JARG Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)So did my sister but she didn't come up for air until 1/1/65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irenicus Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;) PW was made in 1979 and released in 1980. Oh well. In my mind it's not an 80's album. MP is. Once Neil chopped off his fukking hair the Seventies came to an end. JMO Irenius! NICE AVATAR! "A Clockwork Orange" blows "Clockwork Angels" away!!! Signed, "Singing In The Rain" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;)She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Where was Permanent Waves released on January 14th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 January 14 must be the Mercury release date. Since I got into Rush in 1980 I have repeatedly read that January 1, 1980 was the release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZ Working Man Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The stars over Morin Heights must have been perfectly alligned Late 79/80 to create this gem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgittes Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 As JARG pointed out earlier, this was the "transition" album where Rush "abandoned" their messages steeped in Sci-fi themes and began a more direct path of what they wanted to say. I remember getting into my, dare I admit I ever owned one, Ford Maverick, one Saturday in mid-January, starting the engine and hearing SOR on the AM radio(I know for you youngsters it sounds like a made-up fantasy that low-end cars had AM only!!) I was shocked, saddened, and even upset that Rush changed. "WTF?" might have applied but that word wasn't invented yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I thought it was released on January 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 As JARG pointed out earlier, this was the "transition" album where Rush "abandoned" their messages steeped in Sci-fi themes and began a more direct path of what they wanted to say. I remember getting into my, dare I admit I ever owned one, Ford Maverick, one Saturday in mid-January, starting the engine and hearing SOR on the AM radio(I know for you youngsters it sounds like a made-up fantasy that low-end cars had AM only!!) I was shocked, saddened, and even upset that Rush changed. "WTF?" might have applied but that word wasn't invented yet.Maverick Grabber with a small block V8??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgittes Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Maverick Grabber with a small block V8??? Woh, nice memory, JohnRorgers. No Grabber for me, my dad believed the cops would bust me in that "fancy" model. Had to settle for all white but, get ready for this-a vinyl roof!! Funny enough I got about 6+ years out of that thing. Might have driven it longer but couldn't pass up the chance to "upgrade(?)" to a Honda Civic hatchback. Edited January 18, 2016 by jjgittes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irenicus Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;)She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.Well, Permanent Waves was made public already in 1979 as was often stated. Promotional copies were sent out to journalists, some songs were played on radio or live in concert, some stores already sold the album shortly before release date... So yeah, that whole point is void too. No matter how you turn it around, PW is clearly a creation of the 70s. Even if you argue about how the songwriting sounds, only TSOR and maybe Freewill could be argued as being somewhat 80s like, which is not even half of the album. But then, just because something is ahead of its time, doesn't mean it doesn't "belong" to its time anymore. And release dates are irrelevant, especially since they are almost always determined by the labels and not the band. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;)She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.Well, Permanent Waves was made public already in 1979 as was often stated. Promotional copies were sent out to journalists, some songs were played on radio or live in concert, some stores already sold the album shortly before release date... So yeah, that whole point is void too. No matter how you turn it around, PW is clearly a creation of the 70s. Even if you argue about how the songwriting sounds, only TSOR and maybe Freewill could be argued as being somewhat 80s like, which is not even half of the album. But then, just because something is ahead of its time, doesn't mean it doesn't "belong" to its time anymore. And release dates are irrelevant, especially since they are almost always determined by the labels and not the band. Good stuff. What date would you recommend as PW's "birthday"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;)She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.It's quite simple...like baking cookies. Before it comes out of the oven, it's just batter in some form. When it comes out of the oven, it's a cookie. Edited January 18, 2016 by 2112FirstStreet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irenicus Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Good stuff. What date would you recommend as PW's "birthday"?The day it was first sent out to anyone outside of the band/producer/managment, be it journalists, pressing plant, radio stations etc. In other words the day it was finished and delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Good stuff. What date would you recommend as PW's "birthday"?The day it was first sent out to anyone outside of the band/producer/managment, be it journalists, pressing plant, radio stations etc. In other words the day it was finished and delivered.Which was? And while you're working on that, what dates should we use to celebrate the other releases? Edited January 18, 2016 by JARG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th. My daughter physically existed before her birthday. ;)But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979. ;)She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.It's quite simple...like baking cookies. Before it comes out of the oven, it's just batter in some form. When it comes out of the oven, it's a cookie.Right even if the cookies at the Kebbler factory leave on trucks for stores four days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irenicus Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Which was? And while you're working on that, what dates should we use to celebrate other releases?We don't know that date obviously.You're just too worked up with that whole analogy thing, seriously. Albums aren't given birth to, so they don't have birthdays. It's not even a very good analogy. We can of course very well celebrate an album on its release date in case of desperate necessity for celebration, since that is the only official date we have, but it's really just a random day chosen by some random people behind a desk, not even compareable to birthdays which aren't chosen but just happen when they happen. Also, if release dates are like birthdays, then I guess albums have more than one birthday considering that release dates aren't the same everywhere. Like in Germany, we usually get albums on Fridays, 4 days before you guys across the pond do. So the whole analogy makes even less sense than it already does. Edited January 18, 2016 by Irenicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsonmistymemory Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) I love love love Permenant Waves! It was the 1st Rush album I had to go and buy when it was released. I had heard Rush music on the radio prior but this album made me sit up and take notice!Happy Birthday (belated) Permenant Waves. :rush::Alex: :Neil: :geddy: Edited January 18, 2016 by Crimsonmistymemory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 While everyone is debating what decade PW belongs to what about albums that take decades to make and what decade do they belong to for instance Chinese Democracy apart from being a pile of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Which was? And while you're working on that, what dates should we use to celebrate other releases?We don't know that date obviously.You're just too worked up with that whole analogy thing, seriously. Says the person who has worked very hard to bust the analogy. It may well be the case you've written more words trying to bust it than I have to defend it! Edited January 18, 2016 by JARG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Permanent Waves is a 70s album, but if folks want to give it a birthday, that's cool I guess. But if it's not going to get presents, I don't see the point. I have a birthday, but as near as I can make out, the only thing it's really good for is presents and cake. Since I think I have enough junk in my life, I don't really care about getting more presents. (I enjoy giving them, though.) And I can have cake anytime. Who needs an excuse for friggin' cake??* Therefore, I don't really feel the need to have a birthday anymore.Therefore, Permanent Waves is a 70s album. * "friggin'" in this context is an adjective, not a verb Edited January 18, 2016 by toymaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Permanent Waves is a 70s album, but if folks want to give it a birthday, that's cool I guess. I suspect there are fans who like to celebrate the release dates of all the Rush albums. That they call that the album's birthday is fine by me. Hell, it even seems completely appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irenicus Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Says the person who has worked very hard to bust the analogy. It may well be the case you've written more words trying to bust it than I have to defend it! I was just playing along man. But obviously even in the game of analogies you 80s guys run out of arguments quickly, if you ever had any good ones to begin with. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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