Greta Van Fleet Album Finally Released!

[bathory]

I can't think of a "zep clone" I ever dug. my favorite soundgarden record is louder than love though

[bathory]

I'll give this a listen for certain, because I did enjoy a few of the singles and thought they showed good improvement over their earlier material. That said, I'm not enthralled by the band in general. They always come off to me like they're trying to sound like LZ and more importantly not trying to sound like themselves. If they manage to write great songs and great albums I'm all ears, good songs and albums overrule everything (see LZ's own plagiarism), but their earlier stuff just wasn't great. Hopefully this is better.

 

Glad y'all enjoy it though. More rock to enjoy is never a bad thing.

 

Considering you listen to heavily watered down pop punk and very VERY commercialised "emo" that owes nothing to that genres roots, I find it surprising you sound so jaded against a back to the roots rock n roll album like this. It sounds fresh and vintage, and we are living in a day and age in urgent need for rock to have another gamechanging moment like Nirvana. This band is showing great promise of bringing crowds back. It shouldn't matter if they sound old, they have a sound that anyone who loves guitar music can be drawn too. No overdubs, Facebook meme-worthy lyrics, no cliche breakdowns or top 40-esque pop production. This is a great rock album. A PURE rock album. Like YYNot this year, they could be on the verge of true greatness.

 

I listen to many things. Production matters a lot to me. Guitars matter a lot to me. Proficiency matters a lot to me. Great songs and albums matter more. If you ain’t got the songs, I lose much of my interest, and prior to a few of the singles I’ve heard from this album, GVF had very little in their songs that interested me. As far as them sounding like zep, it isn’t that they sound like zep. It’s that they sound like they want to sound like zep, down to the last vocal warble. To me, that makes them sound robotic, calculated, but without good songs. If you tossed me a tape of randomly selected and jumbled together clips of actual LZ songs, it would have the same effect on me.

 

I understand who they’re emulating; I don’t understand what they bring to the table.

 

EDIT: also I’ve definitely heard some embarrassing lyrics from them.

 

To be fair, Zeppelin had some bad lyrics as well. The difference is Plant was cool enough to pull it off and not have anybody care.

 

sex and hobbits, what else is there to sing about?

[bluefox4000]

I did enjoy this album i won't lie BUT......much like YYNot and Rush........if Zep is ALL their going to sound like in the future i'll have little use for them. in both bands case it's a wait and see for me.

 

Mick

 

YYNOT sounds like Rush in certain spots but they have their own sound most of all. Can't say that about these lazy ass f***s in Gretta Van Fleet.

 

lol.

 

i see what you mean. i like it but it's not gonna have a very good shelf life. i'm not having as strong a negative reaction.

 

but yea. a month from now i won't even remember this honestly.

 

hell......next week i won't remember this, lol

 

Mick

Edited October 20, 2018 by bluefox4000

[Entre_Perpetuo]

I'll give this a listen for certain, because I did enjoy a few of the singles and thought they showed good improvement over their earlier material. That said, I'm not enthralled by the band in general. They always come off to me like they're trying to sound like LZ and more importantly not trying to sound like themselves. If they manage to write great songs and great albums I'm all ears, good songs and albums overrule everything (see LZ's own plagiarism), but their earlier stuff just wasn't great. Hopefully this is better.

 

Glad y'all enjoy it though. More rock to enjoy is never a bad thing.

 

Considering you listen to heavily watered down pop punk and very VERY commercialised "emo" that owes nothing to that genres roots, I find it surprising you sound so jaded against a back to the roots rock n roll album like this. It sounds fresh and vintage, and we are living in a day and age in urgent need for rock to have another gamechanging moment like Nirvana. This band is showing great promise of bringing crowds back. It shouldn't matter if they sound old, they have a sound that anyone who loves guitar music can be drawn too. No overdubs, Facebook meme-worthy lyrics, no cliche breakdowns or top 40-esque pop production. This is a great rock album. A PURE rock album. Like YYNot this year, they could be on the verge of true greatness.

 

I listen to many things. Production matters a lot to me. Guitars matter a lot to me. Proficiency matters a lot to me. Great songs and albums matter more. If you ain’t got the songs, I lose much of my interest, and prior to a few of the singles I’ve heard from this album, GVF had very little in their songs that interested me. As far as them sounding like zep, it isn’t that they sound like zep. It’s that they sound like they want to sound like zep, down to the last vocal warble. To me, that makes them sound robotic, calculated, but without good songs. If you tossed me a tape of randomly selected and jumbled together clips of actual LZ songs, it would have the same effect on me.

 

I understand who they’re emulating; I don’t understand what they bring to the table.

 

EDIT: also I’ve definitely heard some embarrassing lyrics from them.

 

To be fair, Zeppelin had some bad lyrics as well. The difference is Plant was cool enough to pull it off and not have anybody care.

 

sex and hobbits, what else is there to sing about?

 

"has anyone seen that confounded bridge?"

[Permanent-Rush]

GVF aren't half bad, I like there music but I agree they sound like Led Zep, but that doesn't mean there music is necessarily bad. I like them, maybe next album will be something new, something a bit different. Maybe they will find there own sound, who knows.

 

Nice to get a breath of fresh air from all that top 40 bullshit kids are controlled to hear. There is a psychology behind it, kids listen to only whats hot and trending and people just make it all so watered down and bland, yet the kids still like it. They don't care for what we care for, sad really. Top 40's is just all fake trash and the media is pulling and influencing people into liking it and listening to it, always been this way since music began. Kids believe if they like what's trendy, including top 40's they will be popular, which is Sad But True. While me on the other hand, I have never been popular at any school i've been to, i've always been the least popular, or 2nd to least, and I like mostly 80's and 90's music and not what's trending. Yep like I said, a psychology is behind being popular, sad really.

Edited October 20, 2018 by Permanent-Rush

[Entre_Perpetuo]

GVF aren't half bad, I like there music but I agree they sound like Led Zep, but that doesn't mean there music is necessarily bad. I like them, maybe next album will be something new, something a bit different. Maybe they will find there own sound, who knows.

 

Nice to get a breath of fresh air from all that top 40 bullshit kids are controlled to hear. There is a psychology behind it, kids listen to only whats hot and trending and people just make it all so watered down and bland, yet the kids still like it. They don't care for what we care for, sad really. Top 40's is just all fake trash and the media is pulling and influencing people into liking it and listening to it, always been this way since music began. Kids believe if they like what's trendy, including top 40's they will be popular, which is Sad But True. While me on the other hand, I have never been popular at any school i've been to, i've always been the least popular, or 2nd to least, and I like mostly 80's and 90's music and not what's trending. Yep like I said, a psychology is behind being popular, sad really.

 

The top 40 is rarely all garbage. Yes a lot of it is sucky songwriting and generic trend aping, but legitimately good artists who find legit success often make it up there as well. Check out the top 40 from 1973, it’s a classic rock candyland. Also, it’s unlikely that the majority of your peers listen to the music they think will make them cool. It’s more likely they are exposed to the top 40 often enough that they accept and come to like it, especially if they aren’t exposed to any out of fashion music. To be honest, probably most kids at most schools you’ve been to either don’t think much about what music they listen to, or are actually developing a very personal taste. The only difference is that they may not perceive the top 40 as garbage, or even know what it is. It doesn’t take a music nerd to love music. One of my roommates couldn’t probably tell you Robert Plant from Steve Perry, but he knows what sounds he likes, and he loves them with a passion. While his lack of knowledge can frustrate me, he undeniably cares deeply about what he listens to, and he knows what he doesn’t like as well. What I’m trying to say is just because you find yourself socially isolated, doesn’t mean everyone else is incredibly different from you. There are likely many people who’d like to get to know you if they felt they had the chance. And nobody but a coward will disrespect someone for loving something as passionately as you love music.

 

Sorry for the rant, just hoping I can lend some advice from the perspective of a perpetual social weirdo. Oh yeah GVF. I listened to their album last night. On the whole much better songwriting and a clearer sense of direction, I really do enjoy it. But I reserve judgement on their year end placing until I hear it a couple more times and sort out how much I really like it. But to give them a shred of credit, I listened through LZ I just before their album, and I hadn’t heard LZ I On a good long while, so I heard it with fresh ears and it was magical. Even after that GVF still impressed, so props for standing beside a classic and still holding some water.

[Entre_Perpetuo]

Okay okay okay...

 

I hate saying this but I was wrong about them, at least to an extent.

 

I decided after hearing the full length album I should go back and re listen to the first release, and I was wrong. It isn't perfect, and none of it lives up to a Dazed And Confused or a Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You... but the songs are there, the album flow is perfectly fine, the hooks and melodies and good inter-playing are all there. I argue it's been overhyped, but you are right. We rarely hear a band that plays together this well get this popular anymore. I mean the last group that actually got this popular was probably Royal Blood, and they were a watered down version of a watered down version of an idea that never had that much room to grow in the first place, albeit with some solid riffs and melodies. I enjoyed Royal Blood for what they were. And although they weren't at all original, their sound was too middle of the road to come off as though they were aping any particular group more than any other. That's something GVF are lacking, though it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Now I have been hearing subtle influences of other groups in GVF's music since last night, but the obvious Led Zeppelin worship is just plain obvious. That is undoubtably one of the leading things that turned me off about them. Right from the get go, their music screams "WE'RE TRYING TO BE LED ZEPPELIN PLEASE LOVE US!" It's really overbearing at first and I had a hard time judging the songs on their own merits when they were dressed up in every Zepism the band could recreate. That's probably why I didn't take to any of the songs on first impressions before.

 

I'll admit I didn't want to give them a second chance because I didn't need another Led Zeppelin in my life. I still don't, but these guys are not Led Zeppelin. The guitarist doesn't strike me as being on Jimmy Page's level. A lot of his soloing doesn't get much farther than a few blues licks. His riffs and rhythm playing are just fine though, and he can fill his space quite nicely. The singer is not Robert Plant. His voice is more shrill than Plant's was, and the grit sounds a little more forced than Plant's did. I actually hear quite a bit of Jon Anderson in how he uses his voice, a kind of mystic, high, friendly sound. He's doing his best Robert Plant impression, and he gets closer than 99% of anyone could dream of, but it's not about how you sound, but how you use the sound, and he doesn't use it quite the same way Plant did. At least not all the time. The drummer has power. Not as much as Bonham, but he's effective nonetheless. Maybe it's just the production, but he doesn't have the immediacy of Bonham. He's not knocking me out, but he's giving me a good reason to nod my head, so I'll take it. I think the best player here is actually the bass player. I'm constantly drawn to him in the mix, and he uses the attention lended to him well. He's melodic, but never overbearing. He can lay back at will, but when he comes he's got some clever licks and phrases. Even if they're likely as borrowed as the rest of the band's sound, something about it sounds sincere to me.

 

Now none of it would work if they didn't know how to play with each other, but they're as tight as any of the classic bands. Very professional, but loose enough to play with real feeling. So no, they are 100% not Led Zeppelin, and the sooner they evolve their sound to be less uncanny the better... but they have talent as players, they have talent as a group, and they have some legitimately good songs. When The Curtain Falls, Lover Leaver (Taker Believer), Safari Song, Watching Over, Age Of Man, Black Smoke Rising and a few more are certainly some of the better rock songs I've heard this year. I was wrong in my initial dismissal of them, I only hope I'm not wrong again in looking forward to their future.

[Segue Myles]

GVF aren't half bad, I like there music but I agree they sound like Led Zep, but that doesn't mean there music is necessarily bad. I like them, maybe next album will be something new, something a bit different. Maybe they will find there own sound, who knows.

 

Nice to get a breath of fresh air from all that top 40 bullshit kids are controlled to hear. There is a psychology behind it, kids listen to only whats hot and trending and people just make it all so watered down and bland, yet the kids still like it. They don't care for what we care for, sad really. Top 40's is just all fake trash and the media is pulling and influencing people into liking it and listening to it, always been this way since music began. Kids believe if they like what's trendy, including top 40's they will be popular, which is Sad But True. While me on the other hand, I have never been popular at any school i've been to, i've always been the least popular, or 2nd to least, and I like mostly 80's and 90's music and not what's trending. Yep like I said, a psychology is behind being popular, sad really.

 

As a huge fan of pop, I agree. The modern top 40 is mostly trash every week.

 

I agree on your view of the album too.

[goose]

Okay okay okay...

 

I hate saying this but I was wrong about them, at least to an extent.

 

I decided after hearing the full length album I should go back and re listen to the first release, and I was wrong. It isn't perfect, and none of it lives up to a Dazed And Confused or a Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You... but the songs are there, the album flow is perfectly fine, the hooks and melodies and good inter-playing are all there. I argue it's been overhyped, but you are right. We rarely hear a band that plays together this well get this popular anymore. I mean the last group that actually got this popular was probably Royal Blood, and they were a watered down version of a watered down version of an idea that never had that much room to grow in the first place, albeit with some solid riffs and melodies. I enjoyed Royal Blood for what they were. And although they weren't at all original, their sound was too middle of the road to come off as though they were aping any particular group more than any other. That's something GVF are lacking, though it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Now I have been hearing subtle influences of other groups in GVF's music since last night, but the obvious Led Zeppelin worship is just plain obvious. That is undoubtably one of the leading things that turned me off about them. Right from the get go, their music screams "WE'RE TRYING TO BE LED ZEPPELIN PLEASE LOVE US!" It's really overbearing at first and I had a hard time judging the songs on their own merits when they were dressed up in every Zepism the band could recreate. That's probably why I didn't take to any of the songs on first impressions before.

 

I'll admit I didn't want to give them a second chance because I didn't need another Led Zeppelin in my life. I still don't, but these guys are not Led Zeppelin. The guitarist doesn't strike me as being on Jimmy Page's level. A lot of his soloing doesn't get much farther than a few blues licks. His riffs and rhythm playing are just fine though, and he can fill his space quite nicely. The singer is not Robert Plant. His voice is more shrill than Plant's was, and the grit sounds a little more forced than Plant's did. I actually hear quite a bit of Jon Anderson in how he uses his voice, a kind of mystic, high, friendly sound. He's doing his best Robert Plant impression, and he gets closer than 99% of anyone could dream of, but it's not about how you sound, but how you use the sound, and he doesn't use it quite the same way Plant did. At least not all the time. The drummer has power. Not as much as Bonham, but he's effective nonetheless. Maybe it's just the production, but he doesn't have the immediacy of Bonham. He's not knocking me out, but he's giving me a good reason to nod my head, so I'll take it. I think the best player here is actually the bass player. I'm constantly drawn to him in the mix, and he uses the attention lended to him well. He's melodic, but never overbearing. He can lay back at will, but when he comes he's got some clever licks and phrases. Even if they're likely as borrowed as the rest of the band's sound, something about it sounds sincere to me.

 

Now none of it would work if they didn't know how to play with each other, but they're as tight as any of the classic bands. Very professional, but loose enough to play with real feeling. So no, they are 100% not Led Zeppelin, and the sooner they evolve their sound to be less uncanny the better... but they have talent as players, they have talent as a group, and they have some legitimately good songs. When The Curtain Falls, Lover Leaver (Taker Believer), Safari Song, Watching Over, Age Of Man, Black Smoke Rising and a few more are certainly some of the better rock songs I've heard this year. I was wrong in my initial dismissal of them, I only hope I'm not wrong again in looking forward to their future.

The guy's voice often reminds me more of Quiet Riot than Plant, and the guitarist seems more in line with Slash than Pagey. Those aren't criticisms, just observations.

 

What I most enjoy about the band is the rhythm playing around melodies. It's not original, obviously, but I think it's an effective and refreshing variation on classic 70's heavy rock.

[goose]

 

MR. KOTTERRRR!!!!!!

[Fridge]

Okay okay okay...

 

I hate saying this but I was wrong about them, at least to an extent.

 

I decided after hearing the full length album I should go back and re listen to the first release, and I was wrong. It isn't perfect, and none of it lives up to a Dazed And Confused or a Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You... but the songs are there, the album flow is perfectly fine, the hooks and melodies and good inter-playing are all there. I argue it's been overhyped, but you are right. We rarely hear a band that plays together this well get this popular anymore. I mean the last group that actually got this popular was probably Royal Blood, and they were a watered down version of a watered down version of an idea that never had that much room to grow in the first place, albeit with some solid riffs and melodies. I enjoyed Royal Blood for what they were. And although they weren't at all original, their sound was too middle of the road to come off as though they were aping any particular group more than any other. That's something GVF are lacking, though it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Now I have been hearing subtle influences of other groups in GVF's music since last night, but the obvious Led Zeppelin worship is just plain obvious. That is undoubtably one of the leading things that turned me off about them. Right from the get go, their music screams "WE'RE TRYING TO BE LED ZEPPELIN PLEASE LOVE US!" It's really overbearing at first and I had a hard time judging the songs on their own merits when they were dressed up in every Zepism the band could recreate. That's probably why I didn't take to any of the songs on first impressions before.

 

I'll admit I didn't want to give them a second chance because I didn't need another Led Zeppelin in my life. I still don't, but these guys are not Led Zeppelin. The guitarist doesn't strike me as being on Jimmy Page's level. A lot of his soloing doesn't get much farther than a few blues licks. His riffs and rhythm playing are just fine though, and he can fill his space quite nicely. The singer is not Robert Plant. His voice is more shrill than Plant's was, and the grit sounds a little more forced than Plant's did. I actually hear quite a bit of Jon Anderson in how he uses his voice, a kind of mystic, high, friendly sound. He's doing his best Robert Plant impression, and he gets closer than 99% of anyone could dream of, but it's not about how you sound, but how you use the sound, and he doesn't use it quite the same way Plant did. At least not all the time. The drummer has power. Not as much as Bonham, but he's effective nonetheless. Maybe it's just the production, but he doesn't have the immediacy of Bonham. He's not knocking me out, but he's giving me a good reason to nod my head, so I'll take it. I think the best player here is actually the bass player. I'm constantly drawn to him in the mix, and he uses the attention lended to him well. He's melodic, but never overbearing. He can lay back at will, but when he comes he's got some clever licks and phrases. Even if they're likely as borrowed as the rest of the band's sound, something about it sounds sincere to me.

 

Now none of it would work if they didn't know how to play with each other, but they're as tight as any of the classic bands. Very professional, but loose enough to play with real feeling. So no, they are 100% not Led Zeppelin, and the sooner they evolve their sound to be less uncanny the better... but they have talent as players, they have talent as a group, and they have some legitimately good songs. When The Curtain Falls, Lover Leaver (Taker Believer), Safari Song, Watching Over, Age Of Man, Black Smoke Rising and a few more are certainly some of the better rock songs I've heard this year. I was wrong in my initial dismissal of them, I only hope I'm not wrong again in looking forward to their future.

 

No way am I reading all of that!

[goose]

 

lol the hype

 

 

It's like marketing is trying to create reasons to hate this band...

Edited October 20, 2018 by goose

[Segue Myles]

Okay okay okay...

 

I hate saying this but I was wrong about them, at least to an extent.

 

I decided after hearing the full length album I should go back and re listen to the first release, and I was wrong. It isn't perfect, and none of it lives up to a Dazed And Confused or a Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You... but the songs are there, the album flow is perfectly fine, the hooks and melodies and good inter-playing are all there. I argue it's been overhyped, but you are right. We rarely hear a band that plays together this well get this popular anymore. I mean the last group that actually got this popular was probably Royal Blood, and they were a watered down version of a watered down version of an idea that never had that much room to grow in the first place, albeit with some solid riffs and melodies. I enjoyed Royal Blood for what they were. And although they weren't at all original, their sound was too middle of the road to come off as though they were aping any particular group more than any other. That's something GVF are lacking, though it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Now I have been hearing subtle influences of other groups in GVF's music since last night, but the obvious Led Zeppelin worship is just plain obvious. That is undoubtably one of the leading things that turned me off about them. Right from the get go, their music screams "WE'RE TRYING TO BE LED ZEPPELIN PLEASE LOVE US!" It's really overbearing at first and I had a hard time judging the songs on their own merits when they were dressed up in every Zepism the band could recreate. That's probably why I didn't take to any of the songs on first impressions before.

 

I'll admit I didn't want to give them a second chance because I didn't need another Led Zeppelin in my life. I still don't, but these guys are not Led Zeppelin. The guitarist doesn't strike me as being on Jimmy Page's level. A lot of his soloing doesn't get much farther than a few blues licks. His riffs and rhythm playing are just fine though, and he can fill his space quite nicely. The singer is not Robert Plant. His voice is more shrill than Plant's was, and the grit sounds a little more forced than Plant's did. I actually hear quite a bit of Jon Anderson in how he uses his voice, a kind of mystic, high, friendly sound. He's doing his best Robert Plant impression, and he gets closer than 99% of anyone could dream of, but it's not about how you sound, but how you use the sound, and he doesn't use it quite the same way Plant did. At least not all the time. The drummer has power. Not as much as Bonham, but he's effective nonetheless. Maybe it's just the production, but he doesn't have the immediacy of Bonham. He's not knocking me out, but he's giving me a good reason to nod my head, so I'll take it. I think the best player here is actually the bass player. I'm constantly drawn to him in the mix, and he uses the attention lended to him well. He's melodic, but never overbearing. He can lay back at will, but when he comes he's got some clever licks and phrases. Even if they're likely as borrowed as the rest of the band's sound, something about it sounds sincere to me.

 

Now none of it would work if they didn't know how to play with each other, but they're as tight as any of the classic bands. Very professional, but loose enough to play with real feeling. So no, they are 100% not Led Zeppelin, and the sooner they evolve their sound to be less uncanny the better... but they have talent as players, they have talent as a group, and they have some legitimately good songs. When The Curtain Falls, Lover Leaver (Taker Believer), Safari Song, Watching Over, Age Of Man, Black Smoke Rising and a few more are certainly some of the better rock songs I've heard this year. I was wrong in my initial dismissal of them, I only hope I'm not wrong again in looking forward to their future.

 

No way am I reading all of that!

 

Same lmao

[Segue Myles]

All I can say is:

 

Don't spout your mouth off about the value of a band until you are up to date.

 

At least hear the DEBUT album first.

 

If you want to discredit every band that ever had a highly derivative debut album, you would have never had the chance to see greatness blossom.

 

Greta Van Fleet are doing something old beautifully. How do I come to that conclusion? Well simple. I stayed quiet until I heard it in full.

[Entre_Perpetuo]

All I can say is:

 

Don't spout your mouth off about the value of a band until you are up to date.

 

At least hear the DEBUT album first.

 

If you want to discredit every band that ever had a highly derivative debut album, you would have never had the chance to see greatness blossom.

 

Greta Van Fleet are doing something old beautifully. How do I come to that conclusion? Well simple. I stayed quiet until I heard it in full.

 

Many of my criticisms still stand, just the most important one, “do they have the songs?” I no longer hold. Popular artists rarely have a chance to evolve before they fall out of the limelight anymore, so I tend to judge debuts harder as I don’t expect to hear anything more for another 2-3 years. I felt the way I felt when I was first introduced to them, and it was hardly a controversial opinion. After taking some more time with them my feelings lightened dramatically, which doesn’t usually happen. My first impressions generally resemble my later opinions. GVF are a rare case (like 21P) where my first impression was wrong.

[Entre_Perpetuo]

Okay okay okay...

 

I hate saying this but I was wrong about them, at least to an extent.

 

I decided after hearing the full length album I should go back and re listen to the first release, and I was wrong. It isn't perfect, and none of it lives up to a Dazed And Confused or a Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You... but the songs are there, the album flow is perfectly fine, the hooks and melodies and good inter-playing are all there. I argue it's been overhyped, but you are right. We rarely hear a band that plays together this well get this popular anymore. I mean the last group that actually got this popular was probably Royal Blood, and they were a watered down version of a watered down version of an idea that never had that much room to grow in the first place, albeit with some solid riffs and melodies. I enjoyed Royal Blood for what they were. And although they weren't at all original, their sound was too middle of the road to come off as though they were aping any particular group more than any other. That's something GVF are lacking, though it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Now I have been hearing subtle influences of other groups in GVF's music since last night, but the obvious Led Zeppelin worship is just plain obvious. That is undoubtably one of the leading things that turned me off about them. Right from the get go, their music screams "WE'RE TRYING TO BE LED ZEPPELIN PLEASE LOVE US!" It's really overbearing at first and I had a hard time judging the songs on their own merits when they were dressed up in every Zepism the band could recreate. That's probably why I didn't take to any of the songs on first impressions before.

 

I'll admit I didn't want to give them a second chance because I didn't need another Led Zeppelin in my life. I still don't, but these guys are not Led Zeppelin. The guitarist doesn't strike me as being on Jimmy Page's level. A lot of his soloing doesn't get much farther than a few blues licks. His riffs and rhythm playing are just fine though, and he can fill his space quite nicely. The singer is not Robert Plant. His voice is more shrill than Plant's was, and the grit sounds a little more forced than Plant's did. I actually hear quite a bit of Jon Anderson in how he uses his voice, a kind of mystic, high, friendly sound. He's doing his best Robert Plant impression, and he gets closer than 99% of anyone could dream of, but it's not about how you sound, but how you use the sound, and he doesn't use it quite the same way Plant did. At least not all the time. The drummer has power. Not as much as Bonham, but he's effective nonetheless. Maybe it's just the production, but he doesn't have the immediacy of Bonham. He's not knocking me out, but he's giving me a good reason to nod my head, so I'll take it. I think the best player here is actually the bass player. I'm constantly drawn to him in the mix, and he uses the attention lended to him well. He's melodic, but never overbearing. He can lay back at will, but when he comes he's got some clever licks and phrases. Even if they're likely as borrowed as the rest of the band's sound, something about it sounds sincere to me.

 

Now none of it would work if they didn't know how to play with each other, but they're as tight as any of the classic bands. Very professional, but loose enough to play with real feeling. So no, they are 100% not Led Zeppelin, and the sooner they evolve their sound to be less uncanny the better... but they have talent as players, they have talent as a group, and they have some legitimately good songs. When The Curtain Falls, Lover Leaver (Taker Believer), Safari Song, Watching Over, Age Of Man, Black Smoke Rising and a few more are certainly some of the better rock songs I've heard this year. I was wrong in my initial dismissal of them, I only hope I'm not wrong again in looking forward to their future.

 

No way am I reading all of that!

 

I should put something like “Some posts not for the faint of heart” in my signature, lol. You never know when I’ll start writing in paragraphs! :P

[greyfriar]

I'll give this a listen for certain, because I did enjoy a few of the singles and thought they showed good improvement over their earlier material. That said, I'm not enthralled by the band in general. They always come off to me like they're trying to sound like LZ and more importantly not trying to sound like themselves. If they manage to write great songs and great albums I'm all ears, good songs and albums overrule everything (see LZ's own plagiarism), but their earlier stuff just wasn't great. Hopefully this is better.

 

Glad y'all enjoy it though. More rock to enjoy is never a bad thing.

 

Considering you listen to heavily watered down pop punk and very VERY commercialised "emo" that owes nothing to that genres roots, I find it surprising you sound so jaded against a back to the roots rock n roll album like this. It sounds fresh and vintage, and we are living in a day and age in urgent need for rock to have another gamechanging moment like Nirvana. This band is showing great promise of bringing crowds back. It shouldn't matter if they sound old, they have a sound that anyone who loves guitar music can be drawn too. No overdubs, Facebook meme-worthy lyrics, no cliche breakdowns or top 40-esque pop production. This is a great rock album. A PURE rock album. Like YYNot this year, they could be on the verge of true greatness.

 

I listen to many things. Production matters a lot to me. Guitars matter a lot to me. Proficiency matters a lot to me. Great songs and albums matter more. If you ain’t got the songs, I lose much of my interest, and prior to a few of the singles I’ve heard from this album, GVF had very little in their songs that interested me. As far as them sounding like zep, it isn’t that they sound like zep. It’s that they sound like they want to sound like zep, down to the last vocal warble. To me, that makes them sound robotic, calculated, but without good songs. If you tossed me a tape of randomly selected and jumbled together clips of actual LZ songs, it would have the same effect on me.

 

I understand who they’re emulating; I don’t understand what they bring to the table.

 

EDIT: also I’ve definitely heard some embarrassing lyrics from them.

 

To be fair, Zeppelin had some bad lyrics as well. The difference is Plant was cool enough to pull it off and not have anybody care.

 

sex and hobbits, what else is there to sing about?

[Rick N. Backer]

I listened on Amazon. I liked it. The Zeppelin thing doesn’t bother me. If they covered Whole Lotta Love and Immigrant Song I could see people getting indignant. It’s an enjoyable album.

[bluefox4000]

Yea i don't get the outright anger here. it is on the lazy side. didn't stop my enjoyment at all.

 

i'll probably not be spinning this much. but....i dunno.....the anger here is a bit much IMO.

 

Mick

[J2112YYZ]

Yea i don't get the outright anger here. it is on the lazy side. didn't stop my enjoyment at all.

 

i'll probably not be spinning this much. but....i dunno.....the anger here is a bit much IMO.

 

Mick

 

Where was there anger?

[goose]

All I can say is:

 

Don't spout your mouth off about the value of a band until you are up to date.

 

At least hear the DEBUT album first.

 

If you want to discredit every band that ever had a highly derivative debut album, you would have never had the chance to see greatness blossom.

 

Greta Van Fleet are doing something old beautifully. How do I come to that conclusion? Well simple. I stayed quiet until I heard it in full.

:goodone:

[RUSHHEAD666]

Cover is really cool, listening to it right now.

 

So far the first song is pretty good.

 

This is crazy timing.

 

I bought the new album today and put it on 20 minutes ago.

 

I couldn't even get through the first song.

 

So boring and the production sounds like shit.

 

I put on the first Rush album instead.

 

A real Led Zeppelin rip off album. LOL!!

 

Kidding......

 

 

Or am I?

 

 

Van Halen Fleet sucks.

[Fridge]

 

I should put something like “Some posts not for the faint of heart” in my signature, lol. You never know when I’ll start writing in paragraphs! :P

 

Or maybe not for those allergic to pointless waffle lol....it's only rock n' roll, not a subject for a thesis lol.

[goose]

Cover is really cool, listening to it right now.

 

So far the first song is pretty good.

 

This is crazy timing.

 

I bought the new album today and put it on 20 minutes ago.

 

I couldn't even get through the first song.

 

So boring and the production sounds like shit.

 

I put on the first Rush album instead.

 

A real Led Zeppelin rip off album. LOL!!

 

Kidding......

 

 

Or am I?

 

 

Van Halen Fleet sucks.

Not every album can rise to the gripping energy of Snakes and Arrows. :P

[Segue Myles]

Cover is really cool, listening to it right now.

 

So far the first song is pretty good.

 

This is crazy timing.

 

I bought the new album today and put it on 20 minutes ago.

 

I couldn't even get through the first song.

 

So boring and the production sounds like shit.

 

I put on the first Rush album instead.

 

A real Led Zeppelin rip off album. LOL!!

 

Kidding......

 

 

Or am I?

 

 

Van Halen Fleet sucks.

Not every album can rise to the gripping energy of Snakes and Arrows. :P

 

So true...