losingit2k Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 07:46 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 5 2012, 05:06 PM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Jun 5 2012, 06:39 PM)Don't know it well enough yet... And I haven't even heard it yet! Just seems like we could enjoy it for, I dunno, maybe a week before we start nitpicking and looking for faults. I probably shouldn't complain, though, because the reaction has been remarkably positive, much better than I remember for S&A. Seriously, I've been really enjoying it. My complaints are minor, and thank God for that! I was really expecting I wasn't going to enjoy it anywhere near as much as I have been. If you're enjoying it, Why Oh Why did you have to complain? Why? Edited June 6, 2012 by losingit2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vital signz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 For my own perfect Clockwork Angels.... 1. Ax the intro to BU2B 2. Replace BU2B2 with an instrumental Get right on that would you Nick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 6 2012, 04:09 AM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 07:46 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 5 2012, 05:06 PM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Jun 5 2012, 06:39 PM)Don't know it well enough yet... And I haven't even heard it yet! Just seems like we could enjoy it for, I dunno, maybe a week before we start nitpicking and looking for faults. I probably shouldn't complain, though, because the reaction has been remarkably positive, much better than I remember for S&A. Seriously, I've been really enjoying it. My complaints are minor, and thank God for that! I was really expecting I wasn't going to enjoy it anywhere near as much as I have been. If you're enjoying it, Why Oh Why did you have to complain? Why? It's called a conversation and being willing to look at things from a variety of points of view. It's us talking about minor issues on an album most people seem to at the minimum really like, and most really love. It could have been worse - at least it's not a CA sucks thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 5 2012, 07:43 PM) Nothing. There is nothing not great about the album, nothing I wish they would have done differently. That's not to say that it is perfect and couldn't be better, just that what we have doesn't need to be any better. And I sure as hell wouldn't say that it's all brickwalled to hell and the mastering/mixing is crap, as some are saying. It's a pleasure to listen to, and if the 0.001% of audiophiles find fault with it, that's not anyone's problem but theirs, IMO. Except I will say that the placement of Wish Them Well (between BU2B2 and The Garden) is just awful. Sounds totally out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Less Seven Cities of Gold, more Wish Them Well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jomboni Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Ok, I'll bite. I love the album, but it's not perfect. If these were fixed, it'd be a top 5 album for me: 1. There are notes that Geddy is just not hitting on the album. Not a lot, but they are there and they are noticeable (Seven Cities of Gold???). I wish he had come up with melodies that were more in his range. If he can't hit a note with multiple studio takes he's not going to hit it live. Also, how did the high pitched backing vocals in Wish Them Well make it past Neil, Alex, Nick and Rich and not get cut out? 2. A few awkward transitions in songs (coming out of the "blues" part in the title track, the weird 4 bar "honky tonk" part right before the last chorus in Carnies, coming out of the intro to Seven Cities.) There are a couple others but those are the ones that come immediately to mind. 3. Replace Wish Them Well with an instrumental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godeater2112 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Oh wow! The album isn't even released yet but Goobs needs a topic about what doesn't work on the album... Why am I not surprised whatsoever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgrendel Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 From what I understand there is not an instrumental on this effort. I look forward to Rush Instrumentals so this is a big downer for me. Purchasing CA becomes even less probable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 There is supposed to be a band portrait in the cd artwork, as stated in the liner notes, but there isn't any photo. Doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (drgrendel @ Jun 7 2012, 11:18 AM) From what I understand there is not an instrumental on this effort. I look forward to Rush Instrumentals so this is a big downer for me. Purchasing CA becomes even less probable now. wow.....so glad I don't think like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Neil played the high hat instead of the ride cymbal in one section of the Garden. That's it. I'm not buying the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgrendel Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) wow.....so glad I don't think like you! I feel the same....your point? If we all thought alike it would be a very boring world. Edited June 7, 2012 by drgrendel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (drgrendel @ Jun 7 2012, 11:26 AM) wow.....so glad I don't think like you! I feel the same....your point? My my point is what is stated. And I'm glad that feeling is mutual. Also, no flame to you. I respect your opinion, but just glad I'm loving this album after so much anticipation. If I ended up hating it, I'd be feeling kinda down. Edited June 7, 2012 by Gedneil Alpeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeson90 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 perfectly happy with everything on the album its a great piece of work and a welcome comeback after s&a i think... only thing id have liked more of is more minutes another track or two, maybe an instrumental, would have been fab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjtull Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Don't really care for BU2B2. Otherwise, this is a very solid album with a lot to LOVE in every single song!! At first I didn't like Halo Effect but I've changed my mind on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I wish there were longer and more elaborated Alex solos...esp at the end of Wreckers. It's really the only thing I can think of now that I wish was different. An instrumental would be nice, but i'm not missing it honestly...the songs themselves have so much power and energy and musical prowess with nice musical interludes that not having a separate instrumental never stuck out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 7 2012, 11:35 AM) I wish there were longer and more elaborated Alex solos...esp at the end of Wreckers. It's really the only thing I can think of now that I wish was different. An instrumental would be nice, but i'm not missing it honestly...the songs themselves have so much power and energy and musical prowess with nice musical interludes that not having a separate instrumental never stuck out for me. Yeah I'm not missing the instrumental either. When I first saw the track list I was disappointed their was no instrumental but after hearing the album, I don't miss it at all. The songs have enough instrumentation to to compensate for the lack of an instrumental. There isn't a bad track on this album. The only song that I found Ok was "Wish them Well" and that has grown on me as of late. This Album reminds me alot of the Signals-Power Windows era but much Stronger and Heavier. I also agree with you that they faded out The Wrecker to soon. But I'm sure that was be design so we can just die at the concert when they extend that Mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 7 2012, 11:49 AM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 7 2012, 11:35 AM) I wish there were longer and more elaborated Alex solos...esp at the end of Wreckers. It's really the only thing I can think of now that I wish was different. An instrumental would be nice, but i'm not missing it honestly...the songs themselves have so much power and energy and musical prowess with nice musical interludes that not having a separate instrumental never stuck out for me. Yeah I'm not missing the instrumental either. When I first saw the track list I was disappointed their was no instrumental but after hearing the album, I don't miss it at all. The songs have enough instrumentation to to compensate for the lack of an instrumental. There isn't a bad track on this album. The only song that I found Ok was "Wish them Well" and that has grown on me as of late. This Album reminds me alot of the Signals-Power Windows era but much Stronger and Heavier. I also agree with you that they faded out The Wrecker to soon. But I'm sure that was be design so we can just die at the concert when they extend that Mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM) what doesn't work about the album? the first two songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM) what doesn't work about the album? the first two songs. Youz crazzy Dudez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 7 2012, 12:01 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM) what doesn't work about the album? the first two songs. Youz crazzy Dudez. they are weak songs dude and for me the album starts with track 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 01:04 PM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 7 2012, 12:01 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM) what doesn't work about the album? the first two songs. Youz crazzy Dudez. they are weak songs dude and for me the album starts with track 3. I hear ya...but I still think they rock. Specifically BU2B...can't really relate to the lyrics, but sure as hell love the METAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew28 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Jomboni @ Jun 7 2012, 11:09 AM) Ok, I'll bite. I love the album, but it's not perfect. If these were fixed, it'd be a top 5 album for me: 1. There are notes that Geddy is just not hitting on the album. Not a lot, but they are there and they are noticeable (Seven Cities of Gold???). I wish he had come up with melodies that were more in his range. If he can't hit a note with multiple studio takes he's not going to hit it live. Also, how did the high pitched backing vocals in Wish Them Well make it past Neil, Alex, Nick and Rich and not get cut out? 2. A few awkward transitions in songs (coming out of the "blues" part in the title track, the weird 4 bar "honky tonk" part right before the last chorus in Carnies, coming out of the intro to Seven Cities.) There are a couple others but those are the ones that come immediately to mind. 3. Replace Wish Them Well with an instrumental! I agree with you on the transitions. There are some great verses, bridges and choruses, but often they come from out of nowhere and don't really match the rest of the song. For example, I love the intro to CA and I love the first verse, but it seems like it could have used a better transition. Then at around 1:30 it goes into a very heavy section, which IMHO screws up the song and comes from out of nowhere. Carnies is another example. The beginning of the song is very early Rush (brings to mind "Working Man"). I don't particularly love it, but then the chorus comes in and it's fantastic - but doesn't really match. It's as if they jammed and had all these great parts, and sort of botched the arrangements. It's still Rush and it's still better than 99% of what's out there, so I'm pleased overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 7 2012, 12:10 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 01:04 PM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 7 2012, 12:01 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM) what doesn't work about the album? the first two songs. Youz crazzy Dudez. they are weak songs dude and for me the album starts with track 3. I hear ya...but I still think they rock. Specifically BU2B...can't really relate to the lyrics, but sure as hell love the METAL! BU2B is a hell of a rocker and the middle section is the icing with those keys.....great melody, poignant emotion, touching lyrics, and strong flow too. Love the additional sound effects and more "meaty" sounding chorus on the new version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 7 2012, 10:33 AM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 7 2012, 12:10 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 01:04 PM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 7 2012, 12:01 PM) QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 7 2012, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM) what doesn't work about the album? the first two songs. Youz crazzy Dudez. they are weak songs dude and for me the album starts with track 3. I hear ya...but I still think they rock. Specifically BU2B...can't really relate to the lyrics, but sure as hell love the METAL! BU2B is a hell of a rocker and the middle section is the icing with those keys.....great melody, poignant emotion, touching lyrics, and strong flow too. Love the additional sound effects and more "meaty" sounding chorus on the new version. for some reason im enjoying BU2B more now than when it was first released. I'm not sure if it's the remix or listening to it in the context of the whole album or what, but one thing is for sure, this album is all killer and no filler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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