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28 minutes ago, goose said:

So, we're looking at a fifty year transition, which seems reasonable.  Costs will need to drop significantly during that time, and road infrastructure will need to change.  To me it seems that widespread e-vehicle use makes most sense in densely populated areas, with smaller micro-sized vehicles navigating surface roads rather than mega-highways.  The greater Phoenix area should have been fully designed around this kind of model.  

I'd say suburban car commuters benefit most from EVs, yes. Downtown urbanites benefit from better transit/biking, not from gas cars becoming electric. But everyone benefits from less exhaust gases in areas with shitloads of people. The charger network will continue rolling out, including to rural areas. Blanding UT has had L3 chargers for a while, and Bluff is getting some this year, for example. Very rural Utah/Nevada types sometimes have to pay out the nose for fuel; getting electric viable for them will help drastically lower per-mile driving costs for those that have to drive many miles.

 

Costs are dropping, yep. IIRC, lithium prices are down like 80-90% from prices of five years ago. Not sure what needs to change with road infrastructure related to EVs (road infrastructure at large needs to keep shifting towards multimodal, not just endless widenings). Damage to roadways is exponential from vehicle weight. A 1,000 lb heavier EV does more damage than the ICE counterpart, but it still does absolutely jack shit compared to an ambulance, box truck, firetruck, semi truck, tanker truck, or anything like that driving on it. Look up ESAL's if you'd like. We basically design roads around equivalent bigass truck axles passing. We convert X number of chickenshit passenger car axles into one truck axle passing.

 

Phoenix is a very poorly designed car dependent shithole. Highest ped death rates per mile walked of probably anywhere in the country.

 

I'm skipping it and planning on going to more palatable Tucson this winter.

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3 minutes ago, BastillePark said:

Fisker declared bankruptcy and some U.S. oil and corn industry lobby groups are suing the Biden administration over the newest plan to reduce emissions on cars and light trucks. Those emissions have been reduced by more than 90% since that process started in the 70's but the environmental wackos always want more.

Part of the emissions/efficiency gains of the last 25 years have been wiped out thanks to people choosing to drive significantly larger vehicles than they used to. Someone going from a 2004 CRV to a 2024 F-150 is an emissions improvement, but a 2004 CRV to a 2024 CRV is a much bigger improvement.

 

But hey, we love giving trucks a practically free pass here and focusing on those evil compact cars, anything that isn't a "light truck" like a PT Cruiser.

 

Fisker was doomed for a while. But I think my personal darling Rivian is going to make it.

 

I like reasonable rates of improvement. Without some pushes, we would've kept using shit like leaded gasoline for a decade plus longer.

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One of the most hilarious vehicles I've ever driven is an electric F-150 Lightning. Big boy urban cowboy next to me at the red light felt real proud of his 6.2L Silverado Trail Boss on mean boy tires at an intersection; loud ass custom exhaust, revving it. And then he gets sent to Gapplebee's for a cold gapperoni pizza when the light turns green by a dead silent F-150 that's getting to 50 faster than he's getting to 35. It was a great moment. Stick to the right lane with that slowass V8.

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1 hour ago, That One Guy said:

One of the most hilarious vehicles I've ever driven is an electric F-150 Lightning. Big boy urban cowboy next to me at the red light felt real proud of his 6.2L Silverado Trail Boss on mean boy tires at an intersection; loud ass custom exhaust, revving it. And then he gets sent to Gapplebee's for a cold gapperoni pizza when the light turns green by a dead silent F-150 that's getting to 50 faster than he's getting to 35. It was a great moment. Stick to the right lane with that slowass V8.

Gapplebee's...LOL, been a while since I've seen that one.

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On 6/14/2024 at 5:11 PM, That One Guy said:

The struggle for housing and other economic security for the young in the modern age cannot just be whittled down to "better become an engineer, carpenter, plumber, or welder".

 

Should teachers, bus drivers, small business owners, retail staff etc just go f**k themselves and never own a home? Or do we outvote the status quo* and get fixing some shit?

 

*Warning!! This might cause pension age individuals to have a few years of single-digit percent returns on their portfolios! Can't have steady growth on passive income forever without eventual societal consequences, like everyone at the top owning everything.

 

I think if you fight the market, the power behind the market will fight back. And that leads to bad employment data, higher unemployment,bad GDP, and so on.

 

I really like the idea of having a group of young billionaires band together and buy a couple of minor league Stadium sized towns, build a lot of affordable housing targeted to young professionals and trades people. Also build employment centers to get companies interested in investing in office space

 

If that works people start to move there and then that creates demand for employment which creates a chain of positive economic outcomes for that generation

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On 6/15/2024 at 12:00 AM, That One Guy said:

Why is rural vs urban practically inherently a culture war thing? In other words, why is it apparently functionally impossible for a consistently republican-majority city of 500k+ to exist in the US?

 

Modern republicanism thrives in low population zones because its easier to limit information and people are set in their ways 

 

Once they move to a larger city, they work and interact with a larger and diverse population,  and can relate to their struggles and realize they aren't the boogeyman. 

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23 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

Modern republicanism thrives in low population zones because its easier to limit information and people are set in their ways 

 

Once they move to a larger city, they work and interact with a larger and diverse population,  and can relate to their struggles and realize they aren't the boogeyman. 

Thanks for the periodic reminder not to open your posts when eating or drinking.

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45 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

I think if you fight the market, the power behind the market will fight back. And that leads to bad employment data, higher unemployment,bad GDP, and so on.

 

I really like the idea of having a group of young billionaires band together and buy a couple of minor league Stadium sized towns, build a lot of affordable housing targeted to young professionals and trades people. Also build employment centers to get companies interested in investing in office space

 

If that works people start to move there and then that creates demand for employment which creates a chain of positive economic outcomes for that generation

Young people tend to like the good urban areas we already have. I could see such theoretical billionaires simply investing in places that are already desirable to help them reach full urbanism potential. In some cases it requires zoning or other code changes first, but generally the most desirable urban areas have already done half or more of the work on that front.

 

Any private entity like Brightline West that's investing in transit to urban areas is going to be printing money once the systems are operational. It took US governments so damned long to get on board with 120mph+ rail that it somehow became cost-effective for private entities to go for it, especially if they possibly receive a grant.

 

Seeing high quality transit slowly, finally proliferate in a few select regions of the US gives you hope that it'll happen at a faster clip moving forward. Florida is loving their new trains. So are Montreal and Seattle. The LA/Vegas train will assuredly be adored, and it'll be the biggest and most striking mobile billboard for HSR the country has once open. Once the NEC gets its continued upgrades, it'll just push that much further ahead of the misery of short-haul flights and 4 hour congestion drives.

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One of my neighbors requested some cake, so I’m baking a blueberry bundt cake. I added some lemon juice just because. 

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7 hours ago, That One Guy said:

I'd say suburban car commuters benefit most from EVs, yes. Downtown urbanites benefit from better transit/biking, not from gas cars becoming electric. But everyone benefits from less exhaust gases in areas with shitloads of people. The charger network will continue rolling out, including to rural areas. Blanding UT has had L3 chargers for a while, and Bluff is getting some this year, for example. Very rural Utah/Nevada types sometimes have to pay out the nose for fuel; getting electric viable for them will help drastically lower per-mile driving costs for those that have to drive many miles.

 

Costs are dropping, yep. IIRC, lithium prices are down like 80-90% from prices of five years ago. Not sure what needs to change with road infrastructure related to EVs (road infrastructure at large needs to keep shifting towards multimodal, not just endless widenings). Damage to roadways is exponential from vehicle weight. A 1,000 lb heavier EV does more damage than the ICE counterpart, but it still does absolutely jack shit compared to an ambulance, box truck, firetruck, semi truck, tanker truck, or anything like that driving on it. Look up ESAL's if you'd like. We basically design roads around equivalent bigass truck axles passing. We convert X number of chickenshit passenger car axles into one truck axle passing.

 

Phoenix is a very poorly designed car dependent shithole. Highest ped death rates per mile walked of probably anywhere in the country.

 

I'm skipping it and planning on going to more palatable Tucson this winter.

I like Tucson, nestled against the hills

 

ETA:  Tucson has no-car exerbs,  which I think is a great idea.  Foot traffic only, local shopping.  I loved  that about Europe and Latin America.  Much more social

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14 hours ago, laughedatbytime said:

Thanks for the periodic reminder not to open your posts when eating or drinking.

 

Proving my point 

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On 6/15/2024 at 6:52 PM, goose said:

 

Biden's been the disaster we knew he'd be, domestically and internationally.  

The supply chain broke before Joe and the Man in the red hat showed zero interest in fixing it.

 

His only concern in 2020 was yapping "I win or it's rigged" a thousand times

 

 

 

 

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Let's bring an international cricket World Championship to the United States and put it on an obscure cable channel for $14 a month. Makes perfect sense to have no one watching it

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10 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

Proving my point 

Yours is a world where points don't have to be proven (or accurate) just bigoted assertions made.

 

 

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On 6/15/2024 at 6:59 PM, That One Guy said:

I should keep this to SOCN. The negative of LABT's [on-and-off] existence is worth the positive of a higher hit rate of full posts responded to

When the heck did he find this place? Back in the old days in was "circumstances free" TOST. Not anymore. 

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2 minutes ago, laughedatbytime said:

Yours is a world where points don't have to be proven (or accurate) just bigoted assertions made.

 

 

So have at it.  Instead of attack attack attack,  answer TOGs question. 

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35 minutes ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

So have at it.  Instead of attack attack attack,  answer TOGs question. 

What question?

 

I assume you mean the one about one party rule in major cities.  My answer is below.

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not indexing the maximum amount for a shoplifting misdemeanor in california to inflation is a crime against humanity

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the best thing about poor people is that they never make bad decisions

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virtually every post here if not all of them have been made on stolen land  and on devices created by someone with more money than they need

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26 minutes ago, laughedatbytime said:

What question?

 

I assume you mean the one about one party rule in major cities.  My answer is below.

 

15 hours ago, GabesCavesOfIce said:

 

Modern republicanism thrives in low population zones because its easier to limit information and people are set in their ways 

 

Once they move to a larger city, they work and interact with a larger and diverse population,  and can relate to their struggles and realize they aren't the boogeyman. 

My theory is that it tends to be that minorities, who think the Democrats are going to help them lol, and idealistic young people who have little life experience make up the majority of the electorate in major cities, and those who do age out of their naivete and/or become more successful, and importantly,  have kids they have better aspirations for than city public schools, move out of the city proper into more suburban areas.

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47 minutes ago, laughedatbytime said:

 

My theory is that it tends to be that minorities, who think the Democrats are going to help them lol, and idealistic young people who have little life experience make up the majority of the electorate in major cities, and those who do age out of their naivete and/or become more successful, and importantly,  have kids they have better aspirations for than city public schools, move out of the city proper into more suburban areas.

Then with their mismanagement and corruption, they make it even less palatable for sane people to want to stay.  This is what the Democratic Party refers to as a virtuous circle.

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