blueschica Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Presto's tinpan production makes the album hard to listen to. I really only like the title track and The Pass, both of which sound much better live. I agree, you have put your finger on what I don't like about the studio album. Presto live is actually very pretty and The Pass live is much warmer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I don't think The Garden is great. I think it's just a nice song, but it isn't as profound as everyone seems to think it is. And Available Light is, as a song, more beautifully produced, better written, melodically memorable and the vocals are some of Geddy's greatest on record to date. Musically, it sounds quite unique for a Rush song. The Garden sounds tired and aimless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I don't think The Garden is great. I think it's just a nice song, but it isn't as profound as everyone seems to think it is. And Available Light is, as a song, more beautifully produced, better written, melodically memorable and the vocals are some of Geddy's greatest on record to date. Musically, it sounds quite unique for a Rush song. The Garden sounds tired and aimless. I agree about The Garden sounding tired. Very predictable musically. Nothing very unique about it at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Tomorrow a face off battleface, in one corner Available Light in another box The Garden. I will decide the victor and all debate will cease. So say we all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The Garden will win as most of this forum consists of lemmings. I don't mind. Keep running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Bah, the TRF...I decide without peanut gallery input. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I am a cashew, so I make my own decisions based on whatever sandwich filling I am eating at present. Feedback wins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 If it were up to the chuckleheads at TRF I'd never listen to 7800 Fahrenheit again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 If it were up to the chuckleheads at TRF I'd never listen to 7800 Fahrenheit again. Damn fine album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Tomorrow a face off battleface, in one corner Available Light in another box The Garden. I will decide the victor and all debate will cease. So say we all.Just make a poll with just those two songs. I don't see the big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Tomorrow a face off battleface, in one corner Available Light in another box The Garden. I will decide the victor and all debate will cease. So say we all.Just make a poll with just those two songs. I don't see the big deal. The only issue I have with polls is what is the point? They lead some to pat each other in the back whilst the rest proudly don't care one iota if the least popular is their favourite. Whose mind is going to be changed by a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day of Light Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Tomorrow a face off battleface, in one corner Available Light in another box The Garden. I will decide the victor and all debate will cease. So say we all.Just make a poll with just those two songs. I don't see the big deal. The only issue I have with polls is what is the point? They lead some to pat each other in the back whilst the rest proudly don't care one iota if the least popular is their favourite. Whose mind is going to be changed by a poll? I mean, hopefully it'll lead to a bit of topic-centric discussion with people explaining why they picked their song instead of just announcing they picked it. That's the idea, at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The Garden will win as most of this forum consists of lemmings. I don't mind. Keep running.OK, Zayn. Or is it Miley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Why should I (or anyone) have to give a reason why I like or don't like a song? I don't owe anyone an explanation. I like what I like. Don't like what I don't like. The end. :) Edited February 13, 2016 by Lorraine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The Garden will win as most of this forum consists of lemmings. I don't mind. Keep running.OK, Zayn. Or is it Miley? Neither. Rihanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Why should I, or anyone, have to give a reason why I like or don't like a song? I don't owe anyone an explanation. I like what i like. Don't like what I don't like. The end. :) Moody Blues! No need to justify that. They do it themselves! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day of Light Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Why should I (or anyone) have to give a reason why I like or don't like a song? I don't owe anyone an explanation. I like what I like. Don't like what I don't like. The end. :) That's a given, but I don't think any forum would exist if nobody ever gave any arguments for anything, ever. Discussion makes things fun. It lets people know other people better, and take a glimpse into the parts of their minds that they allow to show. So while explanations should never be necessary, I think they should be encouraged. If I cared only about my own opinions, I wouldn't be curious to know about what other people think, and I wouldn't ask questions. It's never been about objectively finding the "best" explanation. It's about exploration. Kind of what I like about this forum when compared to the Rush community on a site like Reddit. It's not an echo chamber. People are willing to talk, and they don't care enough about fake internet points to censor their real opinions for an amalgamation of the mildest, most popular ones combined with a faux-intellectual tone to sound like it's the only right way to think. I kind of went on a tangent, but it's been on my mind. Edited February 13, 2016 by Day of Light 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Why should I (or anyone) have to give a reason why I like or don't like a song? I don't owe anyone an explanation. I like what I like. Don't like what I don't like. The end. :) That's a given, but I don't think any forum would exist if nobody ever gave any arguments for anything, ever. Discussion makes things fun. It lets people know other people better, and take a glimpse into the parts of their minds that they allow to show. So while explanations should never be necessary, I think they should be encouraged. If I cared only about my own opinions, I wouldn't be curious to know about what other people think, and I wouldn't ask questions. It's never been about objectively finding the "best" explanation. It's about exploration. Kind of what I like about this forum when compared to the Rush community on a site like Reddit. It's not an echo chamber. People are willing to talk, and they don't care enough about fake internet points to censor their real opinions for an amalgamation of the mildest, most popular ones combined with a faux-intellectual tone to sound like it's the only right way to think. I kind of went on a tangent, but it's been on my mind. After you've been here longer, you might change your mind. Edited February 13, 2016 by Lorraine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The Garden will win as most of this forum consists of lemmings. I don't mind. Keep running.OK, Zayn. Or is it Miley? Neither. Rihanna.And Mick is Chris Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micgtr71 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I like Presto, there are a lot of great songs on this record. That being said, I think Superconductor is a horrible addition to this record. It is my least favorite Rush song and I would neither brush, floss or engage in any other bathroom activity more befitting this blemish on an otherwise fine record... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Available Light is one of the bands greatest songs.I think it's easily the best album closer of the last 31 years.The Garden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Available Light And here's why... Poetic Neil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedantic Neil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Available Light is one of the bands greatest songs.I think it's easily the best album closer of the last 31 years.The Garden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Available Light And here's why... Poetic Neil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedantic Neil.Did you forget what year it was? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Available Light is one of the bands greatest songs.I think it's easily the best album closer of the last 31 years.The Garden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Available Light And here's why... Poetic Neil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedantic Neil.Did you forget what year it was? And I expect a Snakes and Arrows limited edition to be released soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Available Light is one of the bands greatest songs.I think it's easily the best album closer of the last 31 years.The Garden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Available Light And here's why... Poetic Neil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedantic Neil.Did you forget what year it was? And I expect a Snakes and Arrows limited edition to be released soon.I thought it had been already, and it just hadn't made it out here to the Middle West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Barchetta Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 To me, Presto is a good "winter album". I don't know how many besides me associate albums with seasons (maybe it's the release date, I don't know), but it's rather gloomy. That's not saying I don't like it...AFTK, Power Windows, and A Farewell to Kings kinda fit that category, as well. Signals, Moving Pictures, P/G...summertime all the way, baby! Wait...what were we talking about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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