Principled Man Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Greinke to the Dbacks? Seriously? $206.5 million, so an average of $34 million plus for six years. Of course he's serious. He was barely getting pocket change from the Dodgers..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Dbacks needed pitching bad, so I'm not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Cubs pick up John Lackey for 2 years, $32 million. That one stings a bit in St. Louis. I know the Cardinals were hoping to keep him (but saw the writing on the wall with Lester and Epstein on the North Side). Pretty stellar move on Chicago's behalf. An upgrade and hurting your arch rival in the same move. I'm not counting on it being that great of a deal. Asking a guy in his late 30's to produce that good of a season he had last year with the Cardinals (under 3 ERA) isn't very realistic. But I guess he's better than blowing an astronomical 9 digit contract on a pitcher who's bound to blow out his arm soon. Keep whistling. You're almost past the graveyard. Lackey was a dumb signing the FIRST time Theo stupidly did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Greinke to the Dbacks? Seriously? $206.5 million, so an average of $34 million plus for six years. And WATT was saying that Lackey signing with the Cubs was a slap in the face to the Cardinals... Dodgers losing Greinke to a division rival has got to hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Samardijza (or however you spell it) to the Giants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingAllTheTime Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Cubs pick up John Lackey for 2 years, $32 million. That one stings a bit in St. Louis. I know the Cardinals were hoping to keep him (but saw the writing on the wall with Lester and Epstein on the North Side). Pretty stellar move on Chicago's behalf. An upgrade and hurting your arch rival in the same move. I'm not counting on it being that great of a deal. Asking a guy in his late 30's to produce that good of a season he had last year with the Cardinals (under 3 ERA) isn't very realistic. But I guess he's better than blowing an astronomical 9 digit contract on a pitcher who's bound to blow out his arm soon. Lackey was excellent last year. We will see how much gas he has left in the tank. Cubs will be fortunate if he as a good year in 2016 and a serviceable year in 2017 I do think it will be a great deal for next year, at least. My hunch is Lackey discovered his place at this time in his career aligns well with National League baseball. He had a decent defense behind him in St. Louis this year and I would argue the Chicago defense, albeit younger, is probably better. The wild card factor here is the catcher. Molina gets more out of his pitchers than the typical backstop. The question is how much of Lackey's 2015 productivity and success came from the guy asking for pitches and visiting him at the mound (or visiting with him in the dugout during stretches on the IR)? I would agree Molina is some of the reality, but not all of it. I do bet he has a solid 2016. I agree 2017 may be an issue, but I think this move puts Chicago, assuming a couple of other likely moves or lack of moves in the division, on track to be the odds on favorite for the NL Central next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Greinke to the Dbacks? Seriously? $206.5 million, so an average of $34 million plus for six years. And they just got Shelby Miller from the Braves. Rotation's getting pretty loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Greinke to the Dbacks? Seriously? $206.5 million, so an average of $34 million plus for six years. And they just got Shelby Miller from the Braves. Rotation's getting pretty loaded.They trade Goldschmitt for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Cards get Gjorko for Jon Jay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Greinke to the Dbacks? Seriously? $206.5 million, so an average of $34 million plus for six years. And they just got Shelby Miller from the Braves. Rotation's getting pretty loaded.They trade Goldschmitt for him? Inciarte and someone else, not Goldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Greinke to the Dbacks? Seriously? $206.5 million, so an average of $34 million plus for six years. And they just got Shelby Miller from the Braves. Rotation's getting pretty loaded.They trade Goldschmitt for him? Inciarte and someone else, not Goldy.It was the #1 pick in last year's draft, a SS from Vandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jason Motte to the Rockies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchmothesnowdog Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Starlin Castro to the Skankees for a bag of balls and a salary dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Pirates lose Neil Walker to the Mets for left hander Jonathon Niese. Pirates, as always, didn't have the money to keep him on a long term extension. Good article in the Post Gazette about how Pittsburgh likes the Pirates and why this is sad- - http://www.post-gaze...es/201512100084 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchmothesnowdog Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 WSCR in Chicago is reporting Heyward signed with the Cubs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx_rush Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Pirates lose Neil Walker to the Mets for left hander Jonathon Niese. Pirates, as always, didn't have the money to keep him on a long term extension. Good article in the Post Gazette about how Pittsburgh likes the Pirates and why this is sad- - http://www.post-gaze...es/201512100084 Yep...thats just the nature of being a pirates fan. Only way the pirates can keep talent is to buy out last couple of years of Arb (McCutchen, Marte), be able to keep them under team control for an extra couple years, then say farewell when they turn 30-32. For a small market team, its a good strategy. Oh, and of course, take on law paid veteran pitcher reclamation projects (Happ, Volquez, Liriano, Burnett......) If Niese has a bounce back year, which since hes going to the Pirates its almost expected, we could potentiall pick up his option in 2017 at a bargain of around 10 million....its amazing how many crappy pitchers make 10+ million these day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx_rush Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Leake to Cardinals.....I would expect a bounce back year out of him. St. Louis, San Francisco and Pittsburgh are weird places in that pitchers regularly bounce back when aquired by those franchises 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Pirates lose Neil Walker to the Mets for left hander Jonathon Niese. Pirates, as always, didn't have the money to keep him on a long term extension. Good article in the Post Gazette about how Pittsburgh likes the Pirates and why this is sad- - http://www.post-gaze...es/201512100084 Yep...thats just the nature of being a pirates fan. Only way the pirates can keep talent is to buy out last couple of years of Arb (McCutchen, Marte), be able to keep them under team control for an extra couple years, then say farewell when they turn 30-32. For a small market team, its a good strategy. Oh, and of course, take on law paid veteran pitcher reclamation projects (Happ, Volquez, Liriano, Burnett......) If Niese has a bounce back year, which since hes going to the Pirates its almost expected, we could potentiall pick up his option in 2017 at a bargain of around 10 million....its amazing how many crappy pitchers make 10+ million these day Yeah, looking at what so many pitchers are getting this year, you wonder if Burnett is having second thoughts about his decision. . . he wasn't getting any younger though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Daniel Murphy to the Nats for 3 years, $37.5mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Daniel Murphy to the Nats for 3 years, $37.5milBuy high, sell low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yankmes get Aroldis Chapman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yankmes get Aroldis Chapman...Do the Yankees have a starter that can pitch into the 7th inning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yankmes get Aroldis Chapman...Do the Yankees have a starter that can pitch into the 7th inning? One thats breathing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yankmes get Aroldis Chapman...Do the Yankees have a starter that can pitch into the 7th inning? One thats breathing?Sabathia, if you want to watch someone throw 200 pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djflex Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 All left handed dodger starters? Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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