Majestyk Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 More specifically from Signals to Roll The Bones. I think any die-hard Heavy Metal listener would say, "NO". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Dudad Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I never heard Rush referred to as "heavy metal"...especially during that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-D-RocK- Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'd have to agree, but I'd also add most of the "metal" from that period wouldn't be considered metal by today's standards, save for a few bands like Maiden, Priest, Sabbath and a handful of up and coming speedmetal bands, i.e. Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax etc., who as we know, would change the metal scene forever. 1970's Rush might be considered "heavy metal' back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think saying Heavy Metal and Rush together stopped with Moving Pictures . I also think the 2 new songs have a H.M. vibe , first time in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I've heard about them described as metal, but I honestly don't understand the meaning; rock - yes, prog rock - yes, but 'metal'? Can someone enlighten me, please? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestyk Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE I also think the 2 new songs have a H.M. vibe , first time in a long time. I think the two new songs are every bit as heavy sounding as most of the tracks in Snakes and Arrows. To me, Counterparts, VT and S&A were (at least) a return to Hard Rock with some tracks, from each album, borderline metal... As for Signals to Roll the Bones, I'm not sure how I would label their music. Maybe "Pop/Rock". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestyk Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) QUOTE 'metal'? Can someone enlighten me, please? Thanks. I don't think it's tough to say that Rush was DEFINITELY a Heavy Metal band up until '75. From '76 to '79 they would have probably also been referred to as Metal, back in the day. (Did anyone use the term Prog-Metal back then? Umm...No). BTW, I have an audio clip of an interview with Alex Lifeson, back in the early 80's, (Moving Pictures era) and he is asked if the band is Heavy Metal. He begrudgingly replied that they were. "Hum...Ah...Yeah, I guess you'd call us Heavy Metal"...Something like that. Edited October 5, 2011 by Majestyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (metaldad @ Oct 5 2011, 11:01 AM) I think saying Heavy Metal and Rush together stopped with Moving Pictures . I also think the 2 new songs have a H.M. vibe , first time in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Rush WERE heavy metal up to 1981. They appeared in all the metal magazines of the 70s/early 80s, kids who liked metal bands generally liked Rush and considered them a metal band too. Then with Signals they started going a little new wavey pop in style. I think they brought back the METAL a little bit with Counterparts and have been relatively metallic since then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Its like calling Led Zeppelin heavy metal in the early 70's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Union 5-3992 @ Oct 5 2011, 05:28 PM) Its like calling Led Zeppelin heavy metal in the early 70's Nah , Zep were a Blues band . Rush Were Metal and they might be agian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'll agree with the majority here and say they were metal up to 1981. Though in my opinion, they played a lighter type of metal. It wasn't something as in your face as, say, Van Halen or Judas Priest were playing at the time. Definitely progressive though. I like the style they've had since T4E, because I can't listen to Counterparts as a "metal" album. I agree that they were heavier around that time though, but very far short of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go2wrk@95974 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 RUSH was only a prog band from 1977-1980,imo. The closest RUSH got to heavy-metal, was the 1st couple years,and that was when they were establishing their own sound,after being a Zep-sounding band, with the 1st record.The song "In The End " is a good example of a heavy-metal/hard rockin RUSH song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'd say from Rush-2112 they were a 'metal' band but that's it. Snakes and Arrows and the CA singles are definitely prog-metal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I know of no one that thought they were heavy metal during the 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jane- Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I would not say that they were Heavy Metal in 80's In fact when Signals came out I kinda thought they sold out. It took about a year for the album to grow on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota2112 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Bytor on ATWAS sounds metal to me 80s? Negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (The Mighty Dudad @ Oct 5 2011, 09:40 AM) I never heard Rush referred to as "heavy metal"...especially during that period. I certainly have seen the label attached to Rush, even in an album review for Grace Under Pressure, of all albums! Really? The keyboards, the pop sound, the Flock of Seagulls haircuts and skinny ties...? I couldn't imagine what Circus readers thought of Rush, these fluffy New Wave photos next to pictures of Rob Halford and Glenn Tipton in leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Time Stand Still is so metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestyk Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) QUOTE Its like calling Led Zeppelin heavy metal in the early 70's I would say Zeppelin were Heavy Metal (as metal as metal could be in that early time) up until Zep II. After that, they were "Hard Rock", although I don't think that term existed then. I was recently watching their 1970 Royal Albert Hall concert and was blown away by how loud they were, compared to concerts after '71. They were about on par with Sabbath. Anyway, back to Rush...If anyone wants to hear the clip where Alex says Rush were Heavy Metal (in '81 I believe) it's posted here. These are very raw sounding clips from cassette. I did not produce or post these. They were posted by another forum member (Apollo), in this thread: http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?showtopic=60577 I can't remember which clip it is, I think it's the second one: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8F0W3Z5R http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XXFHYD6E QUOTE Time Stand Still is so metal. Hold Your Fire was the album that turned me away from Rush, until Counterparts. Edited October 6, 2011 by Majestyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (treeduck @ Oct 5 2011, 03:13 PM) Rush WERE heavy metal up to 1981. They appeared in all the metal magazines of the 70s/early 80s, kids who liked metal bands generally liked Rush and considered them a metal band too. Then with Signals they started going a little new wavey pop in style. I think they brought back the METAL a little bit with Counterparts and have been relatively metallic since then... Well, they were in the English magazines at least. Kerrang sure loved them. I don't think this applied so much in the States. As far as I'm concerned, they were never really considered metal by most people, and more specifically I never considered them metal. They had enough elements that metal fans loved the band, but they were definitely set apart from metal with far more intelligent lyrics (sorry if I offend), and they never really did crunching riffs just for the sake of crunching riffs. They were kind of accidentally metal-like, or metal-friendly, or metal-adjacent, if you will, but full-on metal? The argument could possibly be made for the first album, and for some songs on CP, but beyond that, not really. Despite the insistence of some, Rush is just NOT a metal band. Rush is a hard rock band. Edited October 6, 2011 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingUnlimited Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Presto is Hare Metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilb1972 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I have always felt I was more accurately a Hard Rock musician. -Geddy Lee I think we're quite unique in that we do have our own sound and approach and we don't really care what's going on elsewhere... we've never wanted to be part of another trend or movement. -Alex Lifeson --from BrainyQuote.com QUOTE Presto is Hare Metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngoldman Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I started listening to them around 1978, (and actually saw them shortly thereafter). Even then, they were, for lack of a better word, heavy, but also very, well, progressive. Too much craft there to label it "Heavy Metal", imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 6 2011, 12:21 AM) Well, they were in the English magazines at least. Kerrang sure loved them. I don't think this applied so much in the States. They were in Every Hard Rock /Metal mag in the states Creem Hit Parader Circus Rip They Were Metal at one point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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