Ted Barchetta Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 04:59 PM) QUOTE (Mystic Slipperman @ Oct 28 2010, 03:39 PM) Pete Townshend's "Give Blood" has AMAZING playing on it: astonishing, actually I believe it's Simon Phillips on drums (I don't have the record handy at the moment) and I forget who plays the wall of fretless bass on that song, but it is colossal maybe my favorite Pete Townshend song It was either Steve Barnacle, Tony Butler or Pino Palladino. I don't know which one though. Edited November 5, 2010 by Ted Barchetta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 09:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) yeah, but are they far between? my musical thought: Thin Lizzy has an under-rated drummer! now back to your regularly scheduled argument... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) Seriously, I understand. I think there are a lot of modern bands that understand what good musicianship is. I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Barchetta Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Mother Goose by Jethro Tull is one of my favorite songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 11:39 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) Seriously, I understand. I think there are a lot of modern bands that understand what good musicianship is. I get it. I see. You 'think' - but you don't 'know'. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) I think I sees signs of someone aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (Gompers @ Nov 5 2010, 07:39 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) I think I sees signs of someone aging. Come now, G. ReR isn't coming off that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 09:02 AM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Nov 5 2010, 07:39 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) I think I sees signs of someone aging. Come now, G. ReR isn't coming off that bad... There are A LOT of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. Yep, that's right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 09:02 AM)QUOTE (Gompers @ Nov 5 2010, 07:39 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) I think I sees signs of someone aging. Come now, G. ReR isn't coming off that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (Gompers @ Nov 5 2010, 09:14 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 09:02 AM)QUOTE (Gompers @ Nov 5 2010, 07:39 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 11:07 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM)QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 4 2010, 08:53 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 27 2010, 05:36 PM)QUOTE (fledgehog @ Oct 27 2010, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (Astromancer @ Oct 26 2010, 10:17 PM) I HATE that very few "modern" bands seem to understand what musicianship is. i hate that people think this is true. Yeah, it's silly to feel that way. I'm an old fogie and I know there are great "modern" bands out there. and what you're both missing from Astro's OP: he said 'very few', not none (and he is correct) I didn't miss anything. I simply disagree with the statement. There are a lot of modern bands that understand what musicianship is. incorrect there are only a 'few' (see, you're still not getting it) I think I sees signs of someone aging. Come now, G. ReR isn't coming off that bad... Hmm...I guess ignorance is bliss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 re: modern bands the simple fact is, there is an astronomically large group of people who call themselves 'musicians' who are technically just mimics there are very few who possess actual creative skill and honest musicianship, but they do exist none of this is a surprise to anyone but the most unenlightened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 09:21 AM) re: modern bands the simple fact is, there is an astronomically large group of people who call themselves 'musicians' who are technically just mimics there are very few who possess actual creative skill and honest musicianship, but they do exist none of this is a surprise to anyone but the most unenlightened Again, I disagree with this opinion. If you're referring to a small sample size (radio, MTV etc.), then I see your point. Take everything into consideration, then I think it's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 5 2010, 08:27 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 09:21 AM) re: modern bands the simple fact is, there is an astronomically large group of people who call themselves 'musicians' who are technically just mimics there are very few who possess actual creative skill and honest musicianship, but they do exist none of this is a surprise to anyone but the most unenlightened Again, I disagree with this opinion. If you're referring to a small sample size (radio, MTV etc.), then I see your point. Take everything into consideration, then I think it's wrong. Taking 'everything' into account is impossible (of course .) I agree with you that within the limited scope of MTV/radio, the proportion of mimic to musician is almost overwhelmingly favored to the former. However, expand that pool of 'modern bands' we might consider across smaller record label samplers and websites, indie magazines, local record stores and microblogs, and we'll still find that 'great' modern bands are in the extreme minority. I've spent the better part of 30 years as a performing musician, music fan, record collector, indie music store manager, subscriber to underground music 'zines and so on. I don't point that out to brag, but rather to support that my opinion isn't arbitrary or mere speculation. Without exaggeration, my assessments are based on experience and fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rummut71 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 QUOTE (MMCXII @ Nov 4 2010, 10:36 PM) my musical thought: Thin Lizzy has an under-rated drummer! now back to your regularly scheduled argument... You are 1,000% correct... Brian Downey was a bad motherf*cker in Thin Lizzy and one of most underrated players of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Just listened to another new My Chemical Romance song. It's the second song they've released in as many days, but unlike the previous three singles it's for free. Anyways, these songs comprise a little less than a third of their new album, and every single one of them has blown me away. I can't wait for the record to come out. As I've said before, if you didn't like them before, or think that they're still emo, please give this record a listen with an open mind. I'm confident it's gonna change people's opinions of the band... or at least, get rid of that emo image, which is totally inaccurate now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steevo Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ Nov 6 2010, 12:09 PM)Just listened to another new My Chemical Romance song. It's the second song they've released in as many days, but unlike the previous three singles it's for free. Anyways, these songs comprise a little less than a third of their new album, and every single one of them has blown me away. I can't wait for the record to come out. As I've said before, if you didn't like them before, or think that they're still emo, please give this record a listen with an open mind. I'm confident it's gonna change people's opinions of the band... or at least, get rid of that emo image, which is totally inaccurate now. Just because its you, I will. But don't expect miracles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 QUOTE (rummut71 @ Nov 5 2010, 09:28 AM) QUOTE (MMCXII @ Nov 4 2010, 10:36 PM) my musical thought: Thin Lizzy has an under-rated drummer! now back to your regularly scheduled argument... You are 1,000% correct... Brian Downey was a bad motherf*cker in Thin Lizzy and one of most underrated players of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 There are so many good songs in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 11:19 AM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Nov 5 2010, 08:27 AM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Nov 5 2010, 09:21 AM) re: modern bands the simple fact is, there is an astronomically large group of people who call themselves 'musicians' who are technically just mimics there are very few who possess actual creative skill and honest musicianship, but they do exist none of this is a surprise to anyone but the most unenlightened Again, I disagree with this opinion. If you're referring to a small sample size (radio, MTV etc.), then I see your point. Take everything into consideration, then I think it's wrong. Taking 'everything' into account is impossible (of course .) I agree with you that within the limited scope of MTV/radio, the proportion of mimic to musician is almost overwhelmingly favored to the former. However, expand that pool of 'modern bands' we might consider across smaller record label samplers and websites, indie magazines, local record stores and microblogs, and we'll still find that 'great' modern bands are in the extreme minority. I've spent the better part of 30 years as a performing musician, music fan, record collector, indie music store manager, subscriber to underground music 'zines and so on. I don't point that out to brag, but rather to support that my opinion isn't arbitrary or mere speculation. Without exaggeration, my assessments are based on experience and fact. Musicianship. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaye Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ Nov 5 2010, 11:09 PM)Just listened to another new My Chemical Romance song. It's the second song they've released in as many days, but unlike the previous three singles it's for free. Anyways, these songs comprise a little less than a third of their new album, and every single one of them has blown me away. I can't wait for the record to come out. As I've said before, if you didn't like them before, or think that they're still emo, please give this record a listen with an open mind. I'm confident it's gonna change people's opinions of the band... or at least, get rid of that emo image, which is totally inaccurate now. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFireYYZ Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I just listened to Tales From Topographical Oceans for the first time today. It is awesome! Only complaint is that it is a bit long, but otherwise its practically a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steevo Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Nov 8 2010, 03:55 PM)I just listened to Tales From Topographical Oceans for the first time today. It is awesome! Only complaint is that it is a bit long, but otherwise its practically a masterpiece. Give it more time to let it unfold. She be a true masterpiece, no question about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Nov 7 2010, 09:55 PM)I just listened to Tales From Topographical Oceans for the first time today. It is awesome! Only complaint is that it is a bit long, but otherwise its practically a masterpiece. Took you long enough While I don't think it's a masterpiece, it's a damn good record (Ritual and Revealing = ) and it's definitely not a one-listen-then-review record. It's probably Yes' most dense work, due to the sheer length of it as opposed to CTTE or Relayer both being only 40 minutes each. BTW, it's Topographic... no "al" needed at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fledgehog Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Edited November 8, 2010 by fledgehog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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