micgtr71 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) I have seen every tour since Power Windows and I have noticed something. Rush does not play much from P/G. In the last 25 years, I have seen Distant Early Warning, Red Sector A, Between the Wheels and about ten seconds of Red Lenses. Really, that's only three songs from a killer album. I understand why they don't do Afterimage, but Enemy, Body, and Gloves are all great tunes. Any thoughts on why the lack of representation? Edited June 21, 2011 by micgtr71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clem Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 because it's only one of many many studio albums that they have. Don't know if you realize it, but you named half the songs on the album (there are only eight songs, total). This is par for the course with most every album they've done after Moving Pictures. Think about how many songs (in the last ten years or so) that they've played from Signals, HYF, Power Windows, Roll the Bones, etc. I think you'll find the ratio is pretty much the same. I realize YOU think it's a killer album (for the record, I like it a lot as well), but there are masses of fans out there, each with their different favorites. I'm with you, though, that I'd love to hear Afterimage and/or Kid Gloves etc., but it's not really surprising to me that they haven't based on what I said above. Clem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Lang Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 It's a numbers game. Based on the sheer number of albums they've had to pick from on recent tours, they're kind of limited to one song per any album that isn't Moving Pictures or Permanent Waves, particularly if they're devoting a significant amount of time to a current album which is usually the case. Another reason is I think Geddy likes to limit the number of songs where he would be on keyboards for most of it. But I agree with you that this is one album I wouldn't mind seeing performed in its entirety. Every song on it is amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Red Lenses is one of the many songs that I would pay A LOT to see played live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Jun 20 2011, 09:55 PM) Red Lenses is one of the many songs that I would pay A LOT to see played live. with Neil's drum solo included in the middle of that song just like the P/G Tour. I'd also add Kid Gloves to that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barchetta90480 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If I'm not wrong, it's one of the very few albums (apart from Hemispheres and MP) of which every single song has been played live already - some only during the GUP tour, but still ... Wouldn't mind hearing a few of the rarer gems live again, though. Afterimage and Enemy Within are in my Top 5 wishlist for upcoming tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I was reading this thread and had the thought that when Clockwork Angels comes out it will be album 20 (if you include Feedback). If they did two songs from every album it would be a three hour show. I think the best you can hope for is one song from Grace Under Pressure each tour. They should consider doing two or three night shows in each town with different set lists each night on the next tour. While I'm dreaming I would also like a million dollars and ten years of my life back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (micgtr71 @ Jun 20 2011, 07:25 PM) I have seen every tour since Power Windows and I have noticed something. Rush does not play much from P/G. In the last 25 years, I have seen Distant Early Warning, Red Sector A, Between the Wheels and about ten seconds of Red Lenses. Really, that's only three songs from a killer album. I understand why they don't do Afterimage, but Enemy, Body, and Gloves are all great tunes. Any thoughts on why the lack of representation? Because the songs are okay, but only "okay." And others, like the aforementioned "Red Sector A," suck outright. Seriously, I think it's because the band themselves aren't too fond of the album. Geddy has said that the album, as difficult as it was to make, has too many bad memories associated with it. Edited June 21, 2011 by GeddyRulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughes&kettner Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 grace is a fantastic album. i wish they'd put songs like subdivisions and a few others that seem to be in every set on the shelf and pull out kid gloves or another grace track...i love subdivsions and limelight, but i'd hope to get a few diff. songs in the next couple tours. between the wheels is one of my fav. songs. when they pulled it out on R30- i was in 7th heaven. body electric and the enemy within are gems that need to be played live...soon. i wonder how much of moving pictures they will play after this tour is over. tom sawyee and YYZ for sure. the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Jun 21 2011, 07:58 AM) While I'm dreaming I would also like a million dollars and ten years of my life back. I would love to hear "The Body Electric" played live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yeah, I remember Geddy saying that Grace was not up to his expectations - a lot of it having to do with finding a producer to replace Terry and the one they did get disappointed the band. That is why Peter Henderson has not produced another album. I think Geddy or Alex once said that Grace lacks melody and that it was too engineered which is what Peter Henderson was - an engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 21 2011, 09:14 AM) QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Jun 21 2011, 07:58 AM) While I'm dreaming I would also like a million dollars and ten years of my life back. I would love to hear "The Body Electric" played live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of the 7 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Since I'm too new a fan to have heard any of it live, I'd be happy with any song. DEW, Enemy Within, Body Electric, Kid Gloves, and BTW would be tops, but BTW was probably done too recently to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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micgtr71 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 QUOTE (barchetta90480 @ Jun 21 2011, 04:23 AM) If I'm not wrong, it's one of the very few albums (apart from Hemispheres and MP) of which every single song has been played live already - some only during the GUP tour, but still ... Wouldn't mind hearing a few of the rarer gems live again, though. Afterimage and Enemy Within are in my Top 5 wishlist for upcoming tours. Yes, but the GUP tour was where most of it was played, I wouldn't even count Red Lenses after 84 because all I remember hearing was about 20 seconds. Enemy Within has been on my list since PoW, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micgtr71 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jun 21 2011, 08:50 AM) QUOTE (micgtr71 @ Jun 20 2011, 07:25 PM) I have seen every tour since Power Windows and I have noticed something. Rush does not play much from P/G. In the last 25 years, I have seen Distant Early Warning, Red Sector A, Between the Wheels and about ten seconds of Red Lenses. Really, that's only three songs from a killer album. I understand why they don't do Afterimage, but Enemy, Body, and Gloves are all great tunes. Any thoughts on why the lack of representation? Because the songs are okay, but only "okay." And others, like the aforementioned "Red Sector A," suck outright. Seriously, I think it's because the band themselves aren't too fond of the album. Geddy has said that the album, as difficult as it was to make, has too many bad memories associated with it. Solid point. Ditto on Red Sector A. Never understood why that was the one that they chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todem Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Red Sector A is a fantastic song. Alex's guitar work is amazing. The song has a very personal meaning to Geddy. To each his/her own. I hope they pull out another deep track from Grace like Afterimage or The Body Electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harperspace Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Another vote here for "The Body Electric". I appreciate that GUP isn't for everyone, coming as it did in the thick of the synth era. However, for me it contains many fine moments. "Afterimage" would always make my top ten list. No, really! Perhaps now that MP has been played in its entirety, the setlist will be mixed up again to freshen things up. At this stage it their careers and with the following they still have, I feel Rush could afford to dig a bit deeper into their repetoire when compiling setlists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harperspace Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Whoops! Double post. Sorry everyone. Edited June 22, 2011 by Harperspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUP1771 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'm hoping they pull out The Enemy Within as that rare track that appears in the Clockwork Angels setlist. I would die happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barchetta90480 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 QUOTE (Todem @ Jun 22 2011, 12:28 PM) Red Sector A is a fantastic song. Alex's guitar work is amazing. The song has a very personal meaning to Geddy. To each his/her own. I hope they pull out another deep track from Grace like Afterimage or The Body Electric. ... and lyrics-wise, it's stunning, esp. regarding the links to Geddy's family. Plus - it's the song that made me a Rush fan. Thus it will forever remain in my Top 5, although I don't mind them giving it a break for a few tours. I wasn't too happy with the choice of BTW instead, but I can very well live with it. A tour without any GUP song shouldn't happen again, yet. ... on the other hand ... any Rush tour to come will be fine. Even if they choose to play Feedback in its entirety. Who knows how many tours there will still be ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Slipperman Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I have always enjoyed hearing Distant Early Warning and Red Sector A in concert, and LOVED it when Between The Wheels was brought back. Do they have a particular aversion to Afterimage? I'd love to hear that live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 QUOTE (barchetta90480 @ Jun 22 2011, 03:55 PM) QUOTE (Todem @ Jun 22 2011, 12:28 PM) Red Sector A is a fantastic song. Alex's guitar work is amazing. The song has a very personal meaning to Geddy. To each his/her own. I hope they pull out another deep track from Grace like Afterimage or The Body Electric. ... and lyrics-wise, it's stunning, esp. regarding the links to Geddy's family. Plus - it's the song that made me a Rush fan. Thus it will forever remain in my Top 5, although I don't mind them giving it a break for a few tours. I wasn't too happy with the choice of BTW instead, but I can very well live with it. A tour without any GUP song shouldn't happen again, yet. ... on the other hand ... any Rush tour to come will be fine. Even if they choose to play Feedback in its entirety. Who knows how many tours there will still be ... I agree also. RSA is an amazing song. Gives me chills. I'd say that Geddy's vocals in RSA are some of his most emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Avatar Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I think it would be great to hear Afterimage, Kid Gloves, or The Enemy Within on the CA tour. Any one of those would sound great and be a welcome replacement for their more oft-played tunes, IMO. Hell, I'd take any one of them over Tom Sawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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