JohnRogers Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 I was on board till you started hating on HYF. Some day when this planet is a planet of apes an ancient astronaut will find HYF in the ruins of the city. The truth will be revealed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bard Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I don't think there are any more keyboards on Signals than there are on Moving Pictures, just the production is different. Yeah I don't quite get that about Signals being the start of the synth era. There were quite a few keyboards on MP. Precisely. I dunno WTF people are smoking. Must be good stuff. Clearly it's Moving Pictures which started that phase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Moving Pictures had synths but they sounded better, and so did Alex. Signals is very bland sounding, in neither like the majority of the keyboard work, and Alex has very few interesting moments IN MY OPINION. Of course this will probably get dumped on, but never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'm so tired of the "synth years" bullshit. Who cares. It is what it is. Either be a fan and embrace the records or piss off! Sorry I can't take it anymore. I love every Rush record until "Test For Echo." Then the stinker "Vapor Trails" came out.It's just my opinion which means nothing to the big scheme of things. Rush fans who rip "Power Windows" apart are not Rush fans. Then again who cares. I guess you have to be a drummer to love "Grand Designs." EPIC tune. Fuckk it. RUSH f***ing RULES! FUCKK ALL THE FAKE RUSH FANS WHO HARBOR ON HERE! JMO LOVE ALL MY FRIENDS ON HERE THOUGH! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'm so tired of the "synth years" bullshit. Who cares. It is what it is. Either be a fan and embrace the records or piss off! Sorry I can't take it anymore. I love every Rush record until "Test For Echo." Then the stinker "Vapor Trails" came out.It's just my opinion which means nothing to the big scheme of things. Rush fans who rip "Power Windows" apart are not Rush fans. Then again who cares. I guess you have to be a drummer to love "Grand Designs." EPIC tune. Fuckk it. RUSH f***ing RULES! FUCKK ALL THE FAKE RUSH FANS WHO HARBOR ON HERE! JMO LOVE ALL MY FRIENDS ON HERE THOUGH! Agreed 100%! I honestly think Grace Under Pressure through to Presto is a phenomenal run of AMAZING pop rock albums! Seriously...agreed. Like what you like, but at least show some respect for the synth era fans every now and then. I remember when I struggled with Hemispheres and everyone was on my case it seemed. I now love the album, but still not as much as others. So what? My Rush experience is not anybody else's! Although I do wish I enjoyed Signals more. Boy I do, coz then the run of 9-10/10 albums would last from Caress Of Steel all the way through to Presto for me. I still really like Signals...The Weapon, New World Man, Losing It, Countdown...awesome stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Moving Pictures had synths but they sounded better, and so did Alex. Signals is very bland sounding, in neither like the majority of the keyboard work, and Alex has very few interesting moments IN MY OPINION. Of course this will probably get dumped on, but never mind. Not gonna dump on you, but I strongly disagree about Alex on that album. I think Signals has some of his most interesting work, it's just pushed too far back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Signals - Hold Your Fire.The synth era is more about how they wrote music than anything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'm so tired of the "synth years" bullshit. Who cares. It is what it is. Either be a fan and embrace the records or piss off! Sorry I can't take it anymore. I love every Rush record until "Test For Echo." Then the stinker "Vapor Trails" came out.It's just my opinion which means nothing to the big scheme of things. Rush fans who rip "Power Windows" apart are not Rush fans. Then again who cares. I guess you have to be a drummer to love "Grand Designs." EPIC tune. Fuckk it. RUSH f***ing RULES! FUCKK ALL THE FAKE RUSH FANS WHO HARBOR ON HERE! JMO LOVE ALL MY FRIENDS ON HERE THOUGH! I still love you Earl. That will never change. But after GUP Rush really went downhill. I'm glad that they turned it around at the end though. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I was on board till you started hating on HYF. Some day when this planet is a planet of apes an ancient astronaut will find HYF in the ruins of the city. The truth will be revealed. Geddy said it himself on BTLS. They're all Rush albums. Some of them are better Rush albums. HYF is at the very bottom IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Moving Pictures had synths but they sounded better, and so did Alex. Signals is very bland sounding, in neither like the majority of the keyboard work, and Alex has very few interesting moments IN MY OPINION. Of course this will probably get dumped on, but never mind. Not gonna dump on you, but I strongly disagree about Alex on that album. I think Signals has some of his most interesting work, it's just pushed too far back. Sorry I didn't make my point clear, this is what I meant! He was more obviously noticeable on MP, and when I have patience I do find much to enjoy on Signals. But for whatever reason, I view Signals as a minor warm up for better albums to come in this new direction, and losing Terrt Brown was the best decision they could have made. Edited July 19, 2015 by Segue Myles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock And Key Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Instead of calling it the synth era, we should be calling it the "Wimpy Guitar" era. More like the "Alex gets screwed" era...In my opinion his best guitar work was during this era, name a decent guitar solo on VP there isn't one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Let me fix this for you. The Synth Era clearly begins with Signals and ends with HYF. Presto has synth, sure, but it's not prominent -- it's at about the same level as prior to MP. VITAL SIGNS: Essential Synth-Era Rush Signals (full album)Grace Under Pressure (full album)Power Windows (full album)Hold Your Fire (full album) That should do it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock And Key Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I was on board till you started hating on HYF. Some day when this planet is a planet of apes an ancient astronaut will find HYF in the ruins of the city. The truth will be revealed.Love it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock And Key Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Moving Pictures had synths but they sounded better, and so did Alex. Signals is very bland sounding, in neither like the majority of the keyboard work, and Alex has very few interesting moments IN MY OPINION. Of course this will probably get dumped on, but never mind.Time to dump!!! Subdivisions (awesome solo), Analogue Kid (awesome solo), Chemistry (awesome solo), Digital Man (decent solo), The Weapon (awesome solo). Forgive me but a guy mentioned Planet Of The Apes earlier judging by this post you must be on one! I challenge you to listen to this album in it's entireity and listen properly. Edited July 20, 2015 by Lock And Key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanMeanPride Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 If we want to get really technical, let's talk about the synthesizer work on the earlier albums? A Farewell to Kings used quite a bit of mini moog, and Permanent Waves had its share as well. Where do those albums fit in regarding the supposed "synth era?" Of course the answer is: they don't. My point is that throughout the career of the band, Rush was simply utilizing the tools available to them to create cutting edge music, constantly reinventing whenever they needed to. So some parts of Rush history happen to have more synth than others. No big deal. No need to definitively draw a line with regard to the beginning and end of the so called "synth era." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) If we want to get really technical, let's talk about the synthesizer work on the earlier albums? A Farewell to Kings used quite a bit of mini moog, and Permanent Waves had its share as well. Where do those albums fit in regarding the supposed "synth era?" No need to definitively draw a line with regard to the beginning and end of the so called "synth era."http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/9c/9c4b24cc1cb6bc910e517e0b1fcb0671acf8bbcbf69bbda0e5d723455374bfd7.jpg Edited July 20, 2015 by JohnRogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If we want to get really technical, let's talk about the synthesizer work on the earlier albums? A Farewell to Kings used quite a bit of mini moog, and Permanent Waves had its share as well. Where do those albums fit in regarding the supposed "synth era?" No need to definitively draw a line with regard to the beginning and end of the so called "synth era."http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/9c/9c4b24cc1cb6bc910e517e0b1fcb0671acf8bbcbf69bbda0e5d723455374bfd7.jpg I read that with Picards voice in my brain. The line must be drawn HE YA! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Signals. I remember the day it came out. It was so sifferent from what came before. That's when the synth era started... regardless of producer. I'd even say that Vital Signs was the first synth song. Or maybe an experiment in same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 Grace Under Pressure is when synth became the fourth instrument on par with Bass, Drums and Guitar. Prior synth was more of a light topping. While they started pulling back on synth with Counterparts it was not regulated to second class status again until Vapor Trails. Now since I am the only one teaching a community college course on the Rush Synth Era we can stop all this silly debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 No disrespect, but light topping? Alex was complaining that he had to cut through the synths on Subs. Countdown? I think Geddy plays just as much keyboards as he does bass. But the rest of the songs... OK, maybe they aren't as synth 'heavy'. But you can hear the change in direction on that record. I still think the Synth Era starts with either Subs or Vital, 1 record back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Signals was a change in direction, a start down a road in the dark we could not see. Grace Under Pressure was a car traveling down that same road pulling over to let the driver vomit synthesizers on the road. Edited July 21, 2015 by JohnRogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Grace Under Pressure is when synth became the fourth instrument on par with Bass, Drums and Guitar. Prior synth was more of a light topping. While they started pulling back on synth with Counterparts it was not regulated to second class status again until Vapor Trails. Now since I am the only one teaching a community college course on the Rush Synth Era we can stop all this silly debate. Well I'm 6 foot 5 and I eat punks Like you for breakfast. Next thing you are gong to tell me Permanent Waves is a 70s album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Synth era really starts at the begining of 2112 and lasts all the way thru fhe end of RTB. CP and TFE dont really feature synths at all barring a few tunes so think its a stretch to call them synth era Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) double post Edited July 22, 2015 by greg2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) I have never considered signals to be synth era and to me its debateable if gup is either. Both of those discs whole having more and more keys were real heavy on the reggae influences. I cant recall any reggae influence post gup at this moment? Imo the end the reggae era is the begining of the synth years. I agree with you completely on signals. never classified it as synth era, but rather in the PeW/MP era (which for the record also has those reggae influences you speak of). Edited July 22, 2015 by greg2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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