Second Hand Grace Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Neil was the Third Hand Grace on "Earthshine". The Rush community does not seem to ask many questions about T4E and VT, it might broach discussions about the Bible. How fun . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) If P/G 40 doesn't have live material, I'm pretty sure a lot of copies will be on the second hand market. Any one of those would be second hand grace.... Edited August 11 by grep 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 What is second hand grace? Or third hand grace for that matter? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On 8/12/2024 at 1:34 AM, Entre_Perpetuo said: What is second hand grace? Or third hand grace for that matter? Something to do with MK-Ultra, I think. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, 1-0-0-1-0-0-1 said: Something to do with MK-Ultra, I think. My guess is she's a groupie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 On 8/14/2024 at 7:19 PM, laughedatbytime said: My guess is she's a groupie. Oh no. Not this shit again..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokkamom Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 It’s Alex’s second hand, and it’s always got a cigarette in it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 You're reading waaayyyy too much into this.....all Neil is refering to is the light that has been reflected three times.....sun to earth, earth to moon and moon back to earth again....the fact he uses a quasi-religious term to express it is purely poetic licence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 16 minutes ago, Fridge said: You're reading waaayyyy too much into this.....all Neil is refering to is the light that has been reflected three times.....sun to earth, earth to moon and moon back to earth again....the fact he uses a quasi-religious term to express it is purely poetic licence. This exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Fridge said: You're reading waaayyyy too much into this.....all Neil is refering to is the light that has been reflected three times.....sun to earth, earth to moon and moon back to earth again....the fact he uses a quasi-religious term to express it is purely poetic licence. Nice deflection, however, Neil would not be the Third Hand Grace, the Moon would be. Try again . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Second Hand Grace said: Nice deflection, however, Neil would not be the Third Hand Grace, the Moon would be. Try again . . I already explained exactly how Neil would position himself as the “third hand grace” based on exactly the line of logic that Fridge used. And when I did you just said I wasn’t worth talking to. Step off your soapbox and analyze the lyrics for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 If liquor is moonshine I figured weed was earthshine..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry2024 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 GRACE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 20 hours ago, Entre_Perpetuo said: I already explained exactly how Neil would position himself as the “third hand grace” based on exactly the line of logic that Fridge used. And when I did you just said I wasn’t worth talking to. Step off your soapbox and analyze the lyrics for what they are. Shit, Neil doesn't even claim to be third-hand grace in the song, so the premise of the OP is already in the ditch. He says "my third-hand grace", so it's something he has, not something he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 4 minutes ago, JARG said: Shit, Neil doesn't even claim to be third-hand grace in the song, so the premise of the OP is already in the ditch. He says "my third-hand grace", so it's something he has, not something he is. I do think there’s a subtle path where you could say Neil both is the third hand Grace and has it, but the has is far clearer by the wording, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 On 8/21/2024 at 5:30 PM, Second Hand Grace said: Nice deflection, however, Neil would not be the Third Hand Grace, the Moon would be. Try again . . You're either a rather unsuccessful troll, an idiot, or both....I'm not quite sure which yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry2024 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 It’s all clear to me now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 What about second hand smoke? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted August 23 Author Share Posted August 23 On 8/21/2024 at 1:50 PM, Entre_Perpetuo said: I already explained exactly how Neil would position himself as the “third hand grace” based on exactly the line of logic that Fridge used. And when I did you just said I wasn’t worth talking to. Step off your soapbox and analyze the lyrics for what they are. Your explanation is askew. Notice the vacuous avoidance of the comments here. Typical of Rush Fans when something beyond their apprehension encroaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 28 minutes ago, Second Hand Grace said: Your explanation is askew. Notice the vacuous avoidance of the comments here. Typical of Rush Fans when something beyond their apprehension encroaches. Explain where exactly my explanation is “askew.” And for Pete’s sake quit putting everybody down. It’s shameful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Hand Grace Posted August 23 Author Share Posted August 23 5 minutes ago, Entre_Perpetuo said: Explain where exactly my explanation is “askew.” And for Pete’s sake quit putting everybody down. It’s shameful. No time for anymore of this chickenshit, too busy with Kid Gloves right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Second Hand Grace said: No time for anymore of this chickenshit, too busy with Kid Gloves right now Well thanks for inspiring me to take a closer read of a few of Neil’s lyrics I guess. Gee, you try to have a conversation with somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry2024 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 On 8/21/2024 at 7:12 AM, Fridge said: You're reading waaayyyy too much into this.....all Neil is refering to is the light that has been reflected three times.....sun to earth, earth to moon and moon back to earth again....the fact he uses a quasi-religious term to express it is purely poetic licence. Yeah you’re right. “Third hand grace” might also refer to benefiting from what others see as a religious experience. NP derives the same “grace” but the means in which he experiences it is not relevant. EG: Your moment of religious wonderment is fulfilling me too, but its origins are not heavenly (to me). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I am Spartacus! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 THIS. IS. SPARTA!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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