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I learned today that Permanent Waves is a hot button on whether it's an 80's or 70's album. I'm right at home here, ya friggin nerds Bahahahaha!

 

yep i am proud member of the "of course its an 80's album" crowd. I've always thought it significant they did that, am sure it was planned.

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I don't know much but I do know if I see this "Final Countdown" commercial one more time I may do something drastic. Geezo...

 

I wonder how many members are original? I seem to recall some blonde hair members in that band and I don't see any in the commercial. They are milking that one hit for all it's worth.... It is a funny commercial, but after the 100th time.....not so much.

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Just before I start I'd just say that I listened to 70s Rush stuff but it didn't really float my boat until Moving Pictures was released which completely converted me, the introduction of heavily involved synthesizers which was like bringing in a fourth band member not forgetting some innovative electronic percussion especially on Signals meant the 80s was the decade of collectively the most popular Rush Albums. Rush brought in a specialist keyboard player when they recorded Power Windows because of the complexity of doing this with 3 band members, saw an interview with Geddy Lee where he said when playing the PW numbers live they had to use some of the material from backstage floppy discs, didn't detract from the shows though as Lee always played the keyboards himself it just wasn't possible to cram everything in.

As far as these Albums detracting Alex Lifesons role are concerned this inspired him to raise his game to compete with the new sound and probably most of his best guitar solos were left in this decade, I don't know how many must have been 30 or 40 of them sadly his last proper guitar solos were non existent after Role The Bones. All my favourite Rush songs involve great guitar solos.

Don't class Permanent Waves as an 80s Album even if it officially is because of the release date, Caravan was made in about 2010 but it is classed as a 2012 song because of it's Albums release date. Permanent Waves is stylistically 70s not 80s.

 

Moving Pictures- The first in line of the great 80s Albums, Rush becoming more appealing to pop fans a good thing.

 

Signals-Pure excellence how can anyone not like Chemistry a very addictive guitar solo? And The Weapon is awesome.

 

Grace Under Pressure- A truly sombre and emotive creation heavy use of syths here but did't spoil it, was made how it was meant to be made, Kid Gloves and Between the wheels are two of my favourites.

 

Power Windows- Still wrestling with my conscience as to what my favourite Album is this or Signals? Grand Designs though is top 5 for me though never have got bored with that in 30 years still play it every week even if I don't play the Album and Emotion Detector little talked about but an absolute gem.

 

Hold Your Fire-Hold Your Fire haters look away now! This is a masterful creation of beautiful guitar solos and inspiring use of keyboards which combine to harmonize a mix of brilliantly written songs, 3 top numbers are Open Secrets, Lock And Key and Prime Mover, oh and I love Tai Shan.

 

Presto- The Beginning of the end. Signs here that the a different direction was starting to take shape it's still pretty good though but embedded in the shadows of the previous releases.

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The decade opened with the '80's-styled a-side of a collection of sobering '70's compositions, and a riff rendered entirely new, followed eventually by a synth-copation that ushered in the chorus that might announce, even if only in retrospect, that Rush could simultaneously create and follow a trend. The Spirit of Radio was alive and well, even if my album's preferred fave has, as natural as science, feet firmly in the decade it was put to tape.

 

Moving along, on a personal level from an emotional perspective, The Camera Eye would find me — again, if only in retrospect, which pictures are wont to affect — increasingly under the internally incoherent realization that, in spite of a minuscule sense of limelight with which I'd type "yyz" in the top scores section of the game at the supermarket, I didn't know which hunt I was on, or where my life was headed...

 

Still grim faced and forbidding, this fringe of the city dwelling analog kid 'd be made fully aware how The Weapon was at once the fear of its being used against us, while in reality it was being employed against so many others.

 

With high school headed toward a close, the uncertainty of life ratcheted up out of control, the grace relented under pressure. You know how it feels, rushing under speeding wheels? As a gen-x'er, I'd be too clever kin to another lost generation in spite of the distant early warning of what it would some day be like to look back ruefully at the faded afterimage of a path not taken. I'm afraid I saw the world through Red Lenses.

 

Like big money in search in vain of a soul, I went around the world with an emotional detector set to Marathon mode, if only to justify my middletown dreams being of how things might have been in spite of the awareness that it wasn't over yet (when I watched the challenger disaster, live, in full cold war mode, my first thought was not of the humans in that burning shell, but hearkened back to the last song on the penultimate album of my high school years).

 

The songs remained constant while the territories changed. So much went right by me. Some of these feelings were in fact learned as a child. It ought to have been second nature, but, alas, the Open Secrets informed me, hands down, that time would not stand still, on the one hand, and that I would turn the page only by default.

 

Presto. Another city. The sixth since the decade 'd began. Another segment of life whose last retrospective lesson would sink in, perhaps always known, that even the mirror always lies. I know all-too well now that I was to show, not tell. But the pass, it passes and the 80s remain a bittersweet fading memory, the access to which, via this music, for good or ill, I will cherish. The Scars have it.

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Permanent Waves - Natural Science

Moving Pictures - The Camera Eye

Signals - Every single second. (just listen to the new vinyl reissue, it sounds absolutely FANTASTIC. Major improvement over the original vinyl).

Grace Under Pressure - Kid GLoves

Power Windows - the synth solo thing in Middletown Dreams

Hold Your Fire - Lock and Key

Presto - Hand Over Fist (especially the solo!)

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Permanent Waves - Flawless

Moving Pictures - Peerless

Signals - It's better than Grace Under Pressure

Grace Under Pressure - It's better than Power Windows

Power Windows - It's not overlong.

Hold Your Fire - better than having your nuts removed with a rusty saw.

Presto - marginally better than eating your own entrails.

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Permanent Waves - Natural Science

Moving Pictures - The Camera Eye

Signals - Every single second. (just listen to the new vinyl reissue, it sounds absolutely FANTASTIC. Major improvement over the original vinyl).

Grace Under Pressure - Kid GLoves

Power Windows - the synth solo thing in Middletown Dreams

Hold Your Fire - Lock and Key

Presto - Hand Over Fist (especially the solo!)

 

We're fellow Lock And Key fans! So you'd recommend the vinyl reissues? I'm on the fence about them just because I never heard much difference between the originals and and Rush Remasters series back in the 90's, but I'll check em out!

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The decade opened with the '80's-styled a-side of a collection of sobering '70's compositions, and a riff rendered entirely new, followed eventually by a synth-copation that ushered in the chorus that might announce, even if only in retrospect, that Rush could simultaneously create and follow a trend. The Spirit of Radio was alive and well, even if my album's preferred fave has, as natural as science, feet firmly in the decade it was put to tape.

 

Moving along, on a personal level from an emotional perspective, The Camera Eye would find me — again, if only in retrospect, which pictures are wont to affect — increasingly under the internally incoherent realization that, in spite of a minuscule sense of limelight with which I'd type "yyz" in the top scores section of the game at the supermarket, I didn't know which hunt I was on, or where my life was headed...

 

Still grim faced and forbidding, this fringe of the city dwelling analog kid 'd be made fully aware how The Weapon was at once the fear of its being used against us, while in reality it was being employed against so many others.

 

With high school headed toward a close, the uncertainty of life ratcheted up out of control, the grace relented under pressure. You know how it feels, rushing under speeding wheels? As a gen-x'er, I'd be too clever kin to another lost generation in spite of the distant early warning of what it would some day be like to look back ruefully at the faded afterimage of a path not taken. I'm afraid I saw the world through Red Lenses.

 

Like big money in search in vain of a soul, I went around the world with an emotional detector set to Marathon mode, if only to justify my middletown dreams being of how things might have been in spite of the awareness that it wasn't over yet (when I watched the challenger disaster, live, in full cold war mode, my first thought was not of the humans in that burning shell, but hearkened back to the last song on the penultimate album of my high school years).

 

The songs remained constant while the territories changed. So much went right by me. Some of these feelings were in fact learned as a child. It ought to have been second nature, but, alas, the Open Secrets informed me, hands down, that time would not stand still, on the one hand, and that I would turn the page only by default.

 

Presto. Another city. The sixth since the decade 'd began. Another segment of life whose last retrospective lesson would sink in, perhaps always known, that even the mirror always lies. I know all-too well now that I was to show, not tell. But the pass, it passes and the 80s remain a bittersweet fading memory, the access to which, via this music, for good or ill, I will cherish. The Scars have it.

 

This is beautiful. Thank you. Rush truly is the soundtrack to many of our lives. You've inspired me to write a similar story.

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Hold Your Fire - better than having your nuts removed with a rusty saw.

Presto - marginally better than eating your own entrails.

:LMAO: Damn I needed that. Thanks brother... :cheers:
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Why does everybody keep saying PW is a 70's album? If it was released in the 80's it's an 80's album in my book.

It was recorded in the 1970s and the first song releases from the album were made in the 70s. How could people hear a 1980s album in the 1970s?

 

MP was recorded in 1980 so we must say MP is from 1980 and not 1981,

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Back to the 80s ;)

 

My favorites:

 

Permanent Waves - Natural Science

Moving Pictures - The Camera Eye

Signals - The Analog Kid

Grace Under Pressure - Between The Wheels

Power Windows - Middletown Dreams

Hold Your Fire - Open Secrets

Presto - Available Light

 

Nice! Any thoughts on favorites from Exit Stage Left and Show Of Hands?

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I learned today that Permanent Waves is a hot button on whether it's an 80's or 70's album. I'm right at home here, ya friggin nerds Bahahahaha!

 

yep i am proud member of the "of course its an 80's album" crowd. I've always thought it significant they did that, am sure it was planned.

 

To me, Permanent Waves perfectly straddles the two decades. A perfect mixture of what was and what was to be with the 80's stuff.

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I learned today that Permanent Waves is a hot button on whether it's an 80's or 70's album. I'm right at home here, ya friggin nerds Bahahahaha!

 

yep i am proud member of the "of course its an 80's album" crowd. I've always thought it significant they did that, am sure it was planned.

 

To me, Permanent Waves perfectly straddles the two decades. A perfect mixture of what was and what was to be with the 80's stuff.

 

I agree. I feel like every album has moments that point to what will come on the next one, and moments that point to what came before.

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I learned today that Permanent Waves is a hot button on whether it's an 80's or 70's album. I'm right at home here, ya friggin nerds Bahahahaha!

 

yep i am proud member of the "of course its an 80's album" crowd. I've always thought it significant they did that, am sure it was planned.

 

To me, Permanent Waves perfectly straddles the two decades. A perfect mixture of what was and what was to be with the 80's stuff.

 

I agree. I feel like every album has moments that point to what will come on the next one, and moments that point to what came before.

 

That's one of the many reasons I love this band so much. They are ever evolving. You may not have liked their choices but eventually like Neil said they do correct themselves.

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Regarding Permanent Waves.. did something happen on Jan 01 1980 that changed how we define music?? Relax, It's just a classic old Rush album.. Edited by MMCXII
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Permanent Waves- THE WHOLE DAMN THING IS AWESOME!

 

Moving Pictures- Ditto, but to my ears Red Barchetta, Limelight, The Camera Eye and Witch Hunt are the best.

 

Signals- Meh. Give me The Weapon and Losing It. Oh, and Countdown. Pass on the rest.

 

Grace Under Pressure- All varying degrees of awesome going on here! Red Sector A, Distant Early Warning and The Body Electric are my favourites.

 

Power Windows- Beautiful, this is like PeW, a constantly overlooked classic (by me at least). Grand Designs, Marathon and Mystic Rhythms are the best here.

 

Hold Your Fire- Perfect! But Second Nature, Open Secret, Turn The Page and Tai Shan are my favourites!

 

Presto- Almost as strong as HYF, Chain Lightning and Available Light are my extreme favourites. The title track and Show Don't Tell (and of course The Pass) follow close behind.

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Permanent Waves - Natural Science

Moving Pictures - YYZ

Signals - Digital Man

Grace Under Pressure - The Body Electric

Power Windows - Middletown Dreams

Hold Your Fire - Turn The Page

Presto - Show Don't Tell

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The decade opened with the '80's-styled a-side of a collection of sobering '70's compositions, and a riff rendered entirely new, followed eventually by a synth-copation that ushered in the chorus that might announce, even if only in retrospect, that Rush could simultaneously create and follow a trend. The Spirit of Radio was alive and well, even if my album's preferred fave has, as natural as science, feet firmly in the decade it was put to tape.

 

Moving along, on a personal level from an emotional perspective, The Camera Eye would find me — again, if only in retrospect, which pictures are wont to affect — increasingly under the internally incoherent realization that, in spite of a minuscule sense of limelight with which I'd type "yyz" in the top scores section of the game at the supermarket, I didn't know which hunt I was on, or where my life was headed...

 

Still grim faced and forbidding, this fringe of the city dwelling analog kid'd be made fully aware how The Weapon was at once the fear of its being used against us, while in reality it was being employed against so many others.

 

With high school headed toward a close, the uncertainty of life ratcheted up out of control, the grace relented under pressure. You know how it feels, rushing under speeding wheels? As a gen-x'er, I'd be too clever kin to another lost generation in spite of the distant early warning of what it would some day be like to look back ruefully at the faded afterimage of a path not taken. I'm afraid I saw the world through Red Lenses.

 

Like big money in search in vain of a soul, I went around the world with an emotional detector set to Marathon mode, if only to justify my middletown dreams being of how things might have been in spite of the awareness that it wasn't over yet (when I watched the challenger disaster, live, in full cold war mode, my first thought was not of the humans in that burning shell, but hearkened back to the last song on the penultimate album of my high school years).

 

The songs remained constant while the territories changed. So much went right by me. Some of these feelings were in fact learned as a child. It ought to have been second nature, but, alas, the Open Secrets informed me, hands down, that time would not stand still, on the one hand, and that I would turn the page only by default.

 

Presto. Another city. The sixth since the decade'd began. Another segment of life whose last retrospective lesson would sink in, perhaps always known, that even the mirror always lies. I know all-too well now that I was to show, not tell. But the pass, it passes and the 80s remain a bittersweet fading memory, the access to which, via this music, for good or ill, I will cherish. The Scars have it.

You are a talented writer!

 

:yes:

 

Welcome to TRF!

 

ETA: Cool avatar, too.

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The decade opened with the '80's-styled a-side of a collection of sobering '70's compositions, and a riff rendered entirely new, followed eventually by a synth-copation that ushered in the chorus that might announce, even if only in retrospect, that Rush could simultaneously create and follow a trend. The Spirit of Radio was alive and well, even if my album's preferred fave has, as natural as science, feet firmly in the decade it was put to tape.

 

Moving along, on a personal level from an emotional perspective, The Camera Eye would find me — again, if only in retrospect, which pictures are wont to affect — increasingly under the internally incoherent realization that, in spite of a minuscule sense of limelight with which I'd type "yyz" in the top scores section of the game at the supermarket, I didn't know which hunt I was on, or where my life was headed...

 

Still grim faced and forbidding, this fringe of the city dwelling analog kid'd be made fully aware how The Weapon was at once the fear of its being used against us, while in reality it was being employed against so many others.

 

With high school headed toward a close, the uncertainty of life ratcheted up out of control, the grace relented under pressure. You know how it feels, rushing under speeding wheels? As a gen-x'er, I'd be too clever kin to another lost generation in spite of the distant early warning of what it would some day be like to look back ruefully at the faded afterimage of a path not taken. I'm afraid I saw the world through Red Lenses.

 

Like big money in search in vain of a soul, I went around the world with an emotional detector set to Marathon mode, if only to justify my middletown dreams being of how things might have been in spite of the awareness that it wasn't over yet (when I watched the challenger disaster, live, in full cold war mode, my first thought was not of the humans in that burning shell, but hearkened back to the last song on the penultimate album of my high school years).

 

The songs remained constant while the territories changed. So much went right by me. Some of these feelings were in fact learned as a child. It ought to have been second nature, but, alas, the Open Secrets informed me, hands down, that time would not stand still, on the one hand, and that I would turn the page only by default.

 

Presto. Another city. The sixth since the decade'd began. Another segment of life whose last retrospective lesson would sink in, perhaps always known, that even the mirror always lies. I know all-too well now that I was to show, not tell. But the pass, it passes and the 80s remain a bittersweet fading memory, the access to which, via this music, for good or ill, I will cherish. The Scars have it.

 

This is beautiful. Thank you. Rush truly is the soundtrack to many of our lives. You've inspired me to write a similar story.

 

You are a talented writer! :yes: Welcome to TRF! ETA: Cool avatar, too.

 

Thank you, Test for Echo! To've inspired someone adds the ultimate value to my having bothered to contribute that much effort.

Thank you, goose! I come here in clusters and should visit more often.

BTW: my avatar is what someone graffiti'd on a big open wall in my neighborhood. It was so remarkable I had to take a photo of it. I probably used it as an avatar because I thought of myself ambiguously as running after and/or running from.

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Permanent Waves - Freewill

Moving Pictures - Red Barchetta

Signals - Subdivisions

Grace Under Pressure - Tough one... Distant Early Warning

Power Windows - Mystic Rhythms

Hold Your Fire - High Water. Seriously.

Presto - Another tough one...Available Light

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Back to the 80s ;)

 

My favorites:

 

Permanent Waves - Natural Science

Moving Pictures - The Camera Eye

Signals - The Analog Kid

Grace Under Pressure - Between The Wheels

Power Windows - Middletown Dreams

Hold Your Fire - Open Secrets

Presto - Available Light

 

Nice! Any thoughts on favorites from Exit Stage Left and Show Of Hands?

 

ESL - A Passage To Bangkok

ASOH - Turn The Page

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Why does everybody keep saying PW is a 70's album? If it was released in the 80's it's an 80's album in my book.

It was recorded in the 1970s and the first song releases from the album were made in the 70s. How could people hear a 1980s album in the 1970s?

 

MP was recorded in 1980 so we must say MP is from 1980 and not 1981,

Maybe we should start doing that then, MP is a product of 1980, released in 1981. Permanent Waves in every way is from the 70s, just released in 1980. Edited by Geddy's Soul Patch
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Permanent Waves - Natural Science

Moving Pictures - The Camera Eye

Signals - Analog Kid

Grace Under Pressure - The Enemy Within

Power Windows - Big Money

Hold Your Fire - Force Ten

Presto - Chain Lightning

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