RUSHHEAD666 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 06:15 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 5 2011, 07:57 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:29 PM) QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:15 PM) QUOTE (Tony R @ Apr 5 2011, 02:49 PM) QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Apr 5 2011, 10:32 PM) This is where the reviewer loses all credibility and just proves himself to be another a-hole with an opinion. "All told, Tales is as useless a piece of entertainment as was Passion Play, but twice as bad because it's twice as long." Yeah you are correct. Passion Play is as bad as TFTO, and is also way too long. Haha! No need to be pissed about that comment. "Passion Play" is a great record. "The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles!" I think The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles ruins what would have otherwise been a fine album. Put your newly acquired ear plugs in during that section Goobs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Gary prefers "Acquiring The Taste" by Gentle Giant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In A Tidewater Surge Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 What's wrong with Acquiring the Taste? I love that album.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy85 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 It's probably the hardest Yes album to listen to and digest... it's still not fully explored by me. Maturity may have something to do with it- I bought Drama right after buying 90125 in high school and didn't get it. It's not like I didn't have an inquisitive mind back then, I just don't know what the missed connection was. I soon got rid of Drama and ignored Yes until last year. Then I went out and bought about half a dozen of their records. Still busy listening to them (when my wife's not around... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Apr 5 2011, 11:26 PM) Gary prefers "Acquiring The Taste" by Gentle Giant! I thought he didn't like them... The thing about Goober that's surprising is he only appears to have a passing interest in the prog giants, but he likes the obscure stuff that he feels he can personally own that the masses will never sully with their crass and touch = prog snob!! Weirder still he consumes avidly what the masses love in television and film... There's something significant about this contradiction that probably explains the whole enigma that is Rushgoober... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 09:43 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Apr 5 2011, 11:26 PM) Gary prefers "Acquiring The Taste" by Gentle Giant! I thought he didn't like them... The thing about Goober that's surprising is he only appears to have a passing interest in the prog giants, but he likes the obscure stuff that he feels he can personally own that the masses will never sully with their crass and touch = prog snob!! Weirder still he consumes avidly what the masses love in television and film... There's something significant about this contradiction that probably explains the whole enigma that is Rushgoober... Alas, I truly love Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, ELP and all the prog giants, as well as Roxy Music, Camel, Caravan, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graff Generator, PFM, Banco, Le Orme and all the other goodies out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalamander2112 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The Enigma, Rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 6 2011, 12:12 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 09:43 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Apr 5 2011, 11:26 PM) Gary prefers "Acquiring The Taste" by Gentle Giant! I thought he didn't like them... The thing about Goober that's surprising is he only appears to have a passing interest in the prog giants, but he likes the obscure stuff that he feels he can personally own that the masses will never sully with their crass and touch = prog snob!! Weirder still he consumes avidly what the masses love in television and film... There's something significant about this contradiction that probably explains the whole enigma that is Rushgoober... Alas, I truly love Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, ELP and all the prog giants, as well as Roxy Music, Camel, Caravan, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graff Generator, PFM, Banco, Le Orme and all the other goodies out there. You said you couldn't get into Gentle Giant in another thread and you keep going back to them but it ain't happening...so what gives, oh enigma-ish one... And the way you talk about Yes it sounds like you like a bit of this and a bit of that etc not what I expected from the (very) old prog wizard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I can't imagine sitting through one of those songs now, let alone all four. It took a long time, but it finally makes sense ot me what Wakeman said about too much "experimenting" going on in the studio, rather than in rehearsals, and too much padding over all. There are some really strong themes, and really powerful and beautiful passages, but they are held together by the musical equivalent of shoe-string and spit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (In A Tidewater Surge @ Apr 5 2011, 11:39 PM) What's wrong with Acquiring the Taste? I love that album.. It's a flucking good album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 6 2011, 10:51 AM) QUOTE (In A Tidewater Surge @ Apr 5 2011, 11:39 PM) What's wrong with Acquiring the Taste? I love that album.. It's a flucking good album! It's definitely an acquired taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 10:20 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 6 2011, 12:12 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 09:43 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Apr 5 2011, 11:26 PM) Gary prefers "Acquiring The Taste" by Gentle Giant! I thought he didn't like them... The thing about Goober that's surprising is he only appears to have a passing interest in the prog giants, but he likes the obscure stuff that he feels he can personally own that the masses will never sully with their crass and touch = prog snob!! Weirder still he consumes avidly what the masses love in television and film... There's something significant about this contradiction that probably explains the whole enigma that is Rushgoober... Alas, I truly love Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, ELP and all the prog giants, as well as Roxy Music, Camel, Caravan, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graff Generator, PFM, Banco, Le Orme and all the other goodies out there. You said you couldn't get into Gentle Giant in another thread and you keep going back to them but it ain't happening...so what gives, oh enigma-ish one... And the way you talk about Yes it sounds like you like a bit of this and a bit of that etc not what I expected from the (very) old prog wizard... I might have said, which I still maintain, that Gentle Giant (like Van Der Graff Generator) is one of the more difficult groups to get into, and that I'm still getting into them after all this time, but I do think they are a great group. It's just that they take some work. Yes is one of my all time faves. They pretty much didn't make one bad note in the entire 1970's. In fact, on my list of perfect albums, I have SEVEN Yes albums listed, more than any other group (including Rush with six)! Edited April 6, 2011 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (Tony R @ Apr 6 2011, 04:54 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 6 2011, 10:51 AM) QUOTE (In A Tidewater Surge @ Apr 5 2011, 11:39 PM) What's wrong with Acquiring the Taste? I love that album.. It's a flucking good album! It's definitely an acquired taste You're SCARED!! That's all it is, scared to open yourself up to the music and that's why you'll never really get it, because you don't want to open up... Open up your emotions Tony, open them up before it's too late!! You don't want to be running scared all your life do you???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosy Toes Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 TFTO = Shit Sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjtull Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (Tony R @ Apr 5 2011, 04:49 PM) QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Apr 5 2011, 10:32 PM) This is where the reviewer loses all credibility and just proves himself to be another a-hole with an opinion. "All told, Tales is as useless a piece of entertainment as was Passion Play, but twice as bad because it's twice as long." Yeah you are correct. Passion Play is as bad as TFTO, and is also way too long. I hated both APP and TFTO for many years. It was only after careful consideration of both that I learned to appreciate them. I still find parts of TFTO tedious, however there are some really brilliant passages that give me chills when I listen to them. As far as APP goes; I think it's Ian's greatest work. It may not be my favorite Tull album but it's way up there. I never get tired of listening to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I like Tales from Topographic Oceans. But it took a while before I "got it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I arrived at TFTO around 15 or 16 years old, and loved it instantly at that point I had been a Rush fan for 2 or 3 years, and I was most fascinated with Rush's longer songs at the time I was also beginning my long love affair with drawing and graphic design TFTO hit me with the one-two punch of four side-long songs (every one of them longer than Hemispheres!) and Roger Dean's expansive and fantastic gatefold artwork I was hooked - 1,000% all these years later, I readily admit that TFTO contains some less than inspired moments, but because of 'when' I encountered this album, I'll never be objective about it I certainly owe no small part of my love of the ambient genre (Robert Rich, Brian Eno, etc) to TFTO's indulgences - it 'taught' me to appreciate languishing within chords/phrases rather than the incessant 'what's next!what's next!' ADD of typical pop/rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akron162 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I hate this album, but i think it wouldn't be so bad if the songs weren't that long, or at least if they can make more than one sound for the 20 minutes that last all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 6 2011, 05:18 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 10:20 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 6 2011, 12:12 AM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 5 2011, 09:43 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Apr 5 2011, 11:26 PM) Gary prefers "Acquiring The Taste" by Gentle Giant! I thought he didn't like them... The thing about Goober that's surprising is he only appears to have a passing interest in the prog giants, but he likes the obscure stuff that he feels he can personally own that the masses will never sully with their crass and touch = prog snob!! Weirder still he consumes avidly what the masses love in television and film... There's something significant about this contradiction that probably explains the whole enigma that is Rushgoober... Alas, I truly love Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, ELP and all the prog giants, as well as Roxy Music, Camel, Caravan, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graff Generator, PFM, Banco, Le Orme and all the other goodies out there. You said you couldn't get into Gentle Giant in another thread and you keep going back to them but it ain't happening...so what gives, oh enigma-ish one... And the way you talk about Yes it sounds like you like a bit of this and a bit of that etc not what I expected from the (very) old prog wizard... I might have said, which I still maintain, that Gentle Giant (like Van Der Graff Generator) is one of the more difficult groups to get into, and that I'm still getting into them after all this time, but I do think they are a great group. It's just that they take some work. Yes is one of my all time faves. They pretty much didn't make one bad note in the entire 1970's. In fact, on my list of perfect albums, I have SEVEN Yes albums listed, more than any other group (including Rush with six)! That's not good enough Goobs, you're faltering, unsure of yourself, you're having a crisis of prog faith! Your prog lord crown is slipping. I think we need a new Prog Poet Laureate!! It's time for The OWL to take your place, a TRUE prog genius and not an old has-been like yourself!! Renounce your prog status immediately or have it removed by force!! I declare THE OWL as the new Prog Poet Laureate!! Long Live the New King, off with the old man Goober's head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Despite some padding, I love TFTO, but they were on a hiding to nothing after CTTE. No wonder Bill bailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Me too. Big fan of that album now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush! Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I have yet to hear it but I'ma listen to it soon & see for myself what all the fuss is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 QUOTE (Rush! @ Apr 7 2011, 05:44 PM)I have yet to hear it but I'ma listen to it soon & see for myself what all the fuss is about. You've never heard TFTO? Did I mention ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarKid 1880 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 8 2011, 09:27 PM) QUOTE (Rush! @ Apr 7 2011, 05:44 PM)I have yet to hear it but I'ma listen to it soon & see for myself what all the fuss is about. You've never heard TFTO? Did I mention ? Say what? How can you NOT hear about TFTO? Actually, I first listened to the album about a month or so ago, I absolutely love the first two songs, and I'm still getting used to the back half. There is definitely some magic within that album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalamander2112 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 picked it up today on vinyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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