Segue Myles Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I remember once getting annoyed when Mick referred to early Beatles as boy band music. But honestly? There have been boybands derided for having songs actually better than a lot of The Beatles early stuff. And there was great rock before during and after The Beatles...I feel like early Beatles blends with other music of the era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Actually, bands sell out when they sign a recording deal. They should keep playing bars. Or even better, playing in their basements for their buddies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Actually, bands sell out when they sign a recording deal. They should keep playing bars. Or even better, playing in their basements for their buddies. Those are the shows, man. The ones where nobody's there. THOSE ARE THE f***in SHOWS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 "selling out" doesn't mean "achieved fame and monetary success." selling out is making music with the sole intent of achieving fame and monetary success, and making music you don't want to make, making music the record company suggested you make. Like The Beatles when they first started.[ yowza. lol Mick but you see it doesn't count here.....the lads hated it. Did i get olld fan logic right. lol Mick I just find it fun to try and rile up anyone who thinks if you don't find every second of everything the Beatles recorded as the greatest thing ever than you know nothing about music. people can talk about pre-help beatles however they want. it's the stuff after that that's untouchable that being said, when they were playing shitholes in hamburg they probably sounded heavier than anything out there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) I remember once getting annoyed when Mick referred to early Beatles as boy band music. But honestly? There have been boybands derided for having songs actually better than a lot of The Beatles early stuff. And there was great rock before during and after The Beatles...I feel like early Beatles blends with other music of the era. i still kinda call it that. Great music but they attracted pre-pubescent and teenage girls.......60's boyband, lol and wrote cute scmaltzy tunes......they were damn good. but it's what they were. Mick Edited November 30, 2018 by bluefox4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums.OK. The Green Day dig of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. Yikes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. i don't agree. but i laughed. Hard Day's Night s better than any Green Day. ditto Help. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. i don't agree. but i laughed. Hard Day's Night s better than any Green Day. ditto Help. Mick I was referring to the run before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. i don't agree. but i laughed. Hard Day's Night s better than any Green Day. ditto Help. Mick I was referring to the run before that. oh to me early is like Please Please me to Help. but the dividing line is always up for debate, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. i don't agree. but i laughed. Hard Day's Night s better than any Green Day. ditto Help. Mick I was referring to the run before that. oh to me early is like Please Please me to Help. but the dividing line is always up for debate, lol Mick I love Help! Let's put it this way. I would take the entire Green Day discography over Sgt. Pepper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Beatles did sell out in the beginning. They changed their entire image. But calling them a boy band is as far from the truth as you can get. Green Day had a better run of early albums. i don't agree. but i laughed. Hard Day's Night s better than any Green Day. ditto Help. Mick I was referring to the run before that. oh to me early is like Please Please me to Help. but the dividing line is always up for debate, lol Mick I love Help! Let's put it this way. I would take the entire Green Day discography over Sgt. Pepper. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) Jim Morrison was an overweight, immature substance abuser that squeezed out a few decent songs and was very lucky to have Robby Krieger, John Densmore and Ray Manzarek to write for him or co write with him. :outtahere: :outtahere: I know many will disagree! :o Edited December 1, 2018 by blueschica 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Jim Morrison was an overweight, immature substance abuser that squeezed out a few decent songs and was very lucky to have Robby Krieger, John Densmore and Ray Manzarek to write for him or co write with him. :outtahere: :outtahere: I know many will disagree! :o I love the band and wished that were totally true but...their two albums without him suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Jim Morrison was an overweight, immature substance abuser that squeezed out a few decent songs and was very lucky to have Robby Krieger, John Densmore and Ray Manzarek to write for him or co write with him. :outtahere: :outtahere: I know many will disagree! :o I love the band and wished that were totally true but...their two albums without him suck I'm willing to give him a few props but I can't get with the total hero worship of some fans. But yeah, they had trouble focusing without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Morrison was a great poet, a great melody writer, and a legendary frontman. The band fizzled without him, despite their own incredible talent, they needed his creative spark. That said, overweight, immature, and substance abuser all seem like fair criticisms to me. Well, idk for sure about overweight, lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Morrison overweight? He took way too many drugs for that to be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Jim Morrison was an overweight, immature substance abuser that squeezed out a few decent songs and was very lucky to have Robby Krieger, John Densmore and Ray Manzarek to write for him or co write with him. :outtahere: :outtahere: I know many will disagree! :o I love the band and wished that were totally true but...their two albums without him suck I'm willing to give him a few props but I can't get with the total hero worship of some fans. But yeah, they had trouble focusing without him. I don't idolize the man. He was nothing special. His music with the band was. But that's why I revere the art not the artist. I admire creativity even if the person is despicable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Morrison was a great poet, a great melody writer, and a legendary frontman. The band fizzled without him, despite their own incredible talent, they needed his creative spark. That said, overweight, immature, and substance abuser all seem like fair criticisms to me. Well, idk for sure about overweight, lol That one puzzles me haha he was always skinny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Morrison was a great poet, a great melody writer, and a legendary frontman. The band fizzled without him, despite their own incredible talent, they needed his creative spark. That said, overweight, immature, and substance abuser all seem like fair criticisms to me. Well, idk for sure about overweight, lol That one puzzles me haha he was always skinny Maybe towards the end he got fat. To die at 27 from heart failure means he probably wasn't taking care of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Morrison was a great poet, a great melody writer, and a legendary frontman. The band fizzled without him, despite their own incredible talent, they needed his creative spark. That said, overweight, immature, and substance abuser all seem like fair criticisms to me. Well, idk for sure about overweight, lol That one puzzles me haha he was always skinny Maybe towards the end he got fat. To die at 27 from heart failure means he probably wasn't taking care of himself. From what I heard the coroner never gave a cause of death. Something about French law at the time that allowed them to just pronounce him dead and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 he did get fat around the end of the doors. heavy drinking and eating tacos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Morrison was a great poet, a great melody writer, and a legendary frontman. The band fizzled without him, despite their own incredible talent, they needed his creative spark. That said, overweight, immature, and substance abuser all seem like fair criticisms to me. Well, idk for sure about overweight, lol That one puzzles me haha he was always skinny Maybe towards the end he got fat. To die at 27 from heart failure means he probably wasn't taking care of himself. From what I heard the coroner never gave a cause of death. Something about French law at the time that allowed them to just pronounce him dead and move on. Yeah, there were a lot of different theories; this article has most of them. It didn't help that the only person with him, his girlfriend Pam, died less than 3 years later. https://allthatsinteresting.com/jim-morrison-death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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