fraroc Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) According to the RationalWiki, "No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing." The question I'm trying to ask is that based on the quote I posted, does this fallacy apply to some members of the Rush fanbase, including myself? I'd honestly say yes, it does. I feel like during the whole Neil Retirement Resentment Saga that just occurred, I feel like there was quite a bit of this stuff going on. "You're not a real Rush fan if you support Neil's retirement/don't support Neil's retirement." And of course, I will admit I was guilty of the second one during that whole mess. I don't want to fight. I don't want to argue or yell at anybody, I just want to ask this question. Does this logical fallacy apply to what happened? Or better yet, if there is another fallacy I'm not aware of, does it apply or not? Edited October 30, 2015 by fraroc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 You are not supposed to mention the Scottish Fallacy***Puts hex on you*** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 It applies to every Rush fan, all the time. No True Rush Fan Should Like "The Garden." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 You are not supposed to mention the Scottish Fallacy***Puts hex on you*** **gives the sign of the horns** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I've seen people use the Appeal to Majority fallacy. "If all these fans think this, you can't be right" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 If it is a fallacy, wouldn't by definition mean that it's false? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 If it is a fallacy, wouldn't by definition mean that it's false? Either that or it means the argument becomes null and void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bard Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Above and beyond what a fanbase desires, perceives, or believes to be known... A man retires from a career in the spotlight after a long and prosperous and wondrous contribution to world culture. Legacy assured. Does not care what public opinion asserts thereafter. Focuses on family and well being. The end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnEggplant Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Above and beyond what a fanbase desires, perceives, or believes to be known... A man retires from a career in the spotlight after a long and prosperous and wondrous contribution to world culture. Legacy assured. Does not care what public opinion asserts thereafter. Focuses on family and well being. The end. Very much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I don't know. It's a slippery slope but I'll save my ad hominem attack on you for another time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I don't know. It's a slippery slope but I'll save my ad hominem attack on you for another time.Ok. Mr. Tu quoque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) I don't know. It's a slippery slope but I'll save my ad hominem attack on you for another time. O RLY Edited October 31, 2015 by fraroc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I don't know. It's a slippery slope but I'll save my ad hominem attack on you for another time.Ok. Mr. Tu quoque You can call me Venn Diesel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I don't know. It's a slippery slope but I'll save my ad hominem attack on you for another time. O RLY If it's not Scottish it's CRAP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Scot? Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Scot? Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must. Best fallacy ever in cinema history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djflex Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I voted other... I have no idea what this thread is about , really But i have the attention span of a gnat. Felt compelled to vote tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 According to the RationalWiki, "No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing." The question I'm trying to ask is that based on the quote I posted, does this fallacy apply to some members of the Rush fanbase, including myself? I'd honestly say yes, it does. I feel like during the whole Neil Retirement Resentment Saga that just occurred, I feel like there was quite a bit of this stuff going on. "You're not a real Rush fan if you support Neil's retirement/don't support Neil's retirement." And of course, I will admit I was guilty of the second one during that whole mess. I don't want to fight. I don't want to argue or yell at anybody, I just want to ask this question. Does this logical fallacy apply to what happened? Or better yet, if there is another fallacy I'm not aware of, does it apply or not? I'm very sorry. I am an educated man and I am filled with wit, puns and metal knowledge. I don't understand this thread.First time for me. I just don't get it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I like Nessie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 According to the RationalWiki, "No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing." The question I'm trying to ask is that based on the quote I posted, does this fallacy apply to some members of the Rush fanbase, including myself? I'd honestly say yes, it does. I feel like during the whole Neil Retirement Resentment Saga that just occurred, I feel like there was quite a bit of this stuff going on. "You're not a real Rush fan if you support Neil's retirement/don't support Neil's retirement." And of course, I will admit I was guilty of the second one during that whole mess. I don't want to fight. I don't want to argue or yell at anybody, I just want to ask this question. Does this logical fallacy apply to what happened? Or better yet, if there is another fallacy I'm not aware of, does it apply or not? I'm very sorry. I am an educated man and I am filled with wit, puns and metal knowledge. I don't understand this thread.First time for me. I just don't get it. Well...I'm an idiot, and I don't get it either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I like Nessie I like her too! I like Tahoe Tessie. There is no water in Lake Tahoe. Sightings of her have been hard to find though because they can't get boats into the water. All the docks are on dry land. "Dry Land" Isn't that a Marillion song? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 According to the RationalWiki, "No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing." The question I'm trying to ask is that based on the quote I posted, does this fallacy apply to some members of the Rush fanbase, including myself? I'd honestly say yes, it does. I feel like during the whole Neil Retirement Resentment Saga that just occurred, I feel like there was quite a bit of this stuff going on. "You're not a real Rush fan if you support Neil's retirement/don't support Neil's retirement." And of course, I will admit I was guilty of the second one during that whole mess. I don't want to fight. I don't want to argue or yell at anybody, I just want to ask this question. Does this logical fallacy apply to what happened? Or better yet, if there is another fallacy I'm not aware of, does it apply or not? I'm very sorry. I am an educated man and I am filled with wit, puns and metal knowledge. I don't understand this thread.First time for me. I just don't get it. Well...I'm an idiot, and I don't get it either. We are idiots together. No comprende amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Lent's sis Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Only a true Rush fan would post something like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Second edit. Maybe. Edited October 31, 2015 by Rutlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I would bet that a whole host of fallacies, when applied to any online forum, would likely apply. Hmmm...perhaps I can come up with a new one, myself. I could call it the Stone the Narcissist Fallacy, or something. :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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