eshine Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 And yes, it deserves it's own thread. The guy really nails it. Critics, haters and cynics be warned - this review will give you a nosebleed. allmusic.com Clockwork Angels review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I like the album heaps but don't like the actual writing style of this review. Sure it's positive but I can still dislike it for being "typical" in how it's worded. What can I say? Whether critics like an album or not, most of them sound exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYM86 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Really not understanding what's so special about this review Edited August 2, 2012 by NYM86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Within 77 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (NYM86 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:37 PM) Really not understanding what's so special about this review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshine Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 "Halo Effect" is destined to be among the band's classic power ballads with a dramatic middle and end. I missed something here quoting this, halo effect is more a mediocre ballad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshine Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (RUDT @ Aug 2 2012, 04:02 AM) "Halo Effect" is destined to be among the band's classic power ballads with a dramatic middle and end. I missed something here quoting this, halo effect is more a mediocre ballad. I completely disagree. I think It's up there with Tears, Madrigal and Different Strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (Enemy Within 77 @ Aug 2 2012, 01:58 AM) QUOTE (NYM86 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:37 PM) Really not understanding what's so special about this review Me either...Seems so similar to all the rest of the reviews I've read I didn't even bother to finsh it...but thanks for sharing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilb1972 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE "Halo Effect" is destined to be among the band's classic power ballads with a dramatic middle and end. I missed something here quoting this, halo effect is more a mediocre ballad. I completely disagree. I think It's up there with Tears, Madrigal and Different Strings. And those three songs are among the band's classic power ballads?? I love Halo Effect, and Tears, and Different Strings, but to be honest, as stated, they are average Rush tracks. When I think classic power ballads by Rush, I think Closer to the Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM) It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Yeah you're very wrong. Mind blowing chops? Come on now. Any very skilled bassist will tell you right now that he's doing ANYTHING difficult on this album. He just does some scale runs here and there. He's not doing the kinds of complex runs he used to do. John Myung has MIND BLOWING chops. Geddy has never even been remotely close to that complex of a bassist. So yeah, this reviewer IS a fanboy, like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 01:37 PM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM) It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Yeah you're very wrong. Mind blowing chops? Come on now. Any very skilled bassist will tell you right now that he's doing ANYTHING difficult on this album. He just does some scale runs here and there. He's not doing the kinds of complex runs he used to do. John Myung has MIND BLOWING chops. Geddy has never even been remotely close to that complex of a bassist. So yeah, this reviewer IS a fanboy, like you. DT obsessed much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianice Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM) It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Yeah you're very wrong. Mind blowing chops? Come on now. Any very skilled bassist will tell you right now that he's doing ANYTHING difficult on this album. He just does some scale runs here and there. He's not doing the kinds of complex runs he used to do. John Myung has MIND BLOWING chops. Geddy has never even been remotely close to that complex of a bassist. So yeah, this reviewer IS a fanboy, like you. and you are still a miserable little turd, who knows nothing about playing bass guitar----move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Nothing I haven't read here among you guys I'm kidding. Just a normal positive review. Which is always good to see, no matter what my view is Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 1 2012, 10:35 PM) And yes, it deserves it's own thread. The guy really nails it. Critics, haters and cynics be warned - this review will give you a nosebleed. Quote: "The Garden" is an intricate seven-minute ballad with numerous odd angles and labyrinthine sonic corridors. That is mind-blowing. It's also a really great song. I'll take the rabbi's review anyday: while The Garden, in all its orchestral glory, will move people to tears of joy, melancholy, and a full autumnal moment. It is such a departure for the band, and is certainly another addition of greatness in the pantheon of Rush music. Hey, GeminiRising79--where's yours??? You can get it on Amazon for .99 cents Edited August 2, 2012 by Tombstone Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Tombstone Mountain @ Aug 2 2012, 07:14 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 1 2012, 10:35 PM) And yes, it deserves it's own thread. The guy really nails it. Critics, haters and cynics be warned - this review will give you a nosebleed. Quote: "The Garden" is an intricate seven-minute ballad with numerous odd angles and labyrinthine sonic corridors. That is mind-blowing. It's also a really great song. I'll take the rabbi's review anyday: while The Garden, in all its orchestral glory, will move people to tears of joy, melancholy, and a full autumnal moment. It is such a departure for the band, and is certainly another addition of greatness in the pantheon of Rush music. I was just going to post something similar. He makes it sound like The Garden is great because it's a progressive rock masterpiece or because of its unusual and complex composition. The song is great because of it's emotional intensity and lyrically it's deep and profound. Edited August 2, 2012 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush-O-Matic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (canadianice @ Aug 2 2012, 08:22 AM)QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM)liked a review and defended it responded with a bunch more nonsense and you are still a miserable little turd, who knows nothing about playing bass guitar----move along. He may not know much about playing bass, but boy can he sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianice Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ Aug 2 2012, 09:26 AM) QUOTE (canadianice @ Aug 2 2012, 08:22 AM)QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM)liked a review and defended it responded with a bunch more nonsense and you are still a miserable little turd, who knows nothing about playing bass guitar----move along. He may not know much about playing bass, but boy can he sing! Like Tiny Tim on Helium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaveMyThingAlone Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM) It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Geddy has never even been remotely close to that complex of a bassist. Ok, up until now you managed to express your opinions in a way that, while certainly consistently negative, was also believable., but when you start dissing Geddy as never being that complex a bassist, then I have to question your agenda I agree that the review is a little over the top and "fanboyish". However, I am personally a big fan of Halo Effect and think it's a keeper, and I'm not usually a fan of their "ballads" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshine Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM) It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Yeah you're very wrong. Mind blowing chops? Come on now. Any very skilled bassist will tell you right now that he's doing ANYTHING difficult on this album. He just does some scale runs here and there. He's not doing the kinds of complex runs he used to do. John Myung has MIND BLOWING chops. Geddy has never even been remotely close to that complex of a bassist. So yeah, this reviewer IS a fanboy, like you. You seem particularly jealous of Geddy Lee - like you have some weird agism complex. You always talk about how old he is. Maybe it's because you cant handle the fact that at twice your age he posseses skill you will never, ever have in your wildest dreams. You talk a big game, but have no "chops" of your own to speak of, save for your laughable cell phone whining. Man up and show us some more of your own mind blowing chops. And Geddy can write circles around the pretentious and showy John Myung. His style is silly and often unlistenable, kind of like your posts. You have a sterile and uninteresting taste in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshine Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ Aug 2 2012, 09:26 AM) QUOTE (canadianice @ Aug 2 2012, 08:22 AM)QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM)liked a review and defended it responded with a bunch more nonsense and you are still a miserable little turd, who knows nothing about playing bass guitar----move along. He may not know much about playing bass, but boy can he sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Within 77 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 11:10 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Aug 2 2012, 07:37 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 02:50 AM) It is succinct. The guy sounds like a Rush fan but not a fanboy. His comments are right on the mark. QUOTE Geddy Lee's bass is mixed further up-front than it has been in some time -- which makes his mind-blowing chops resound: there are amazing pizzicatos interspersed in driving hard rock fills and edgy, off-kilter funk riffs. His voice is more nuanced and more emotionally expressive. QUOTE Alex Lifeson's acoustic guitars have an established place here, but his electric axes roar over them throughout. QUOTE Peart's drumming is the catalyst: his technical mastery makes his playing sound purely instinctive. CA is full of dynamic surprises I've read all the reviews of this album, but this one seemed so immediate to me - and unbiased. It hit all the right buttons for me. Yeah you're very wrong. Mind blowing chops? Come on now. Any very skilled bassist will tell you right now that he's doing ANYTHING difficult on this album. He just does some scale runs here and there. He's not doing the kinds of complex runs he used to do. John Myung has MIND BLOWING chops. Geddy has never even been remotely close to that complex of a bassist. So yeah, this reviewer IS a fanboy, like you. You seem particularly jealous of Geddy Lee - like you have some weird agism complex. You always talk about how old he is. Maybe it's because you cant handle the fact that at twice your age he posseses skill you will never, ever have in your wildest dreams. You talk a big game, but have no "chops" of your own to speak of, save for your laughable cell phone whining. Man up and show us some more of your own mind blowing chops. And Geddy can write circles around the pretentious and showy John Myung. His style is silly and often unlistenable, kind of like your posts. You have a sterile and uninteresting taste in music. And Geddy doesn't look like a little Asian girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 04:23 AM) QUOTE (RUDT @ Aug 2 2012, 04:02 AM) "Halo Effect" is destined to be among the band's classic power ballads with a dramatic middle and end. I missed something here quoting this, halo effect is more a mediocre ballad. I completely disagree. I think It's up there with Tears, Madrigal and Different Strings. Which are all very, very good songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 2 2012, 04:23 AM) QUOTE (RUDT @ Aug 2 2012, 04:02 AM) "Halo Effect" is destined to be among the band's classic power ballads with a dramatic middle and end. I missed something here quoting this, halo effect is more a mediocre ballad. I completely disagree. I think It's up there with Tears, Madrigal and Different Strings. obviously the garden is much longer than those 3 but putting aside the lyrics, the garden drags along musically and vocally for me. i repeat, for me. the other 3 flow along effortlessly and just easy to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priest of Syrinx Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (eshine @ Aug 1 2012, 10:35 PM) And yes, it deserves it's own thread. The guy really nails it. Critics, haters and cynics be warned - this review will give you a nosebleed. allmusic.com Clockwork Angels review. Same 4/5 rating they gave S&A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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