Official Dream Theater Thread

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3 hours ago, bluefox4000 said:

 

 

Money or maybe they just want too, lol.

 

ya know i've stepped back a bit and it's kinda dick to say why bother releasing music.  just cause a few fans don't like it.  I mean i hate the songs but to say they just shouldn't cause i don't like it is WILD, lol

 

Mick

yeah I was kind of joking. Cash grab has been an easy joke to make for hte last 20 years or so, about a lot of bands.

Frankly, I'm happy they are still creating.  More power to them.

They are a nice bunch of guys too. Happy for their success.

Edited December 21, 2024 by grep

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14 minutes ago, grep said:

yeah I was kind of joking. Cash grab has been an easy joke to make for hte last 20 years or so, about a lot of bands.

Frankly, I'm happy they are still creating.  More power to them.

They are a nice bunch of guys too. Happy for their success.

Do you have a copy of the new album early?

[bluefox4000]

1 hour ago, Entre_Perpetuo said:

Sometimes you won’t know even till the albums been out for a while. I really thought A View was a disappointment for the first few weeks, then I came around on it massively.

 

Also yeah those first DoT singles weren’t all that special (aside from NOT being The Astonishing again), but when the album in full was released you could see it was actually one of their tightest works. Plus I don’t think they put out Barstool Warrior ahead of time… which is absolutely bizzare in hindsight.

 

 

i still think those 2 singles are two of the weakest on DoT.  they haven't ever grown on me but the album has for sure.

 

So i believe it or not still think the new album could be good.  i'm honestly still excited at the idea of a New DT album.

 

Mick

Edited December 21, 2024 by bluefox4000

[ytserush]

On 12/21/2024 at 11:10 AM, The Analog Cub said:

With DT, the sum is typically greater than its parts for me, and it's especially true with the last two Mangini albums. I think DoT and A View are some of their best work, but yes if you single out a random song from either it's all too easy to say "yep it's DT following their DT formula again". If the trend is to continue with these guys, Parasomnia is probably best enjoyed in full rather than by a couple singles. We'll see how it shakes out, of course, I wasn't thrilled when Mangini got the boot because of how much I enjoyed the last two albums, but Portnoy coming back isn't inherently a bad thing. I seriously doubt we're gonna be cursed with another cheese-fest like Systematic Chaos.

 

I was shocked that it went down the way it did because "I" thought he didn't he didn't need to come back as things were rolling pretty well as they were. But obviously "they" wanted it to happen. Not thrilled with he way it was done either.  But it doesn't make much difference to me which Mike is there because I didn't have any illusions that anything was going to change the direction of the band. I think I've become more a fan of Portnoy outside of Dream Theater than I am when he was in the band based on the diversity of projects he's been in. It's a little weird to consider that I might enjoy the most recent Flying Colors, Liquid Tension Experiment, and Transatlantic live shows more than any Dream Theater live experience. Tough call for me.

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On 12/21/2024 at 1:55 PM, Entre_Perpetuo said:

Sometimes you won’t know even till the albums been out for a while. I really thought A View was a disappointment for the first few weeks, then I came around on it massively.

 

Also yeah those first DoT singles weren’t all that special (aside from NOT being The Astonishing again), but when the album in full was released you could see it was actually one of their tightest works. Plus I don’t think they put out Barstool Warrior ahead of time… which is absolutely bizzare in hindsight.

 

 

It took me about 6 months after Queensryche's Promised Land was released before it knocked me over to the point where it is my absolute favorite Queensryche record (Rage For Order and LiveCrime are up there though.) Promised Land was released around the same time as Awake and that blew me away from the get go (Although the live show wasn't a good as I'd hoped due to Kevin Moore leaving.) Lie didn't thrill me at first.

Edited January 4 by ytserush

[The Analog Cub]

51 minutes ago, ytserush said:

 

I was shocked that it went down the way it did because "I" thought he didn't he didn't need to come back as things were rolling pretty well as they were. But obviously "they" wanted it to happen. Not thrilled with he way it was done either.  But it doesn't make much difference to me which Mike is there because I didn't have any illusions that anything was going to change the direction of the band. I think I've become more a fan of Portnoy outside of Dream Theater than I am when he was in the band based on the diversity of projects he's been in. It's a little weird to consider that I might enjoy the most recent Flying Colors, Liquid Tension Experiment, and Transatlantic live shows more than any Dream Theater live experience. Tough call for me.

 

LTE is great, and I loved the new one.

 

Flying Colors has some decent stuff but it gets so cheesy at times. Neal Morse has a disposition to make anything he touches so corny, and Casey McPherson and Portnoy pile onto it at times.

 

I liked their second album overall. 

[ytserush]

50 minutes ago, The Analog Cub said:

 

LTE is great, and I loved the new one.

 

Flying Colors has some decent stuff but it gets so cheesy at times. Neal Morse has a disposition to make anything he touches so corny, and Casey McPherson and Portnoy pile onto it at times.

 

I liked their second album overall. 

 

I love Casey. The last album they did was ridiculous.  First album was good. Second album was uneven (some amazing songs and others not so much) and the last one kicked it. I like the live albums more but since they released the regular 3rd live album and the Morsefest performance, I can't get past either of those two, Those two have become my regular go to Flying Colors albums. Nearly the perfect set for me. Can't get enough of those two live albums.

[bluefox4000]

On 1/3/2025 at 10:54 PM, The Analog Cub said:

 

LTE is great, and I loved the new one.

 

Flying Colors has some decent stuff but it gets so cheesy at times. Neal Morse has a disposition to make anything he touches so corny, and Casey McPherson and Portnoy pile onto it at times.

 

I liked their second album overall. 

 

i only like FC second album.  To me it's the weakest band Portnoy was in.

 

And i went through a big Morse phase but now he's too cornball. i at least could appreciate the music side.  but he's kida lost his ear for that since around 2019/2020

 

also he dominates any band he's in so it just sounds like Neal Morse.

 

Mick

[The Analog Cub]

5 hours ago, bluefox4000 said:

 

i only like FC second album.  To me it's the weakest band Portnoy was in.

 

And i went through a big Morse phase but now he's too cornball. i at least could appreciate the music side.  but he's kida lost his ear for that since around 2019/2020

 

also he dominates any band he's in so it just sounds like Neal Morse.

 

Mick

 

The second and third FC albums don't feel quite as cheesy overall, but they have their moments I need to skip through. I tried Spock's Beard for a little bit and it feels the same.

 

I thought The Winery Dogs was Portnoy's "weakest" but tastes vary. All three musicians are super talented but the music felt too much like a clone of Mr. Big. It didn't provide me anything "new". Sons of Apollo wasn't much better but at least felt like a Dream Theater more grounded in darker, heavier rock with JSS and Sherinian's keyboard palette.

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Adrenaline Mob was by far my least favorite Portnoy band from the moment I heard it.

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I don't really have a problem with all of Mike's side projects. The dude was trying to etch out a living, rather than fade into obscurity.  It's not like the stuff is terrible... but yeah, we all have our tastes.

The only stuff out of all that in my heavy rotation are a couple of the Transatlantic songs, and a couple of the covers Adrenaline Mob did. Pretty well done, IMO. The rest is decent and makes it into occasional album rotation.

[bluefox4000]

Taylor Swift Confuses Mike

 

 

Mick