Rick N. Backer Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 90125 does not suck. That was my gateway. Without it I may not even have become a Rush fan. Its a solid to great album no matter who's name graces the front of it. Just like Drama. Owner of a lonely heart was my first yes song. thank god my cousin intervened when i brought it up with Close to the Edge. i was about to write yes off as a shitty shitty pop group. Mick I fell in love with 90125 immediately. And it remains my favorite Yes album because it is, by far, their heaviest album. Always thought Big Generator was heavier. I'm going to have to give that one a listen today, now that you say that. Imo its underrated. Especially in comparison with everything up until Keys. And then everything after that. I think you're right. Both good albums though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I like 90125 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) I'm actually grateful for the RRHoF existing at this moment in time. I don't think we'd ever see Jon & Rick performing with Yes again were it not for the induction. Geddy's the icing on the cake. Edited April 11, 2017 by Mr. Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) http://youtu.be/l_mDUCXp8HE :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: (the uploader of this vid's the crazy one of course. not Jon) Edited April 11, 2017 by Mr. Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Also I tend to buy remaster because normally...that just so happens to be the first edition I buy. Love that you think you have me all figured out. Genius. Don't be silly. You're far too unique and eclectic to possibly be a "type." How could anyone hope to figure out so complex and sophisticated a person? That is what you're going for, no? Honestly over this now. If you want to mock me fine. I am ok with that. You clearly don't know me at all so...have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Geez. and people wonder why some people stop posting. it's probably cause of shitty reactions like this to people who DARE have a different view. I mean wow. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Geez. and people wonder why some people stop posting. it's probably cause of shitty reactions like this to people who DARE have a different view. I mean wow. Mick I know but I don't mind. Just disappointed you can't dislike a popular album without being treated like you're a poser or as someone trying to be edgy. But oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Geez. and people wonder why some people stop posting. it's probably cause of shitty reactions like this to people who DARE have a different view. I mean wow. Mick I know but I don't mind. Just disappointed you can't dislike a popular album without being treated like you're a poser or as someone trying to be edgy. But oh well. Screw that. that album STILL SUCKS in my view. big time. but i won't hate on anyone that likes it. Have a blast with it i say, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Geez. and people wonder why some people stop posting. it's probably cause of shitty reactions like this to people who DARE have a different view. I mean wow. Mick I know but I don't mind. Just disappointed you can't dislike a popular album without being treated like you're a poser or as someone trying to be edgy. But oh well. Screw that. that album STILL SUCKS in my view. big time. but i won't hate on anyone that likes it. Have a blast with it i say, lol Mick It really doesn't bother me haha. After all I started this thread with joy at discovering a band whose music I love and I have no qualms sharing my interests. I've noticed one's of a certain age don't like having younger ones dislike the albums that they perceive defined their generation. I mean...im glad it was a hit but that isn't what attracted me to Yes. I've noticed a lot seem to think I try to be edgy or try to hard...odd really as I post the same as always and I listen to a lot of mainstream music this forum frowns upon. They should take a look at my Facebook page...only edgy if you think cats are the devil's spawn lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Slipperman Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I get it... I'm not down with a lot of prog-metal and it seems that a lot of people here dig that stuff. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Slipperman Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) For those brand new to Yes I recommend these in this order: Close to the Edge, Fragile, The Yes album, Going for the One, Relayer and then Drama. After that Tales from Topographic Oceans and 90125. If you like those then just go and buy the rest just don't expect them to be as good. They were a bit of a different animal in the eighties and later but still had plenty of good moments. Also, I'm glad to see them finally inducted into the Rock and ROll Hall of fame with the help of Geddy and Alex! I think someone should start with 90125. You always open with your best shot. Your right. You should start with the best which is why I suggested starting with Close to the Edge which is regarded by most Yes fans as their best. 90125 is a good pop rock album but not a very good representation of what Yes was all about. Anyone who is really into the band understands that. Like it or not that WAS Yes in the 1980s. Much like Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows and Hold Your Fire WAS Rush in the 1980s. Since then of course both Rush and Yes circled back to the '70 in various degrees in recent times but that doesn't make those other albums any less valid in my opinion. Just like Rush, Yes has a lot of music different music to explore. Yeah but 90215 was only a Yes album in name. It was totally gonna be a Cinema album or whatever the hell they were calling themselves. And it sucks. It is fondly remembered by old men but it isn't the album that wins over new fans If they called it Cinema, the band's profile would be exponentially less than it is now and many people likely would never have discovered them. Instead they sold out the name Yes to make their new pop career higher profile, won over the teenyboppers and lo and behold, the age of Cinema came to end and Yes entered the mediaeval period of their careers. Lasted a long long time, left a massive mark on the bands legacy, but took apart the beauty of the classical era before it and took the band on a journey they never recovered from. Just look at their modern era. Rubbish. For one, I know several younger Yes fans who dig the Rabin era material, and I've seen plenty of younger music fans on various message boards over the years dig 90125 and/or the other Rabin albums. Two, it wasn't selling out. Once Jon Anderson came on board, four of the five members were from the classic Yes era, so it only made sense to call it Yes. If not for the 80s, Yes likely would have faded into nothing and became known as just another 70s band that was great for a short spell, fell apart and was never heard from again. I think had there career faded it would have been more respectable. I bet they don't agree. But I also bet they appreciate this type of fan. You guys buy the remasters for the new liner notes. No I buy the remasters because they sound better than the initial CD pressings. Sorry you enjoy shite eighties MoR to great, mind bending prog. Normally that's thrown in my face but I'm happy to laugh at you instead. Glad you find it heavy. Lunacy. What a farce. Wow. I love 90125 and although I was a teenager in the 80s, I don't think I fit the "profile". Moreover, most remasters (including the last few rounds of Yes) sound like absolute rubbish. Way too pumped up, loss of dynamic range. LOUD, IN YOUR FACE. I call bullshit. Music is supposed to be dynamic. Especially Yes, and that includes the 80s stuff. Edited April 11, 2017 by Mystic Slipperman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Slipperman Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Last night at the R&RHOF Geddy said this is the song that turned him on to Yes. The bass lines are very cool. http://youtu.be/A_NrBG0FUWA Alex mentioned Owner Of A Lonely Heart, more than once. Time And A Word is an awesome album. People dismiss it because Steve Howe didn't join the band yet. Early Yes (more the first album though) is a bit like early Pink Floyd with the psychedelic influence. Those first 2 albums are really underrated. Banks was a great guitarist. You can already hear the template for what would follow in the 70s on these albums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Geez. and people wonder why some people stop posting. it's probably cause of shitty reactions like this to people who DARE have a different view. I mean wow. Mick Well, these things usually start the same way on a message board. Someone posts an opinion. You have a choice if you don't share it. You can post that you disagree, and tell them why. Or you can say they're a a p*ssy for holding that opinion. If you choose the latter, you really can't fairly claim to be too surprised at where the conversation is likely to go. Or complain about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rushman14 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 The new Steven Wilson remix of Tales is a must have. http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/more-details-on-sws-tales-from-topographic-oceans-remix/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Slipperman Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 The new Steven Wilson remix of Tales is a must have. http://stevenwilsonh...c-oceans-remix/ This is the first Wilson remix I have bought so far. Loving it, and I definitely want to check out some of the others (not just Yes...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The K Man Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Geez. and people wonder why some people stop posting. it's probably cause of shitty reactions like this to people who DARE have a different view. I mean wow. Mick Having a different view is just fine by me. I love a good music discussion. But it's hard to have a real discussion with someone who resorts to calling people pussies just cause they like a CD he doesn't. It's like being in high school. Edited April 11, 2017 by The K Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) I like 90125. I think the hate for that album is more an anti-80s, anti-Rabin hangup more than anything. Howe was amazing, but Rabin was too in his own right. Two different styles. But both big contributors to the Yes library. I had the benefit of growing up in the 1980s and knowing only that era for a long time. Much like Genesis, it wasn't until later that I went back and discovered the 70s stuff by both of those bands and realized there was a whole other side that was ripe for exploring and I learned to appreciate the different layers of each period of those groups. Makes for more interesting listening. Edited April 12, 2017 by Wil1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwillchooseFreeWill Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 All I remember is listening to Fragile and Tales from Topographic Oceans during grad school. Some of my favourite memories of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Who out of you YES fans owns a YES t-shirt? :smoke: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Who out of you YES fans owns a YES t-shirt? :smoke: :ebert: Me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Who out of you YES fans owns a YES t-shirt? :smoke: :ebert: Me!Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Who out of you YES fans owns a YES t-shirt? :smoke: :ebert: Me!Which one? Not a "vintage" shirt unfortunately but hell, its still YES. Got it when I saw them perform with Styx a few years back. When Benoit David was singing with them. Basically the Drama line up. I will take a picture of it when I get home and post it. Until then, would you settle for me wearing a RUSH shirt? Edited April 12, 2017 by Wil1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Here ya go Treeduck ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus 2112 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 That shirt is amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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