Tinwoodsman Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 9 2011, 11:16 PM) Just remembered how annoying it is to hear the French in "Circumstances". Such transparent filler to balance out the meter. I said pardon? Where the hell do you come from. That is just bitchy troll behavior on your part. Get a life. Pffft. ... and No Quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (Tinwoodsman @ Mar 10 2011, 02:55 PM) QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 9 2011, 11:16 PM) Just remembered how annoying it is to hear the French in "Circumstances". Such transparent filler to balance out the meter. I said pardon? Where the hell do you come from. That is just bitchy troll behavior on your part. Get a life. Pffft. ... and No Quarter. It's all good. Some could say that reading his English is annoying transparent filler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psionic11 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Admit it, greatness often verges on the insane or abnormal. I dare anyone to come up with one Rush song that doesn't have at least some element of cheesiness in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (psionic11 @ Mar 10 2011, 03:44 PM) Admit it, greatness often verges on the insane or abnormal. I dare anyone to come up with one Rush song that doesn't have at least some element of cheesiness in it. La Villa Strangiato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinwoodsman Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Respecting Canadian traditions isn't cheesy. We are a bilingual country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Mar 10 2011, 01:58 AM) QUOTE (psionic11 @ Mar 10 2011, 03:44 PM) Admit it, greatness often verges on the insane or abnormal. I dare anyone to come up with one Rush song that doesn't have at least some element of cheesiness in it. La Villa Strangiato Here Again Working Man Anthem Fly By Night Bastille Day Lakeside Park Something For Nothing A Farewell To Kings Xanadu Cygnus X-1 Both Books (well I guess you could say there is, but the message is so strong it could be put aside ) Circumstances LVS The Spirit Of Radio Freewill Jacob's Ladder Entre Nous Different Strings Natural Science Tom Sawyer Red Barchetta YYZ Limelight The Camera Eye Witch Hunt Vital Signs The Weapon Losing It Afterimage The Enemy Within (Besides the p-p-p-pounding) Between The Wheels Marathon Mystic Rhythms (Sorry Hold Your Fire, nothing for you, except maybe TSS, PM, and Mission, but even then...) The Pass Available Light Dreamline Bravado Ghost Of A Chance Animate Stick It Out Cut To The Chase Leave That Thing Alone Test For Echo Driven Time And Motion Resist Limbo Ceiling Unlimited Ghost Rider Peaceable Kingdom Vapor Trail Secret Touch Earthshine Sweet Miracle Nocturne Freeze (maybe the dururus) Far Cry Armor And Sword Workin' Them Angels Spindrift TMMB The Way The Wind Blows Hope Faithless Malignant Narcissism BU2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 10 2011, 12:16 AM) Just remembered how annoying it is to hear the French in "Circumstances". Such transparent filler to balance out the meter. Actually, that is a quote from a french writer named Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who lived in France during the 19th century. Maybe that will shed some light on it. Edited March 10, 2011 by snowdogged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PariahDog Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Neil's lyrics suck. Rush sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarJetman Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 9 2011, 11:35 PM)I simply don't understand this criticism. Really? Transparent filler? Yeah. It's literally, "The more that things change, the more they stay the same," inserted into the song before... "The more that things change, the more they stay the same." What? The only benefit that this has is that it lengthens that part of the song and fills out the meter. QUOTE (Tinwoodsman @ Mar 9 2011, 11:55 PM)I said pardon? Where the hell do you come from. That is just bitchy troll behavior on your part. Get a life. Pffft. ... and No Quarter. I'm a "bitchy troll" who needs to "get a life" because I don't like one line in one song? QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 09:59 AM) Actually, that is a quote from a french writer named Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who lived in France during the 19th century. Maybe that will shed some light on it. Doesn't change the fact that it's just the French translation of a phrase said before the same phrase in English in order to make the line longer. Edited March 10, 2011 by StellarJetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 10 2011, 12:25 PM) QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 09:59 AM) Actually, that is a quote from a french writer named Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who lived in France during the 19th century. Maybe that will shed some light on it. Doesn't change the fact that it's just "the more things change, the more they stay the same" in French inserted into the same phrase in English in order to make it longer. Wow, I give up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScienceLikeNature Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well, I don't come to this forum often and I don't post often either - obviously - but at least today I learned what the term "straw man argument" means ! I also think over-analyzing is bad for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucsteve667 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 12:29 PM) QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 10 2011, 12:25 PM) QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 09:59 AM) Actually, that is a quote from a french writer named Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who lived in France during the 19th century. Maybe that will shed some light on it. Doesn't change the fact that it's just "the more things change, the more they stay the same" in French inserted into the same phrase in English in order to make it longer. Wow, I give up!!! yeah, and its really stupid when they sing about trees and stuff... trees cant talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnals Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The Colour Of Right lyrics always make me cringe. Er, Color... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) I started on the first page, but too much stopped me from reading too far. I don't like I Think I'm Going Bald and... oh damn, Did Geddy write that? Edited March 12, 2011 by drbirdsong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWriter Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Mar 11 2011, 11:41 PM) I started on the first page, but too much stopped me from reading too far. I don't like I Think I'm Going Bald and... oh damn, Did Geddy write that? Nope. Just checked. Neil definitely wrote those lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadeth Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 QUOTE (ucsteve667 @ Mar 11 2011, 06:06 PM) QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 12:29 PM) QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 10 2011, 12:25 PM) QUOTE (snowdogged @ Mar 10 2011, 09:59 AM) Actually, that is a quote from a french writer named Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who lived in France during the 19th century. Maybe that will shed some light on it. Doesn't change the fact that it's just "the more things change, the more they stay the same" in French inserted into the same phrase in English in order to make it longer. Wow, I give up!!! yeah, and its really stupid when they sing about trees and stuff... trees cant talk haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney_rebel Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Worst is YYZ and Leave that Thing Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Mar 12 2011, 06:20 PM) Worst is YYZ and Leave that Thing Alone. ROFL Iknowrite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaco Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Like a pair of vagabonds who wave between two passing trains Or the glimpse of a woman's smile through a window in the rain I can smell her perfume, I can taste her lips I can feel the voltage from her fingertips Net boy, net girl Send your heartbeat round the world Let your fingers walk and talk And set you free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druid13 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 come on just imagine for a moment... "Panecea...a passion pure" with the dwarves ( think 'Stonehenge' here) " Tee- Hee...wedgies, noogies...pinching each other".... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) I really never had a problem with Going Bald, for the same reason I don't mind the lyrics for Red Lenses (even though I hate that song), it's just kind of a playful break and a very serious band. Only ones I have an issue with are ones that just SOUND stupid, like little effort went into them, like a lot of the counterparts lyrics, Dog Years, stuff like that, or ones that are way too descriptive, like Countdown. Rivendell also makes me cringe because that really sounds like a very young band way too into all that fantasy stuff. It's just not thought provoking at all, which is what Neil is so good at. It's just so corny, even knowing that it wasnt that unusual for prog bands to write about fantasy themes, but something so clearly about lord of the rings just does not work for me. Edited March 17, 2011 by trenken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucsteve667 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 QUOTE (trenken @ Mar 17 2011, 09:16 AM) I really never had a problem with Going Bald, for the same reason I don't mind the lyrics for Red Lenses (even though I hate that song), it's just kind of a playful break and a very serious band. Only ones I have an issue with are ones that just SOUND stupid, like little effort went into them, like a lot of the counterparts lyrics, Dog Years, stuff like that, or ones that are way too descriptive, like Countdown. Rivendell also makes me cringe because that really sounds like a very young band way too into all that fantasy stuff. It's just not thought provoking at all, which is what Neil is so good at. It's just so corny, even knowing that it wasnt that unusual for prog bands to write about fantasy themes, but something so clearly about lord of the rings just does not work for me. I still think Dog years is clever tongue in cheek word play, and Countdown gives me goosebumps. But I have always been a space geek, like them. To see a shuttle launch must be beyond thrilling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (trenken @ Mar 17 2011, 10:16 AM) I really never had a problem with Going Bald, for the same reason I don't mind the lyrics for Red Lenses (even though I hate that song), it's just kind of a playful break and a very serious band. Only ones I have an issue with are ones that just SOUND stupid, like little effort went into them, like a lot of the counterparts lyrics, Dog Years, stuff like that, or ones that are way too descriptive, like Countdown. Rivendell also makes me cringe because that really sounds like a very young band way too into all that fantasy stuff. It's just not thought provoking at all, which is what Neil is so good at. It's just so corny, even knowing that it wasnt that unusual for prog bands to write about fantasy themes, but something so clearly about lord of the rings just does not work for me. I'm not into the fantasy stuff either - the appeal for me, regarding that era of Rush, is almost totally because of the music. There's the occasional clever play on words, but yeah no. I'm not knocking the sci-fi/fantasy fans or their genre, or even Neil's short obsession with it, but it's just never interested me. That doesn't mean they are "terrible" lyrics - it's just the subject matter I find dull. Kinda like Bruce Springsteen's car-themed stuff - not everyone cares. Edited March 17, 2011 by Mara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good,bad,andrush Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 QUOTE (Mara @ Mar 17 2011, 09:22 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Mar 17 2011, 10:16 AM) I really never had a problem with Going Bald, for the same reason I don't mind the lyrics for Red Lenses (even though I hate that song), it's just kind of a playful break and a very serious band. Only ones I have an issue with are ones that just SOUND stupid, like little effort went into them, like a lot of the counterparts lyrics, Dog Years, stuff like that, or ones that are way too descriptive, like Countdown. Rivendell also makes me cringe because that really sounds like a very young band way too into all that fantasy stuff. It's just not thought provoking at all, which is what Neil is so good at. It's just so corny, even knowing that it wasnt that unusual for prog bands to write about fantasy themes, but something so clearly about lord of the rings just does not work for me. I'm not into the fantasy stuff either - the appeal for me, regarding that era of Rush, is almost totally because of the music. There's the occasional clever play on words, but yeah no. I'm not knocking the sci-fi/fantasy fans or their genre, or even Neil's short obsession with it, but it's just never interested me. I love it Thipough i do admit the way they were written ain't perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 QUOTE (ucsteve667 @ Mar 17 2011, 09:21 AM) QUOTE (trenken @ Mar 17 2011, 09:16 AM) I really never had a problem with Going Bald, for the same reason I don't mind the lyrics for Red Lenses (even though I hate that song), it's just kind of a playful break and a very serious band. Only ones I have an issue with are ones that just SOUND stupid, like little effort went into them, like a lot of the counterparts lyrics, Dog Years, stuff like that, or ones that are way too descriptive, like Countdown. Rivendell also makes me cringe because that really sounds like a very young band way too into all that fantasy stuff. It's just not thought provoking at all, which is what Neil is so good at. It's just so corny, even knowing that it wasnt that unusual for prog bands to write about fantasy themes, but something so clearly about lord of the rings just does not work for me. I still think Dog years is clever tongue in cheek word play, and Countdown gives me goosebumps. But I have always been a space geek, like them. To see a shuttle launch must be beyond thrilling Im a total space geek too, just not a big fan of lyrics that are written so descriptively like that. I would have rather it been more abstract, at least a little more. It just ends up sounding a little silly to me, almost like Geddy isnt really singing song lyrics, but more of just a blog post neil wrote about seeing a launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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