Aerosmith vs Kiss

[nappy2112]

Edited October 23, 2012 by nappy2112

[treeduck]

It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff...

 

And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's...

[Rick N. Backer]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:07 PM)

It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff... And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's...

Duck, are you going to say, with a straight face, that Destroyer or Love Gun or RARO, probably the best Kiss studio albums, belong in the same coversation with Toys in the Attic or Rocks or Get Your Wings? I enjoy Kiss too, but let's not get crazy here.

 

 

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:31 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:07 PM) It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff... And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's... Duck, are you going to say, with a straight face, that Destroyer or Love Gun or RARO, probably the best Kiss studio albums, belong in the same coversation with Toys in the Attic or Rocks or Get Your Wings? I enjoy Kiss too, but let's not get crazy here. They do belong in the same conversation. I like both sets of albums and I wouldn't like to say which is better.   But after 1979 who wins?   Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up beat any 80s Aerosmith output on their own. Revenge is better than any 90s Aerosmith album. And 21st century Aerosmith is beyond a joke...don't even mention it...

[Presto-digitation]

Yes, the new Kiss album gives a beat down to new Aerosmith. Fact.

 

In their glory years I think they're fairly competetive, actually. I'm not sure if Kiss has a Dream On degree of classic, true enough, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's no contest either. I think Kiss was striving for more variety than Aerosmith (one reason I rank Kiss higher than AC/DC on the whole). There's no Destroyer or Elder equivalent in A-smith's catalogue. The most they strive to be is a pop band after Done With Mirrors and they do a good job of it at times. Other times, like Kiss, Aero seems a bit uninspired. But I appreciate the fact that Kiss stretched out and went for some things in their career.

 

The Elder gets shit on by some Kiss fans who like their rock to roll over, but it gets a ton of praise by others as well. Kiss did that sound, they did a pretty grungy record with Carnival Of Souls, they tackled their own brand of "metal" with Creatures Of The Night, Lick It Up and Revenge...went down the pop-rock alley with Unmasked and Crazy Nights.

 

Kiss has certainly taken more risks than Aerosmith.

Edited October 23, 2012 by Presto-digitation

[micgtr71]

I've said it before....Joe Perry is a fine guitarists who can hold his own with any weekend warrior in any small town in America. He is sloppy. Brad Whitford is the guitar powerhouse in Aerosmith.

[Rick N. Backer]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:41 PM)

QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:07 PM) It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff... And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's... Duck, are you going to say, with a straight face, that Destroyer or Love Gun or RARO, probably the best Kiss studio albums, belong in the same coversation with Toys in the Attic or Rocks or Get Your Wings? I enjoy Kiss too, but let's not get crazy here. They do belong in the same conversation. I like both sets of albums and I wouldn't like to say which is better.   But after 1979 who wins?   Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up beat any 80s Aerosmith output on their own. Revenge is better than any 90s Aerosmith album. And 21st century Aerosmith is beyond a joke...don't even mention it... Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up are not better than Rock in A Hard Place or Done With Mirrors. Fact Duck. Look it up.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:54 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:41 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:07 PM) It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff... And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's... Duck, are you going to say, with a straight face, that Destroyer or Love Gun or RARO, probably the best Kiss studio albums, belong in the same coversation with Toys in the Attic or Rocks or Get Your Wings? I enjoy Kiss too, but let's not get crazy here. They do belong in the same conversation. I like both sets of albums and I wouldn't like to say which is better.   But after 1979 who wins?   Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up beat any 80s Aerosmith output on their own. Revenge is better than any 90s Aerosmith album. And 21st century Aerosmith is beyond a joke...don't even mention it... Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up are not better than Rock in A Hard Place or Done With Mirrors. Fact Duck. Look it up.   I'm afraid they are. Creatures and Lick it Up are excellent. They always kick ass. Meanwhile I can't listen to Done with Mirrors. I bought that album in 1985 after rave reviews in Kerrang and try as I might I just couldn't get into it. I gave it many spins, I hate buying albums that suck, but In the end though I had to accept the fact that it did. So I sold it for 25p down at the market record stand. I was glad to get anything for it and I've never missed it. Rock in a Hard Place is pretty solid but can't match Creatures or Lick it Up for a single second...

[Rick N. Backer]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 06:10 PM)

QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:54 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:41 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:07 PM) It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff... And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's... Duck, are you going to say, with a straight face, that Destroyer or Love Gun or RARO, probably the best Kiss studio albums, belong in the same coversation with Toys in the Attic or Rocks or Get Your Wings? I enjoy Kiss too, but let's not get crazy here. They do belong in the same conversation. I like both sets of albums and I wouldn't like to say which is better.   But after 1979 who wins?   Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up beat any 80s Aerosmith output on their own. Revenge is better than any 90s Aerosmith album. And 21st century Aerosmith is beyond a joke...don't even mention it... Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up are not better than Rock in A Hard Place or Done With Mirrors. Fact Duck. Look it up.   I'm afraid they are. Creatures and Lick it Up are excellent. They always kick ass. Meanwhile I can't listen to Done with Mirrors. I bought that album in 1985 after rave reviews in Kerrang and try as I might I just couldn't get into it. I gave it many spins, I hate buying albums that suck, but In the end though I had to accept the fact that it did. So I sold it for 25p down at the market record stand. I was glad to get anything for it and I've never missed it. Rock in a Hard Place is pretty solid but can't match Creatures or Lick it Up for a single second...   Lightning Strikes is better than any song on COTN or LIU. As is Rock in A Hard Place (Cheshire Cat).   I'm no Aerosmith rump swab (I can't listen to anything released after Pump and agree that it's horrible) but I do love DWM. Darkness is better than anything on COTN or LIU too, now that I think about it.   BTW, Joey Kramer and Tom Hamilton blow doors on Peter and Gene.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 05:18 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 06:10 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:54 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:41 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2012, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 23 2012, 05:07 PM) It's a bit late in the day for a KISS v Aerosmith rivalry. That been said recent KISS stuff crushes recent Aerosmith stuff... And for the record, Ace, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick, Mark St John, Tommy Thayer all blow Joe Perry out of the water. In fact Paul Stanley's playing probably beats Perry's... Duck, are you going to say, with a straight face, that Destroyer or Love Gun or RARO, probably the best Kiss studio albums, belong in the same coversation with Toys in the Attic or Rocks or Get Your Wings? I enjoy Kiss too, but let's not get crazy here. They do belong in the same conversation. I like both sets of albums and I wouldn't like to say which is better.   But after 1979 who wins?   Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up beat any 80s Aerosmith output on their own. Revenge is better than any 90s Aerosmith album. And 21st century Aerosmith is beyond a joke...don't even mention it... Creatures of the Night and Lick it Up are not better than Rock in A Hard Place or Done With Mirrors. Fact Duck. Look it up.   I'm afraid they are. Creatures and Lick it Up are excellent. They always kick ass. Meanwhile I can't listen to Done with Mirrors. I bought that album in 1985 after rave reviews in Kerrang and try as I might I just couldn't get into it. I gave it many spins, I hate buying albums that suck, but In the end though I had to accept the fact that it did. So I sold it for 25p down at the market record stand. I was glad to get anything for it and I've never missed it. Rock in a Hard Place is pretty solid but can't match Creatures or Lick it Up for a single second...   Lightning Strikes is better than any song on COTN or LIU. As is Rock in A Hard Place (Cheshire Cat).   I'm no Aerosmith rump swab (I can't listen to anything released after Pump and agree that it's horrible) but I do love DWM. Darkness is better than anything on COTN or LIU too, now that I think about it.   BTW, Joey Kramer and Tom Hamilton blow doors on Peter and Gene. That's all according to you though, I've given my take...

[Steevo]

Edited October 23, 2012 by Steevo

[treeduck]

It's all heavy metal anyway!

 

[Steevo]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 24 2012, 12:27 PM)

It's all heavy metal anyway!

Splitting hairs...

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Steevo @ Oct 23 2012, 06:29 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 24 2012, 12:27 PM) It's all heavy metal anyway! Splitting hairs... And there's lots to split and lots of split ends!

[rushgoober]

KISS >>>>>> Aerosmith

 

It's not even close. I always thought Aerosmith had 2 or 3 really good big hits, but they've always been pretty meh to me.

 

Kiss has tons of great songs. :

[Rick N. Backer]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 23 2012, 07:59 PM)

KISS >>>>>> Aerosmith It's not even close.  I always thought Aerosmith had 2 or 3 really good big hits, but they've always been pretty meh to me. Kiss has tons of great songs. :

Toys in the Attic. That album alone blows away anything Kiss has ever done. You can throw a Kiss greatest hits package into the mix and Toys would still kick its ass.

[The Cat 3]

I just saw Aerosmith live in July and KISS in September.

 

While KISS had a better show, Aerosmith was much better live musically.

 

That is saying alot, as most folks here know how much I love KISS.

 

I'm enjoying "Monster" but am also looking forward to 06 November when the new Aerosmith is released.

[ReRushed]

[The Cat 3]

[bathory]

KISS have more good albums, but Aerosmith has an album that beats every KISS album. who cares though

[Bastille Dave]

[greg2112]

QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Oct 23 2012, 04:42 PM)

Yes, the new Kiss album gives a beat down to new Aerosmith. Fact. In their glory years I think they're fairly competetive, actually. I'm not sure if Kiss has a Dream On degree of classic, true enough, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's no contest either. I think Kiss was striving for more variety than Aerosmith (one reason I rank Kiss higher than AC/DC on the whole). There's no Destroyer or Elder equivalent in A-smith's catalogue. The most they strive to be is a pop band after Done With Mirrors and they do a good job of it at times. Other times, like Kiss, Aero seems a bit uninspired. But I appreciate the fact that Kiss stretched out and went for some things in their career. The Elder gets shit on by some Kiss fans who like their rock to roll over, but it gets a ton of praise by others as well. Kiss did that sound, they did a pretty grungy record with Carnival Of Souls, they tackled their own brand of "metal" with Creatures Of The Night, Lick It Up and Revenge...went down the pop-rock alley with Unmasked and Crazy Nights. Kiss has certainly taken more risks than Aerosmith.

Well said... and for the record, I love Unmasked

[t2s]

Aerosmith has 2 good songs, Kiss has 0.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (greg2112 @ Oct 23 2012, 10:00 PM)

QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Oct 23 2012, 04:42 PM) Yes, the new Kiss album gives a beat down to new Aerosmith.  Fact. In their glory years I think they're fairly competetive, actually.  I'm not sure if Kiss has a Dream On degree of classic, true enough, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's no contest either.  I think Kiss was striving for more variety than Aerosmith (one reason I rank Kiss higher than AC/DC on the whole).  There's no Destroyer or Elder equivalent in A-smith's catalogue.  The most they strive to be is a pop band after Done With Mirrors and they do a good job of it at times.  Other times, like Kiss, Aero seems a bit uninspired.  But I appreciate the fact that Kiss stretched out and went for some things in their career.  The Elder gets shit on by some Kiss fans who like their rock to roll over, but it gets a ton of praise by others as well.  Kiss did that sound, they did a pretty grungy record with Carnival Of Souls, they tackled their own brand of "metal" with Creatures Of The Night, Lick It Up and Revenge...went down the pop-rock alley with Unmasked and Crazy Nights.  Kiss has certainly taken more risks than Aerosmith. Well said... and for the record, I love Unmasked Yeah Unmasked is a VASTLY underrated album. It rocks!

[Na na na]

Love Kiss 1974 - 1980

Don`t like Aerosmith at all...