a play at the same time. But their respective records in the post season speak for themselves. But I agree that analysis puts someone like Marino precisely where he belongs historically. Somewhere around Tony Eason's caliber. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman?I think they were analyzing the game... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He cemented his legacy as the best ever in my view last night. I'm not a Patriots fan at all really but I know success and excellence when I see it. Kudos to Mr Kraft and his team...I never saw Unitas play. I watched Joe Montana carve up defenses. I watched Peyton Manning make teams shit their pants during the regular season. Brady just wins championships. Belichik has much to do with it...but Brady is pulling the trigger. Bottom line: it's very difficult to compare greats. Brady has the numbers to lay claim to the title though. PS: Where's Bradshaw? Aikman? Manning sh*t his own pants after New Year's Day much more often than not. Yet he holds a better head-to-head playoff record...and did even better in the championship games. They've never been involved in a play at the same time. But their respective records in the post season speak for themselves. But I agree that analysis puts someone like Marino precisely where he belongs historically. Somewhere around Tony Eason's caliber. After a few years and it finally surfaces...you do have a sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The way I see it, any analysis that puts Montana ahead of Brady is reliant on intangibles at the center of the argument. Because there just isn't a reasonable way to make that argument on statistics.You can't compare stats. Offensive (especially passing) stats are way inflated in this era compared to the 80s. Montana played in a far more difficult conference, Falcons, Rams & Saints of the 80's? Conference, not division.That's still six by-weeks per season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 A goat? A GOAT'S ASSHOLE WITH WHITE WORMS OOZING OUT OF IT'S PINK DIRTY HOLE OF SHITE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 More proof that professional sports are FIXED!!!! Brady, Belicheat and Kraft are in bed with TRUMP!!!! LOL! HYPOCRITICAL PATS FANS WHO ARE LIBERAL PROTESTERS! LOL! Shut down your cities you fools!!! TRUMP IS THE DEVIL! Glad I voted for Hillary!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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