Fordgalaxy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I am not interested in arguing with anyone, but a cavalier attitude to this is going to get everyone in big trouble. Those scenes from spring break are insane. Idiots laughing about getting Corona but it won't stop their partying. To the sceptics - so you have a better handle on this than all of the medical experts around the world? Forget the media - there is huge political bias both ways. I am more right of centre but I read a lot of left media so I can see what the other side is saying - I always have done this. I firmly believe it makes me a more intelligent person. Those who get all of their news from one side cannot form an educated opinion - in my opinion. But I am off on a tangent. I just want to understand. I live in a city of 5 million that is in virtual lock down. I am about to lay off people at my company. This is very real for me. And yes there are people in their 30's on respirators. It is not only hitting the old. And if it was, do they not count. Yes the flu has killed more people but has the flu brought down the world economy like this potentially could? I feel really bad that in the face of all of this I have been duped. What an idiot I am! This is really nothing.... Earlier this week Trump said the USA “tremendously ready” for this. So the USA will be fine. [Just to be sure, those 2 sentences are sarcasm and I’m with you]To be fair, almost everything he says is a lie or just ignorance on his part, yet his supporters take it as gospel. There were reports that many churches in the South held services just like they always do because all this is overblown and their god will protect them anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 There are now 14,366 confirmed cases in the U.S. 217 deaths. This is in less than 2 months. It is serious and it is about to get out of control. The waffling about helping the states fight this continues today. There is no excuse to put lives in danger.Haven't you heard? All we need to do apparently is change to a different news channel and everything is magically good in the world. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) I am not interested in arguing with anyone, but a cavalier attitude to this is going to get everyone in big trouble. Those scenes from spring break are insane. Idiots laughing about getting Corona but it won't stop their partying. To the sceptics - so you have a better handle on this than all of the medical experts around the world? Forget the media - there is huge political bias both ways. I am more right of centre but I read a lot of left media so I can see what the other side is saying - I always have done this. I firmly believe it makes me a more intelligent person. Those who get all of their news from one side cannot form an educated opinion - in my opinion. But I am off on a tangent. I just want to understand. I live in a city of 5 million that is in virtual lock down. I am about to lay off people at my company. This is very real for me. And yes there are people in their 30's on respirators. It is not only hitting the old. And if it was, do they not count. Yes the flu has killed more people but has the flu brought down the world economy like this potentially could? I feel really bad that in the face of all of this I have been duped. What an idiot I am! This is really nothing.... I hope you and your company make out all right. my company got wiped out in 2009 and i hate to see it happen to anyone. alot of my buddies businesses are in jeopardy too. Edited March 20, 2020 by tangy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I am not interested in arguing with anyone, but a cavalier attitude to this is going to get everyone in big trouble. Those scenes from spring break are insane. Idiots laughing about getting Corona but it won't stop their partying. To the sceptics - so you have a better handle on this than all of the medical experts around the world? Forget the media - there is huge political bias both ways. I am more right of centre but I read a lot of left media so I can see what the other side is saying - I always have done this. I firmly believe it makes me a more intelligent person. Those who get all of their news from one side cannot form an educated opinion - in my opinion. But I am off on a tangent. I just want to understand. I live in a city of 5 million that is in virtual lock down. I am about to lay off people at my company. This is very real for me. And yes there are people in their 30's on respirators. It is not only hitting the old. And if it was, do they not count. Yes the flu has killed more people but has the flu brought down the world economy like this potentially could? I feel really bad that in the face of all of this I have been duped. What an idiot I am! This is really nothing.... Earlier this week Trump said the USA “tremendously ready” for this. So the USA will be fine. [Just to be sure, those 2 sentences are sarcasm and I’m with you]To be fair, almost everything he says is a lie or just ignorance on his part, yet his supporters take it as gospel. There were reports that many churches in the South held services just like they always do because all this is overblown and their god will protect them anyway.I hope Canada starts building a wall soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 There are now 14,366 confirmed cases in the U.S. 217 deaths. This is in less than 2 months. It is serious and it is about to get out of control. The waffling about helping the states fight this continues today. There is no excuse to put lives in danger.Haven't you heard? All we need to do apparently is change to a different news channel and everything is magically good in the world. One second I’m a fool wearing a tin foil hat, the next I’m enlightened Buddha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I am not interested in arguing with anyone, but a cavalier attitude to this is going to get everyone in big trouble. Those scenes from spring break are insane. Idiots laughing about getting Corona but it won't stop their partying. To the sceptics - so you have a better handle on this than all of the medical experts around the world? Forget the media - there is huge political bias both ways. I am more right of centre but I read a lot of left media so I can see what the other side is saying - I always have done this. I firmly believe it makes me a more intelligent person. Those who get all of their news from one side cannot form an educated opinion - in my opinion. But I am off on a tangent. I just want to understand. I live in a city of 5 million that is in virtual lock down. I am about to lay off people at my company. This is very real for me. And yes there are people in their 30's on respirators. It is not only hitting the old. And if it was, do they not count. Yes the flu has killed more people but has the flu brought down the world economy like this potentially could? I feel really bad that in the face of all of this I have been duped. What an idiot I am! This is really nothing.... Earlier this week Trump said the USA “tremendously ready” for this. So the USA will be fine. [Just to be sure, those 2 sentences are sarcasm and I’m with you] i'm waiting for him to say Corona virus id the BEST virus and nobody comes down with it better than i do. fukkin' orange moron. Mick the strangest part about his dismal response is that most vulnerable people seems to be a large part of his base. what little we knew about this disease early on is that it was especially hard on old men. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I am not interested in arguing with anyone, but a cavalier attitude to this is going to get everyone in big trouble. Those scenes from spring break are insane. Idiots laughing about getting Corona but it won't stop their partying. To the sceptics - so you have a better handle on this than all of the medical experts around the world? Forget the media - there is huge political bias both ways. I am more right of centre but I read a lot of left media so I can see what the other side is saying - I always have done this. I firmly believe it makes me a more intelligent person. Those who get all of their news from one side cannot form an educated opinion - in my opinion. But I am off on a tangent. I just want to understand. I live in a city of 5 million that is in virtual lock down. I am about to lay off people at my company. This is very real for me. And yes there are people in their 30's on respirators. It is not only hitting the old. And if it was, do they not count. Yes the flu has killed more people but has the flu brought down the world economy like this potentially could? I feel really bad that in the face of all of this I have been duped. What an idiot I am! This is really nothing.... Earlier this week Trump said the USA “tremendously ready” for this. So the USA will be fine. [Just to be sure, those 2 sentences are sarcasm and I’m with you]To be fair, almost everything he says is a lie or just ignorance on his part, yet his supporters take it as gospel. There were reports that many churches in the South held services just like they always do because all this is overblown and their god will protect them anyway.You think they are going to let a little virus stop them from preaching when they are passing the rattlesnakes around? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I am not interested in arguing with anyone, but a cavalier attitude to this is going to get everyone in big trouble. Those scenes from spring break are insane. Idiots laughing about getting Corona but it won't stop their partying. To the sceptics - so you have a better handle on this than all of the medical experts around the world? Forget the media - there is huge political bias both ways. I am more right of centre but I read a lot of left media so I can see what the other side is saying - I always have done this. I firmly believe it makes me a more intelligent person. Those who get all of their news from one side cannot form an educated opinion - in my opinion. But I am off on a tangent. I just want to understand. I live in a city of 5 million that is in virtual lock down. I am about to lay off people at my company. This is very real for me. And yes there are people in their 30's on respirators. It is not only hitting the old. And if it was, do they not count. Yes the flu has killed more people but has the flu brought down the world economy like this potentially could? I feel really bad that in the face of all of this I have been duped. What an idiot I am! This is really nothing.... Earlier this week Trump said the USA “tremendously ready” for this. So the USA will be fine. [Just to be sure, those 2 sentences are sarcasm and I’m with you]To be fair, almost everything he says is a lie or just ignorance on his part, yet his supporters take it as gospel. There were reports that many churches in the South held services just like they always do because all this is overblown and their god will protect them anyway.You think they are going to let a little virus stop them from preaching when they are passing the rattlesnakes around? this might surprise you but i have respect for the snake handlers. talk about faith. that is assuming they are handling snakes with fangs and drinking real cyanide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 If it's in US, we won't know . . . still very little testing! There's over 4000 confirmed cases in 49 states. It's definitely here and certainly should be a concern but it's not time for a full on panic yet. They're taking the proper measures I believe in the limitations they've made in my state when it comes to big get togethers. It's gonna be different for a while but we'll get back to some normalcy soon enough. I think people are overreacting over here actually. At least it doesn't make total sense why everything's shutting down indefinitely for this one, but Swine Flu and Bird Flu and Sars and Ebola and ever other major health scare of the past 20 years didn't have half this effect. But oh well, people overreacting is probably what will keep the US from winding up like China in this mess... Most of us do not have to worry but the elderly and sick people do. We have to quarantine ourselves so it does not keep spreading and infecting them. When people first started dying in Seattle they said 24 people had died but 18 of them were from the same Nursing home. That is what people don't get, anyone can be a carrier without symptoms and then they spread it around to others. The flattening the curve effect is to keep the numbers down so our hospitals won't be overrun. That's why we needed our government to pay attention and not blow if off like it was nothing. We are fighting against a wave that started weeks ago but we just didn't know it because of the lack of testing capability. This isn't something we can just ignore, we are all in it together. This is uncharted territory and we need to work together or we sink together. As for the comment that Ebola wasn't as bad, that is completely wrong. It killed 50 percent of the people who got it. We also had a Pandemic Task Force that went to West Africa to help fight the disease there. In March 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported an outbreak of Ebola virus disease in the West African country of Guinea. Additional cases have since been reported in the countries of Liberia and Sierra Leone, as well as Nigeria and Senegal. To date, there have been more than 22,500 reported Ebola cases in West Africa, with more than 8,900 deaths. At home, U.S. medical teams have treated 12 Ebola patients — all but two recovered. Since the start of the outbreak, the United States has sent more than 3,000 DOD, CDC, USAID, and other U.S. health officials to Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea to assist with response efforts, as part of a 10,000-person U.S.-backed civilian response. With their help, the U.S. government has:Constructed 15 Ebola treatment units in the regionProvided more than 400 metric tons of personal protective equipment and other medical and relief suppliesOperated more than 190 burial teams in the regionConducted aggressive contact tracing to identify chains of transmissionTrained health care workers and conducted community outreachWorked with international partners to identify travelers who may have Ebola before they leave the regionThanks to their efforts, and the work of countless others from around the world, the number of people who are contracting Ebola has declined sharply from peak levels. So what have we done this time? Pretend it doesn't exist, wish it away despite the evidence of massive deaths. Let large numbers of Chinese come to the U.S. BEFORE we closed our borders. By then it was too late. Maybe our Pandemic Task Force could have helped go to China to see what was going on and help but oh yeah someone canned the whole group in 2018. We have been put at risk by bungling and fumbling from the get go. Test kits made here in U.S.were defective, we could have had free tests given to us by the WHO but no we couldn't do that. So they try to get test kits to Americans but it is 3 weeks since they promised 1 Million would be made available. People are dying because of this inept response. People are scared because they can't trust the government to do its job professionally and in a timely manner. So it has been left to the local Mayors, Governors and their health departments to fix it but it is too big for them to do alone. This is why some people are panicking and buying everything in sight, it gives them some sense of control but of course it doesn't really help. People who really need food can't get it because the crazies have bought it all up.Yes, I am upset and I am doing all I can to be careful and look out for those I can but I don't understand all the denial that this is no big deal, it has the potential to cause millions of deaths. I just hope that is wrong but better to err on the side of caution.Boy it's obvious where you get your "news" from and worse yet believe it. Enjoy...Seriously, what is wrong with this info?Comparing Covid19 to ebola? I was pointing out the difference in our response to the two diseases. We had a methodical and well planned approach to Ebola and helped lessen its impact and we only had 12 cases here in the US because we were proactive and acted quickly. Our COVID 19 response has been pathetic and is endangering lives. I was also responding to another comment that said Ebola was no big deal, which was not true. Just hope you realize the differences between the countries and governments involved in the two cases. Apples and oranges of course. H1 N1 might be a more apt comparison. Take a look at that one and the media reaction at the time if you can find any mention of it anywhere... Ok, I did some checking and here is what I found. Website Healthline https://www.healthli...-past-outbreaks 2009 (H1N1) flu pandemicBack in 2009, a new type of flu — an H1N1 strain — popped up and people panicked because we didn’t have a vaccine and the novel strain was spreading fast.Like COVID-19, there was no immunity at the start of the outbreak. We did have antivirals to facilitate recovery, and by the end of 2009, we had a vaccine which — combined with higher levels of immunity — would provide protection in future flu seasons.Still, it claimed over 12,000 lives in the United States.Key symptoms: fever, chills, cough, body achesFirst detection: January 2009 in Mexico; April 2009Trusted Source in United StatesGlobal cases: about 24 percent of global population; 60.8 million U.S. casesGlobal deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percentMost affected groups: children had the highest rates; 47 percentTrusted Source of children between 5 and 19 developed symptoms compared to 11 percent of people ages 65 and upTreatment available: antiviralsTrusted Source (oseltamivir and zanamivir); most people recovered without complicationsVaccine available: H1N1 vaccine research started April 2009 and a vaccine became available December 2009End of pandemic: August 2010Here's an analysis of what has been said about the H1N1 response:“If you go back and look at the swine flu, and what happened with the swine flu, you’ll see how many people died, and how actually nothing was done for such a long period of time, as people were dying all over the place,” he said. “We’re doing it the opposite. We’re very much ahead of everything.”Trump is correct on the number of H1N1 cases and deaths, but it’s misleading to compare those figures to the current outbreak of COVID-19, which has just begun. It’s also not true that the Obama administration did nothing or waited a long time to act on the H1N1 influenza pandemic.In 2009, a new H1N1 influenza virus cropped up out of season, in late spring. Because of genetic similarities to influenza viruses in pigs, it became known as a “swine flu,” even though there is no evidence the virus spread between pigs or pigs to humans.According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were about 60.8 million cases of infection with the novel type of influenza virus in the U.S. between April 2009 and April 2010, with a total of approximately 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths.While that death toll may sound high, it’s over an entire year and, in fact, ended up being far lower than was initially expected. The strain of influenza also turned out to have a case fatality rate of just 0.02% — well below even many typical seasonal influenzas.Everything that’s known about the new coronavirus so far suggests that it’s an entirely different beast than its most recent pandemic predecessor. Peter Jay Hotez, a professor and dean of the tropical medicine school at Baylor College of Medicine, told us that the new virus, which is known as SARS-CoV-2, is considerably more transmissible and more lethal than H1N1.For those reasons, he said, “the urgency to contain this coronavirus is so much greater than the H1N1 2009 one was.” There is more discussion of this at https://www.factchec...-pandemic-spin/ There are now 14,366 confirmed cases in the U.S. 217 deaths. This is in less than 2 months. It is serious and it is about to get out of control. The waffling about helping the states fight this continues today. There is no excuse to put lives in danger.I now see the problem we are having. You trust the spin and I don't. Pretty simple. Remember impeachment? John Bolton etc? The hysteria? Lots of media generated hysterics over the past 4 years or so and none have panned out in their favor. Just my opinion and I pay close attention... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 If it's in US, we won't know . . . still very little testing! There's over 4000 confirmed cases in 49 states. It's definitely here and certainly should be a concern but it's not time for a full on panic yet. They're taking the proper measures I believe in the limitations they've made in my state when it comes to big get togethers. It's gonna be different for a while but we'll get back to some normalcy soon enough. I think people are overreacting over here actually. At least it doesn't make total sense why everything's shutting down indefinitely for this one, but Swine Flu and Bird Flu and Sars and Ebola and ever other major health scare of the past 20 years didn't have half this effect. But oh well, people overreacting is probably what will keep the US from winding up like China in this mess... Most of us do not have to worry but the elderly and sick people do. We have to quarantine ourselves so it does not keep spreading and infecting them. When people first started dying in Seattle they said 24 people had died but 18 of them were from the same Nursing home. That is what people don't get, anyone can be a carrier without symptoms and then they spread it around to others. The flattening the curve effect is to keep the numbers down so our hospitals won't be overrun. That's why we needed our government to pay attention and not blow if off like it was nothing. We are fighting against a wave that started weeks ago but we just didn't know it because of the lack of testing capability. This isn't something we can just ignore, we are all in it together. This is uncharted territory and we need to work together or we sink together. As for the comment that Ebola wasn't as bad, that is completely wrong. It killed 50 percent of the people who got it. We also had a Pandemic Task Force that went to West Africa to help fight the disease there. In March 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported an outbreak of Ebola virus disease in the West African country of Guinea. Additional cases have since been reported in the countries of Liberia and Sierra Leone, as well as Nigeria and Senegal. To date, there have been more than 22,500 reported Ebola cases in West Africa, with more than 8,900 deaths. At home, U.S. medical teams have treated 12 Ebola patients — all but two recovered. Since the start of the outbreak, the United States has sent more than 3,000 DOD, CDC, USAID, and other U.S. health officials to Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea to assist with response efforts, as part of a 10,000-person U.S.-backed civilian response. With their help, the U.S. government has:Constructed 15 Ebola treatment units in the regionProvided more than 400 metric tons of personal protective equipment and other medical and relief suppliesOperated more than 190 burial teams in the regionConducted aggressive contact tracing to identify chains of transmissionTrained health care workers and conducted community outreachWorked with international partners to identify travelers who may have Ebola before they leave the regionThanks to their efforts, and the work of countless others from around the world, the number of people who are contracting Ebola has declined sharply from peak levels. So what have we done this time? Pretend it doesn't exist, wish it away despite the evidence of massive deaths. Let large numbers of Chinese come to the U.S. BEFORE we closed our borders. By then it was too late. Maybe our Pandemic Task Force could have helped go to China to see what was going on and help but oh yeah someone canned the whole group in 2018. We have been put at risk by bungling and fumbling from the get go. Test kits made here in U.S.were defective, we could have had free tests given to us by the WHO but no we couldn't do that. So they try to get test kits to Americans but it is 3 weeks since they promised 1 Million would be made available. People are dying because of this inept response. People are scared because they can't trust the government to do its job professionally and in a timely manner. So it has been left to the local Mayors, Governors and their health departments to fix it but it is too big for them to do alone. This is why some people are panicking and buying everything in sight, it gives them some sense of control but of course it doesn't really help. People who really need food can't get it because the crazies have bought it all up.Yes, I am upset and I am doing all I can to be careful and look out for those I can but I don't understand all the denial that this is no big deal, it has the potential to cause millions of deaths. I just hope that is wrong but better to err on the side of caution.Boy it's obvious where you get your "news" from and worse yet believe it. Enjoy...Seriously, what is wrong with this info?Comparing Covid19 to ebola? I was pointing out the difference in our response to the two diseases. We had a methodical and well planned approach to Ebola and helped lessen its impact and we only had 12 cases here in the US because we were proactive and acted quickly. Our COVID 19 response has been pathetic and is endangering lives. I was also responding to another comment that said Ebola was no big deal, which was not true. Just hope you realize the differences between the countries and governments involved in the two cases. Apples and oranges of course. H1 N1 might be a more apt comparison. Take a look at that one and the media reaction at the time if you can find any mention of it anywhere... Ok, I did some checking and here is what I found. Website Healthline https://www.healthli...-past-outbreaks 2009 (H1N1) flu pandemicBack in 2009, a new type of flu — an H1N1 strain — popped up and people panicked because we didn’t have a vaccine and the novel strain was spreading fast.Like COVID-19, there was no immunity at the start of the outbreak. We did have antivirals to facilitate recovery, and by the end of 2009, we had a vaccine which — combined with higher levels of immunity — would provide protection in future flu seasons.Still, it claimed over 12,000 lives in the United States.Key symptoms: fever, chills, cough, body achesFirst detection: January 2009 in Mexico; April 2009Trusted Source in United StatesGlobal cases: about 24 percent of global population; 60.8 million U.S. casesGlobal deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percentMost affected groups: children had the highest rates; 47 percentTrusted Source of children between 5 and 19 developed symptoms compared to 11 percent of people ages 65 and upTreatment available: antiviralsTrusted Source (oseltamivir and zanamivir); most people recovered without complicationsVaccine available: H1N1 vaccine research started April 2009 and a vaccine became available December 2009End of pandemic: August 2010Here's an analysis of what has been said about the H1N1 response:“If you go back and look at the swine flu, and what happened with the swine flu, you’ll see how many people died, and how actually nothing was done for such a long period of time, as people were dying all over the place,” he said. “We’re doing it the opposite. We’re very much ahead of everything.”Trump is correct on the number of H1N1 cases and deaths, but it’s misleading to compare those figures to the current outbreak of COVID-19, which has just begun. It’s also not true that the Obama administration did nothing or waited a long time to act on the H1N1 influenza pandemic.In 2009, a new H1N1 influenza virus cropped up out of season, in late spring. Because of genetic similarities to influenza viruses in pigs, it became known as a “swine flu,” even though there is no evidence the virus spread between pigs or pigs to humans.According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were about 60.8 million cases of infection with the novel type of influenza virus in the U.S. between April 2009 and April 2010, with a total of approximately 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths.While that death toll may sound high, it’s over an entire year and, in fact, ended up being far lower than was initially expected. The strain of influenza also turned out to have a case fatality rate of just 0.02% — well below even many typical seasonal influenzas.Everything that’s known about the new coronavirus so far suggests that it’s an entirely different beast than its most recent pandemic predecessor. Peter Jay Hotez, a professor and dean of the tropical medicine school at Baylor College of Medicine, told us that the new virus, which is known as SARS-CoV-2, is considerably more transmissible and more lethal than H1N1.For those reasons, he said, “the urgency to contain this coronavirus is so much greater than the H1N1 2009 one was.” There is more discussion of this at https://www.factchec...-pandemic-spin/ There are now 14,366 confirmed cases in the U.S. 217 deaths. This is in less than 2 months. It is serious and it is about to get out of control. The waffling about helping the states fight this continues today. There is no excuse to put lives in danger.I now see the problem we are having. You trust the spin and I don't. Pretty simple. Remember impeachment? John Bolton etc? The hysteria? Lots of media generated hysterics over the past 4 years or so and none have panned out in their favor. Just my opinion and I pay close attention... :goodone: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on.It's social media that brainwashes these people... ....And you also have people like Narps who says he is just going to go about his business like nothing is happening, not caring if he might be spreading the virus. Edited March 20, 2020 by snowdogged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 It really pisses me off when I see people trying to turn this into a political issue when stories like this are popping up daily. I say shame on all of you who are disrespecting people's pain and suffering. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/media/coronavirus-nbc-news/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on. I was shocked to hear that the beaches in Florida were still opened up until a few days ago. I figured that was going to be one of the first things shut down when the government restrictions started up last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on. I was shocked to hear that the beaches in Florida were still opened up until a few days ago. I figured that was going to be one of the first things shut down when the government restrictions started up last week.They only closed one beach in Florida as of yesterday, all of the rest were opened. I do not know if they closed any today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on. I was shocked to hear that the beaches in Florida were still opened up until a few days ago. I figured that was going to be one of the first things shut down when the government restrictions started up last week.They only closed one beach in Florida as of yesterday, all of the rest were opened. I do not know if they closed any today. My sister has lived in St. Pete Beach for many years. The counties have had to do things individually because the governor has not done much until today. Today, many of the counties are closing their beaches and the governor announced all bars and restaurants closed except for take out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyta Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) I now see the problem we are having. You trust the spin and I don't. Pretty simple. Remember impeachment? John Bolton etc? The hysteria? Lots of media generated hysterics over the past 4 years or so and none have panned out in their favor. Just my opinion and I pay close attention... I am sure for the most part you can guess. The media enjoys hype and eyeballs and power. After what I have witnessed the past 12 years or so I can't believe anything they say. As I said enjoy the hype while I get on with my life... People are dying and you think it won't affect you? Unless you are in a hermetically sealed container, you are in danger. Why is it that everything is a conspiracy to take down Trump? Logic would tell you that is nonsensical, everything that happens is not about him. He's supposed to be our Leader and steer the Country through these rough times. Instead he acts like a child and says everybody is being mean to me. You obviously have your mind made up and that makes me sad that you would be so callous to dismiss what is happening all around you. I'm very dismayed to see someone I have liked to talk to on TRF act like he is brainwashed. I don't know what else to call it, the refusal to accept anything that collides with your world view is very disturbing. Edited March 20, 2020 by Rhyta 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on. I was shocked to hear that the beaches in Florida were still opened up until a few days ago. I figured that was going to be one of the first things shut down when the government restrictions started up last week. for sure. the governor dropped the ball but those kids are to blame too. they went there thinking their age group would not be stricken. turns out they seem to be wrong about that original projection for that age group. i have to imagine that young adults here are more obese than their chinese counterparts. oh, that and vaping probably is another factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I now see the problem we are having. You trust the spin and I don't. Pretty simple. Remember impeachment? John Bolton etc? The hysteria? Lots of media generated hysterics over the past 4 years or so and none have panned out in their favor. Just my opinion and I pay close attention... I am sure for the most part you can guess. The media enjoys hype and eyeballs and power. After what I have witnessed the past 12 years or so I can't believe anything they say. As I said enjoy the hype while I get on with my life... People are dying and you think it won't affect you? Unless you are in a hermetically sealed container, you are in danger. Why is it that everything is a conspiracy to take down Trump? Logic would tell you that is nonsensical, everything that happens is not about him. He's supposed to be our Leader and steer the Country through these rough times. Instead he acts like a child and says everybody is being mean to me. You obviously have your mind made up and that makes me sad that you would be so callous to dismiss what is happening all around you. I'm very dismayed to see someone I like be brainwashed. I don't know what else to call it, the refusal to accept anything that collides with your world view is very disturbing.Yeah, Italy just called in the military to enforce the lockdown. I guess that is just another ploy to remove Trump. Don't you people who keep saying this stuff realize how ridiculous you sound? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 my temperature is 100.1 now, i have a splitting headache, ive been coughing, and im short of breath from my chest being tight. im gonna try to make an appointment to get tested tomorrow morning. Get tested if you can. My thoughts are with you. This thing is spreading like wildfire. 1000 new infections today in NYC. I predict there will be a 14 day mandatory lockdown shelter in place for every American. The National Guard has already been alerted. GOOD LUCK! STAY INSIDE YOUR HOMES!!!!!!i hope they dont pull their BS and tell me that i can only be tested if i've had direct contact with someone who has it. im a cashier, i touch money all day, how the hell would i know if a customer had it or not!Hi Jamie, I hope you are feeling okay. It would be nice if you could check in and give an update as I am worried about you as I'm sure many others are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. I think other than a crowd of moronic spreak breakers on beaches, we *are* all coming together and doing that. But anytime it's suggested that what's happening in the world isn't really happening because we're all zombies controlled by media, a discussion is bound to turn political. That's what dictators count on. I was shocked to hear that the beaches in Florida were still opened up until a few days ago. I figured that was going to be one of the first things shut down when the government restrictions started up last week.They only closed one beach in Florida as of yesterday, all of the rest were opened. I do not know if they closed any today. My sister has lived in St. Pete Beach for many years. The counties have had to do things individually because the governor has not done much until today. Today, many of the counties are closing their beaches and the governor announced all bars and restaurants closed except for take out. Bars and restaurants opened only for takeout and delivery was ordered in our state last week. It's amazing how behind on things Florida is considering a lot of their citizens are older and retired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 If it's in US, we won't know . . . still very little testing! There's over 4000 confirmed cases in 49 states. It's definitely here and certainly should be a concern but it's not time for a full on panic yet. They're taking the proper measures I believe in the limitations they've made in my state when it comes to big get togethers. It's gonna be different for a while but we'll get back to some normalcy soon enough. I think people are overreacting over here actually. At least it doesn't make total sense why everything's shutting down indefinitely for this one, but Swine Flu and Bird Flu and Sars and Ebola and ever other major health scare of the past 20 years didn't have half this effect. But oh well, people overreacting is probably what will keep the US from winding up like China in this mess... Most of us do not have to worry but the elderly and sick people do. We have to quarantine ourselves so it does not keep spreading and infecting them. When people first started dying in Seattle they said 24 people had died but 18 of them were from the same Nursing home. That is what people don't get, anyone can be a carrier without symptoms and then they spread it around to others. The flattening the curve effect is to keep the numbers down so our hospitals won't be overrun. That's why we needed our government to pay attention and not blow if off like it was nothing. We are fighting against a wave that started weeks ago but we just didn't know it because of the lack of testing capability. This isn't something we can just ignore, we are all in it together. This is uncharted territory and we need to work together or we sink together. As for the comment that Ebola wasn't as bad, that is completely wrong. It killed 50 percent of the people who got it. We also had a Pandemic Task Force that went to West Africa to help fight the disease there. In March 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported an outbreak of Ebola virus disease in the West African country of Guinea. Additional cases have since been reported in the countries of Liberia and Sierra Leone, as well as Nigeria and Senegal. To date, there have been more than 22,500 reported Ebola cases in West Africa, with more than 8,900 deaths. At home, U.S. medical teams have treated 12 Ebola patients — all but two recovered. Since the start of the outbreak, the United States has sent more than 3,000 DOD, CDC, USAID, and other U.S. health officials to Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea to assist with response efforts, as part of a 10,000-person U.S.-backed civilian response. With their help, the U.S. government has:Constructed 15 Ebola treatment units in the regionProvided more than 400 metric tons of personal protective equipment and other medical and relief suppliesOperated more than 190 burial teams in the regionConducted aggressive contact tracing to identify chains of transmissionTrained health care workers and conducted community outreachWorked with international partners to identify travelers who may have Ebola before they leave the regionThanks to their efforts, and the work of countless others from around the world, the number of people who are contracting Ebola has declined sharply from peak levels. So what have we done this time? Pretend it doesn't exist, wish it away despite the evidence of massive deaths. Let large numbers of Chinese come to the U.S. BEFORE we closed our borders. By then it was too late. Maybe our Pandemic Task Force could have helped go to China to see what was going on and help but oh yeah someone canned the whole group in 2018. We have been put at risk by bungling and fumbling from the get go. Test kits made here in U.S.were defective, we could have had free tests given to us by the WHO but no we couldn't do that. So they try to get test kits to Americans but it is 3 weeks since they promised 1 Million would be made available. People are dying because of this inept response. People are scared because they can't trust the government to do its job professionally and in a timely manner. So it has been left to the local Mayors, Governors and their health departments to fix it but it is too big for them to do alone. This is why some people are panicking and buying everything in sight, it gives them some sense of control but of course it doesn't really help. People who really need food can't get it because the crazies have bought it all up.Yes, I am upset and I am doing all I can to be careful and look out for those I can but I don't understand all the denial that this is no big deal, it has the potential to cause millions of deaths. I just hope that is wrong but better to err on the side of caution.Boy it's obvious where you get your "news" from and worse yet believe it. Enjoy... please tell us where you get your news from? we are all still waiting for your reply. i asked nicely too.I am sure for the most part you can guess. The media enjoys hype and eyeballs and power. After what I have witnessed the past 12 years or so I can't believe anything they say. As I said enjoy the hype while I get on with my life...You are just spewing nonsense. So many countries in the world are beginning to almost go on complete lock down and you believe the media has that kind of power? That is just ridiculous!I do. Hair on fire about everything with one large goal in mind and anyone paying attention can see it. Not gonna belabor the point but they form opinions on both sides. The worlds not coming to an end and this will pass when the people grow tired of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yeah, this isn't about the divide that politics can cause. This is about all of us coming together and doing what we can, however small that might be, to prevent the spread of this thing. Coming together, yet staying apart. Crazy times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I now see the problem we are having. You trust the spin and I don't. Pretty simple. Remember impeachment? John Bolton etc? The hysteria? Lots of media generated hysterics over the past 4 years or so and none have panned out in their favor. Just my opinion and I pay close attention... I am sure for the most part you can guess. The media enjoys hype and eyeballs and power. After what I have witnessed the past 12 years or so I can't believe anything they say. As I said enjoy the hype while I get on with my life... People are dying and you think it won't affect you? Unless you are in a hermetically sealed container, you are in danger. Why is it that everything is a conspiracy to take down Trump? Logic would tell you that is nonsensical, everything that happens is not about him. He's supposed to be our Leader and steer the Country through these rough times. Instead he acts like a child and says everybody is being mean to me. You obviously have your mind made up and that makes me sad that you would be so callous to dismiss what is happening all around you. I'm very dismayed to see someone I like be brainwashed. I don't know what else to call it, the refusal to accept anything that collides with your world view is very disturbing.Yeah, Italy just called in the military to enforce the lockdown. I guess that is just another ploy to remove Trump. Don't you people who keep saying this stuff realize how ridiculous you sound? Those stupid fukking celebs singing "Imagine" online. What a joke. Why don't these ultra liberal assholes start funding relief for humans less fortunate. This is a worldwide disaster no matter what anyone thinks. Wait until the military is called in to monitor every neighborhood and every city to make sure we are all on lockdown in our homes for at least 14 days. Go on millennials and spring break selfish morons! Go out and party! Get drunk! Have wild sex with everyone!!!! Keep "SPREADING THE DISEASE!!!!" Love, QUEENSRYCHE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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