Akron162 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) I'm a big partidarian of retiring when you are in the top, you know, let the people remember you when you are in your finest and not in your worst. Every band i like has an album that marks the beginning of the end, where you can mark the moment when they creative spark went off and everything they make after that is nowhere as good as what they made before, even if they manage to do some decent music, its just not the same. That's why i really respect Harmonium. After l'Heptade they felt they had done everything they had to do in the best way they could, and decided to quit before they start making shitty music. So, what do you think is the album that marked the beginning of the end for a particular band? I know we all have some. Edited July 22, 2012 by Akron162 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Here's an easy and everyone will agree I'm sure. Misplaced Childhood - Marillion Edited July 22, 2012 by OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (Akron162 @ Jul 22 2012, 01:52 AM) That's why i really respect Harmonium. After l'Heptade they felt they had done everything they had to do in the best way they could, and decided to quit before they start making shitty music. I really don't like l'Heptade. It's way too ambitious and there only small sections of it I really think worked. I find it very hard to get through. Their debut was great, and obviously Le Cinq Saisons is an all time classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Last good or great album before a group really started to lose the plot: Yes - 90125 King Crimson - Red Tangerine Dream - Le Parc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Kings Of Leon - Because Of The Times They used to be a decent Southern rock revival band and now they're just a cut above wuss rockers like Maroon 5 and Nickelback. Led Zeppelin - Presence Metallica - black album New Order - Technique Queen - The Works Radiohead - In Rainbows Rolling Stones - Tattoo You Smashing Pumpkins - MCIS Talking Heads - True Stories Weezer - Maladroit The Who - The Who By Numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Some popular bands... Styx--Paradise Theater REO--Hi Infidelity Def Leppard--Pyromania Journey--Escape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akron162 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (invisible airwave @ Jul 22 2012, 01:12 PM) Kings Of Leon - Because Of The Times They used to be a decent Southern rock revival band and now they're just a cut above wuss rockers like Maroon 5 and Nickelback. Led Zeppelin - Presence Metallica - black album New Order - Technique Queen - The Works Radiohead - In Rainbows Rolling Stones - Tattoo You Smashing Pumpkins - MCIS Talking Heads - True Stories Weezer - Maladroit The Who - The Who By Numbers In the case of Metallica i think ...And Justice for All, its a more clear example. They started to get commercial (you know, MTV videos) , and the black album was just the full jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathlikesilence Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 22 2012, 09:05 AM) Last good or great album before a group really started to lose the plot: Yes - 90125 King Crimson - Red Tangerine Dream - Le Parc not a fan of discipline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2s Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair Van der Graaf Generator - World Record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFireYYZ Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (t2s @ Jul 22 2012, 04:16 PM) Van der Graaf Generator - World Record Trisector and A Grounding In Numbers are great albums, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 "Some Girls" by The Rolling Stones "All Things Must Pass" by George Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2s Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Jul 22 2012, 01:28 PM) QUOTE (t2s @ Jul 22 2012, 04:16 PM) Van der Graaf Generator - World Record Trisector and A Grounding In Numbers are great albums, IMO. I liked A Grounding in Numbers, but it just didn't feel like a VdGG album should, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamiltonYYZ Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Blue Oyster Cult - Club Ninja Toto - Tambu Judas Priest - Sin After Sin Genesis - And Then There Were Three Billy Joel - The Nylon Curtain Foreigner - 4 Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses Eagles - The Long Run Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers Kiss - Double Platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 So, this album that marks the end is supposed to be an unfavorable album rather than the last album of the streak, correct? e.g. I think Tormato was Yes' last album of their "creative streak" so I would list 90125 as the end of Yes? This seems odd to me but I'll do it this way anyhow. Rush - Power Windows Yes - 90125 Blind Guardian - A Twist in Myth ELO - A New World Record Bands That I don't feel have a presage (yet): Sonata Arctica Dream Theater King's X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFireYYZ Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (t2s @ Jul 22 2012, 05:16 PM) QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Jul 22 2012, 01:28 PM) QUOTE (t2s @ Jul 22 2012, 04:16 PM) Van der Graaf Generator - World Record Trisector and A Grounding In Numbers are great albums, IMO. I liked A Grounding in Numbers, but it just didn't feel like a VdGG album should, imo That's what I like about it. Instead of releasing an album that sounds/feels like a classic VdGG album they were willing to do something different 40 years into their career. Edited July 22, 2012 by ColdFireYYZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Here are some that are awesome albums, but it went downhill from that. Gong - You (Obviously the last Daevid Allen album) Styx - Paradise Theater - (fav Styx album, 1000x better than the albums on either side) Yes - Drama (90125 is a pretty good pop-rock album, but Fly From Here is a pretty darn good return to form) Genesis - Trick of the Tail Camel - Breathless (although Nude is good too, a few years later) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 22 2012, 09:05 AM) Last good or great album before a group really started to lose the plot: Yes - 90125 They lost this plot when they wrote the songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (HamiltonYYZ @ Jul 22 2012, 04:18 PM) Judas Priest - Sin After Sin Yeah , because they put out Nothing good after this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akron162 Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (metaldad @ Jul 23 2012, 12:13 PM) QUOTE (HamiltonYYZ @ Jul 22 2012, 04:18 PM) Judas Priest - Sin After Sin Yeah , because they put out Nothing good after this Im just curious, but why do you have the costarican Iron Maiden concert logo in you avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (Akron162 @ Jul 23 2012, 12:31 PM) QUOTE (metaldad @ Jul 23 2012, 12:13 PM) QUOTE (HamiltonYYZ @ Jul 22 2012, 04:18 PM) Judas Priest - Sin After Sin Yeah , because they put out Nothing good after this Im just curious, but why do you have the costarican Iron Maiden concert logo in you avatar? It looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finding IT Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (metaldad @ Jul 23 2012, 12:11 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 22 2012, 09:05 AM) Last good or great album before a group really started to lose the plot: Yes - 90125 They lost this plot when they wrote the songs Yes - the album before the hobbit started singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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