ReflectedLight Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (Show Don't Tell @ May 14 2008, 03:08 PM) I love Open Secrets! God, I wish they'd play it live... The solo on it is one of Alex's best, definitely! agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 yes I'm a fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocinanteKid Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (hope70 @ May 14 2008, 09:19 PM) I guess there's no love for tai shan? A different sounding song, but I like it. The music is perfect for the lyrics. No, I dig Tai Shan. As I said recently on here along with High Water and Time Stand Still that was originally the only song I enjoyed from Hold Your Fire until I went back and realised what an awesome, awesome album that is. I love Geddy's bass on Tai Shan, always wanted to learn to play it just because of that distinct, "forwards" tone he gets outta it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilderness_of_Mirrors Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Open Secrets is definately in my top 20 Rush songs, but yet, from what I know, it has NEVER been played live??? why??!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocinanteKid Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (Wilderness_of_Mirrors @ May 14 2008, 09:26 PM) Open Secrets is definately in my top 20 Rush songs, but yet, from what I know, it has NEVER been played live??? why??!?!?! Probably because quite a lot of the Rush fanbase doesn't feel that way, although I'm with you on this; its an awesome tune (Not sure it would make my person top 20 though) not everyone feels that way and I guess its always nice when the songs you choose to play get a good response rather than a lukewarm one. Plus as you probably already know a lot of the material on Power Windows and Hold Your Fire is very complex arrangement-wise and might be quite difficult for the band to reproduce live, which might also explain the complete rejection of Power Windows material and just Mission from Hold Your Fire on the Snakes & Arrows tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Its the best song off of a great album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Simply a great song in a string of great songs. Heavy synth or not HYF is a spotless album (well...nearly spotless...there is Tai Shan afterall). One of their best albums & one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilderness_of_Mirrors Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (TheRocinanteKid @ May 14 2008, 03:30 PM) QUOTE (Wilderness_of_Mirrors @ May 14 2008, 09:26 PM) Open Secrets is definately in my top 20 Rush songs, but yet, from what I know, it has NEVER been played live??? why??!?!?! Probably because quite a lot of the Rush fanbase doesn't feel that way, although I'm with you on this; its an awesome tune (Not sure it would make my person top 20 though) not everyone feels that way and I guess its always nice when the songs you choose to play get a good response rather than a lukewarm one. Plus as you probably already know a lot of the material on Power Windows and Hold Your Fire is very complex arrangement-wise and might be quite difficult for the band to reproduce live, which might also explain the complete rejection of Power Windows material and just Mission from Hold Your Fire on the Snakes & Arrows tour. i se your point, but songs like Natural Science, which they obviously still play, have a lot more complex arrangements then Open Secrets and they play those still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocinanteKid Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (Wilderness_of_Mirrors @ May 14 2008, 09:38 PM) QUOTE (TheRocinanteKid @ May 14 2008, 03:30 PM) QUOTE (Wilderness_of_Mirrors @ May 14 2008, 09:26 PM) Open Secrets is definately in my top 20 Rush songs, but yet, from what I know, it has NEVER been played live??? why??!?!?! Probably because quite a lot of the Rush fanbase doesn't feel that way, although I'm with you on this; its an awesome tune (Not sure it would make my person top 20 though) not everyone feels that way and I guess its always nice when the songs you choose to play get a good response rather than a lukewarm one. Plus as you probably already know a lot of the material on Power Windows and Hold Your Fire is very complex arrangement-wise and might be quite difficult for the band to reproduce live, which might also explain the complete rejection of Power Windows material and just Mission from Hold Your Fire on the Snakes & Arrows tour. i se your point, but songs like Natural Science, which they obviously still play, have a lot more complex arrangements then Open Secrets and they play those still. Yes but in a different way. Perhaps I should have phrased my response differently. Natural Science is a difficult song to play. Some of the songs on Power Windows and Hold Your Fire while clearly not as "virtuoso" on any of the instruments as Natural Science... take the guitar part in Marathon for example... are heavily overdubbed and full of triggered samples. I think its Geddy in Contents Under Pressure who speaks about how difficult it was to play song of those songs live on tour, all three of the guys were having to trigger overdubs in the form of samples through pedals, synth or synth pads. You can see why that might get tricky and its probably one of the major reasons why in a way Presto and Counterparts are the start of a much more "back to basics" or "stripped down" sound for Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaye Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (TheRocinanteKid @ May 14 2008, 09:24 PM)QUOTE (hope70 @ May 14 2008, 09:19 PM) I guess there's no love for tai shan? A different sounding song, but I like it. The music is perfect for the lyrics. No, I dig Tai Shan. As I said recently on here along with High Water and Time Stand Still that was originally the only song I enjoyed from Hold Your Fire until I went back and realised what an awesome, awesome album that is. I love Geddy's bass on Tai Shan, always wanted to learn to play it just because of that distinct, "forwards" tone he gets outta it. I like Tai Shan too. It's lovely to hear during a bike ride through the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Open Secrets is a fantastic song. For anyone who is married or in a long term relationship, the lyrics are very relevant. In fact they are pretty close to the bone, and I found myself wincing with recognition on hearing them for the first time. the music is superb as well wih some tasty bass and guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (hope70 @ May 14 2008, 12:19 PM) I guess there's no love for tai shan? A different sounding song, but I like it. The music is perfect for the lyrics. I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I was looking out the window I should have looked at your face instead..... Excellent song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choose/the/light Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 great song, I love all of HYF, even Tai Shan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VagabondUZ Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 One of my favorite songs that I will always petition to hear live. The part with "Some of them burned on our ceilings, Some of them learned as a child" Always gives me goosebumps. I think Geddy's voice is perfect there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofLerxst Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Great song. Although I still don't own HYF on CD (cassette only ), I feel the need to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 QUOTE (DiscipleofLerxst @ May 14 2008, 05:29 PM) Great song. Although I still don't own HYF on CD (cassette only ), I feel the need to get it. What is this "cassette" of which you speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borough of Shmeng Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Fabulous and very underrated song IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazyyz Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Great song...actually listened to it today on the way to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemispheric Waves Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That is one of my favorites from HYF along with Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pags Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Open Secrets was the first "new" song for me to hear once I bought the CD. I already knew Force Ten and Time Stand Still from Chronicles - which was my most significant introduction to the band's previous work, especially thought the 80's. So Secrets really opened my eyes and ears to just how incredible Hold Your Fire is as a whole. It's dark sound through the keys still stands out above all the others. It's gripping. Just a flawless song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I like the song a lot. Love that album. THE most improved album for me...over all my listens....based on what I used to think. (Never disliked it...but didn't love it like I do now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ May 15 2008, 09:50 AM) I like the song a lot. Love that album. THE most improved album for me...over all my listens....based on what I used to think. (Never disliked it...but didn't love it like I do now). Good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 One of my favorites from HYF as well. Great album, I even like Tai Shan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingAngel Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Really cool song! Course, HYF may be my favorite Rush album along with AFTK. It's not my favorite song off the album, though. That easily goes to Prime Mover for me. Still, great song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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