Snaked Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 It's my number one favorite Rush song of all time, and the live version on R30 is the most transcendent moment in the recorded history of Rush, IMO. But it's just plain childish to start a thread on it because someone else started one on Jacob's Ladder. The greatness of Natural Science isn't made any greater by slamming Jacob's Ladder. I think it's ok that he made this thread, even for the reason he made it. What is childish is that he continues to go into the Jacob's Ladder thread to slam that song and promote this one. :eyeroll: Is it childish that others come into this thread to slam NatSci and promote JL? Or maybe it's childish that people come into this thread just to take jabs at the OP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Trying to learn the cool guitar part right before "wheels within wheels...." Great song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBob Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The only flaw with Different Strings is that they cut Alex's outro solo wayyyyyyyyy too early. Boy, you are preaching to the choir. Like on The Wreckers, massive blueballing with the end of this song. And, that is the best quote I've ever read on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The only flaw with Different Strings is that they cut Alex's outro solo wayyyyyyyyy too early. I wonder if they have a master tape somewhere with an extended version of that solo? :Alex: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBob Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Natural Science is masterpiece. I remember the first time I heard it.I just got PeW on cd and was driving on US-19 in Green County, PA. I never heard of it before, or knew of its significance. So, it was like a complete shock to me when I heard it. I was like 'holy moly what the hell am i listening too?!' That transition to the build up part ('the quantum leap forward' part) is incredible! It sent chills down my back. It was like the first time I heard La Villa Strangiatto. Another masterpiece 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Trying to learn the cool guitar part right before "wheels within wheels...." Great song. I love that little riff. When I learned it I played it probably for an hour without stopping. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyLee Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The only flaw with Different Strings is that they cut Alex's outro solo wayyyyyyyyy too early. I wonder if they have a master tape somewhere with an extended version of that solo? :Alex: Even Alex commented on that solo ending early. In his words "it was just starting to get weird". I'd love to listen to what he considers weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The only flaw with Different Strings is that they cut Alex's outro solo wayyyyyyyyy too early. I wonder if they have a master tape somewhere with an extended version of that solo? :Alex: Even Alex commented on that solo ending early. In his words "it was just starting to get weird". I'd love to listen to what he considers weird. Not to get off topic, because this is supposed to be about Natural Science (sorry Zumb; love the song...), but I also dig the Different Strings solo - is there slide played on that, or is it a whammy? I do love Lifeson's more frenetic solos. One solo of his that I don't care for - I just find it kind of ugly - is the one on Time and Motion. He just seems pissed off on that thing, like he's trying to kill his guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The opening part with the water sounds is kind of disconcerting when you listen with headphones on. It feels like I'm getting water in my ears. But maybe that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Trying to learn the cool guitar part right before "wheels within wheels...." Great song.|-----------------|------------------||-----0-----------|-3----------------||---4-------0---2-|-------0---0---0--||-2-------0---0---|-----0------------||-------3---------|---2-----3---5----||-----------------|------------------| Instead of the last '5' I just hit the open D string 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Trying to learn the cool guitar part right before "wheels within wheels...." Great song.|-----------------|------------------||-----0-----------|-3----------------||---4-------0---2-|-------0---0---0--||-2-------0---0---|-----0------------||-------3---------|---2-----3---5----||-----------------|------------------| Instead of the last '5' I just hit the open D string Perfect, thanks. I was watching a video of a guy playing it on You Tube, and he does a pretty good job explaining it, but for me it helps to see a "diagram" (like with anything, really!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Alex's second solo on this song is rather uninspired? Compared to the other solos in PeW, this one sounds like an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Alex's second solo on this song is rather uninspired? Compared to the other solos in PeW, this one sounds like an afterthought. The one in the third movement (Permanent Waves)? I don't think so, but it's not as good as the one in Hyperspace, which is up there with some of his best solos all time, so it's not fair to put anything against that one anyway. I can see where you're coming from, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 At 36 minutes, just play ALL 6 songs off Waves for R40.Anyone got a problem with that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock n roll over Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Love it. No words can describe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty Mindless Spectre Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) It's no Jacob's Ladder.Why would we even create a thread about it? About Jacob's Ladder? If you have a complaint, see Toymaker. Toymaker is not qualified to diagnose and treat such complaints. Except he may, as a friend, advise listening to certain songs at high volumes. http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/FLY_IGGLES_FLY/rush_st2.jpg Edited February 20, 2015 by Empty Mindless Spectre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Always a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty Mindless Spectre Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Alex's second solo on this song is rather uninspired? Compared to the other solos in PeW, this one sounds like an afterthought. I completely disagree. It may not be as technically difficult as the Freewill solo, but IMO, it is the most artistic solo on PW, and fits the song perfectly. I love the way he seamlessly combines several different sounds and techniques in that solo. The man is a pure genius, and this solo is just one of many examples that prove so. :haz: Edited February 20, 2015 by Empty Mindless Spectre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I like how Lifeson uses harmonics in solos. I also think it's cool that he writes riffs out of nothing but harmonics, like in the Hemisphere's prelude and Red Barchetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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