Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 http://u.rockthisthing.com/image/300/300/RU00PINBOB000_000.jpg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Did Neil mean things like this... This snakesking thong will make every woman's wardrobe complete. If your man is a Rush fan, this thong will make his wildest fantasies come true.Well actually, that part is up to you, but at least you will look the part. All sales final for this item. http://www.rushbackstage.com/images/products/RU/SA/RUSATHNSNK036_000.jpg?preset=details Edited August 18, 2015 by ReGorLaTroy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sure, there is something to be said for musical integrity, but in the end it is a business. If you can be a crappy musician and make tons of money off of it, then why not? I'd rather do that then do the job I am doing now. America wouldn't be "The Land of opportunity" if everyone stayed true to their values. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Did Neil have an opinion about charging $100+ for a video box set that only included one disc of previously unreleased material? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Big drama next door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcm Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 how long ago did that quote from Neil happen...recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcm Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 "Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity.." Sure, there is something to be said for musical integrity, but in the end it is a business. If you can be a crappy musician and make tons of money off of it, then why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hurry and by that cymbal to get your free Neil Peart tshirt! I assume he was young when he said these things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I always thought the bar stools a nice touch, but who would want to sit on Hemispheres? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The one thing that you don't see is Rush junk all over K-mart and Wal-Mart and Target. etc.... I've never purchased anything more than maybe a Rush notepad anywhere other than a music store in the 35+ years I've been a fan. But Kiss stuff? You see it all over the place! Hell in the early 80's I worked for cruddy little East Coast store similar (and much smaller) than the three stores I mentioned above, and WE sold Kiss crap! (and not only in the music section!) We sold Kiss T-shirts in the kids and men's dept's...we sold Kiss dolls and other stuff in the toy dept. I don't remember anything Rush except for maybe the odd poster and album in the music department! So don't give me that "Ru$h" BS! Rush sells their own stuff, I'd be willing to bet their licensing is 1/16th of Kiss'! (if that!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I always thought the bar stools a nice touch, but who would want to sit on Hemispheres? :( Maybe Vapor Trails would be more appropriate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I always thought the bar stools a nice touch, but who would want to sit on Hemispheres? :( Maybe Vapor Trails would be more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One can see why RUSH would like to or NEED to push their merchandise to make profits. They probable not in the top15 grossing tours in 2015..... http://www.statista.com/statistics/278378/the-most-successful-music-tours-worldwide/ A band like One Direction leads the way....I have no idea who that is...they must be country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 This thread reminds me of the portion in the Bob Dylan song, "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)... "Disillusioned words like bullets barkAs human gods aim for their markMake everything from toy guns that sparkTo flesh-colored Christs that glow in the darkIt’s easy to see without looking too farThat not much is really sacred" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 how long ago did that quote from Neil happen...recently?Even if you asked him today, I bet he'd give a very similar answer. He's just never seemed able to lighten up and see the fun side of rock and roll. So somebody had KISS Army tattoos. Why not just acknowledge that they must be devoted fans, respect that and/or laugh it off rather than forming a critical judgment about them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdogged Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The one thing that you don't see is Rush junk all over K-mart and Wal-Mart and Target. etc.... I've never purchased anything more than maybe a Rush notepad anywhere other than a music store in the 35+ years I've been a fan.Is that Rush's choice, or K-mart, Wal-Mart and Target's choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 how long ago did that quote from Neil happen...recently?Even if you asked him today, I bet he'd give a very similar answer. He's just never seemed able to lighten up and see the fun side of rock and roll. So somebody had KISS Army tattoos. Why not just acknowledge that they must be devoted fans, respect that and/or laugh it off rather than forming a critical judgment about them? Yeah, Neil should just......"Lighten Up Francis" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I can't really comment on Neil's values and all that, but I will say that I don't really enjoy KISS's music that much, and so I don't own any of their stuff. I do enjoy Rush, and have bought a fair number of shirts, posters, books, pins, calendars, and stuff like that. I'm glad they sell it, and I gladly purchase it. I don't have enough disposable income to buy some of the more expensive stuff, but I don't begrudge the folks that do, as long as it makes them happy in some way. I don't pretend to understand how merchandising works, how much the band is involved and all that. Does Peart get a choice to say, well, no I don't think a Rush bar stool is a good idea? Or do they sell the rights to the brand to some third party? I remember the thread about Hugh Syme's album cover book, and the choice to release some crazily expensive $500 limited edition or whatever it was. My question was, isn't this Syme (rightfully?) profiting from his work? It's not always about the boys in the band, is it? With that, I'll stop. I will cheerfully admit to being naive about how this stuff works. . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) One can see why RUSH would like to or NEED to push their merchandise to make profits. They probable not in the top15 grossing tours in 2015..... http://www.statista....ours-worldwide/ A band like One Direction leads the way....I have no idea who that is...they must be country.But they did make the Top 15 most successful North American tours of 2015.... http://www.statista....-north-america/ Edited August 18, 2015 by ReRushed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Someone on here said (I think it was shortly after R40 tickets or when the R40 package went on sale), that each Rush member is in charge of one aspect of management (don't know the correct term I should use). I think Neil is the one who gives his yea or nay to marketing products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One can see why RUSH would like to or NEED to push their merchandise to make profits. They probable not in the top15 grossing tours in 2015..... http://www.statista....ours-worldwide/ A band like One Direction leads the way....I have no idea who that is...they must be country.But they did make the Top 15 most successful North American tours of 2015.... http://www.statista....-north-america/ But 2015 isn't over yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You can't really compare other bands to Kiss when it comes to merchandise. Regardless of whether you find any value in Kiss musically, what they created with the individual makeup characters was pure genius in terms of marketing potential. And I don't think they even realized it at the time of creation, it only occurred to them later on what all they could do with it. Wouldn't most people in their position go at least part way down that path? OK, maybe condoms, toilet paper and caskets are a bit much. ;) Even if Rush were inclined to sell dolls or lunch boxes, they could never come close to selling as many as Kiss. And that's a compliment to both bands - KISS on being able to push fantasy and Rush on being respected musicians in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One can see why RUSH would like to or NEED to push their merchandise to make profits. They probable not in the top15 grossing tours in 2015..... http://www.statista....ours-worldwide/ A band like One Direction leads the way....I have no idea who that is...they must be country.But they did make the Top 15 most successful North American tours of 2015.... http://www.statista....-north-america/ But 2015 isn't over yet.The Rush tour is over. It was only 35 dates, correct? It was very successful. Rush is not going to tour playing stadiums and selling out multiple nights in arenas. It a numbers game, anyway. Rush played 35 dates to their devoted fans. It was very successful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One can see why RUSH would like to or NEED to push their merchandise to make profits. They probable not in the top15 grossing tours in 2015..... http://www.statista....ours-worldwide/ A band like One Direction leads the way....I have no idea who that is...they must be country.But they did make the Top 15 most successful North American tours of 2015.... http://www.statista....-north-america/ But 2015 isn't over yet.The Rush tour is over. It was only 35 dates, correct? It was very successful. Rush is not going to tour playing stadiums and selling out multiple nights in arenas. It a numbers game, anyway. Rush played 35 dates to their devoted fans. It was very successful. That wasn't my point. The point I was making is that as of August 2015, Rush is #14 on a list of the 15 most successful tours. We will see if they stay at #14 when the year is over and the bands currently touring have finished up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 There's nothing wrong with selling a few items to the fans if there's a demand but Gene and Paul seem to view their band a nothing more than a business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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