JohnnyBlaze Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Edited February 21, 2012 by JohnnyBlaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Principled Man Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (HowItIs @ Feb 21 2012, 04:16 AM)What I really don't like - and I think this was goober's point with the OP - is the current propensity for torture porn. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, etc. just isn't horror. It's horrible, but not GOOD horror movie making. I never have and never will see those films. Quite frankly, it really worries me that so many people see them and enjoy them. Horror films used to be about being scared.....about monsters and aliens and other imaginary things coming to GET you..... Nowadays, it seems like it's about watching real people be tortured to death and dismembered. It's almost like snuff films without the actual murders..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Don't Look Now (1973) The Sender (1982) Edited February 21, 2012 by invisible airwave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glezgared Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Quatermass And The Pit (US release as; Five Million Years to Earth) 1967 Hammer Films Production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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H. P. L. Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 QUOTE (glezgared @ Feb 22 2012, 02:29 AM) Quatermass And The Pit (US release as; Five Million Years to Earth) 1967 Hammer Films Production Good one. Also, House on Haunted Hill (the original) and The Tingler, both with Vincent Price and directed by William Castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HowItIs Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ Feb 21 2012, 07:51 AM) QUOTE (HowItIs @ Feb 21 2012, 04:16 AM)What I really don't like - and I think this was goober's point with the OP - is the current propensity for torture porn. Stuff like Saw, Hostel, etc. just isn't horror. It's horrible, but not GOOD horror movie making. I never have and never will see those films. Quite frankly, it really worries me that so many people see them and enjoy them. Horror films used to be about being scared.....about monsters and aliens and other imaginary things coming to GET you..... Nowadays, it seems like it's about watching real people be tortured to death and dismembered. It's almost like snuff films without the actual murders..... Exactly! Thank you WM and I agree with Goobs, too: QUOTE I didn't say they were shitty, as I've never seen one, just that I have no desire to see one. I don't want to watch pseudo-snuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Cannibal Holocaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Within 77 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Feb 24 2012, 12:46 AM) Cannibal Holocaust Great movie and an awesome soundtrack. Extremely well made too- not a cheap B movie by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (Enemy Within 77 @ Feb 24 2012, 08:28 PM) QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Feb 24 2012, 12:46 AM) Cannibal Holocaust Great movie and an awesome soundtrack. Extremely well made too- not a cheap B movie by any means. yeah. amazing and revolutionary in so many ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 "Halloween" gets my nod as it truly is the most important independent film of all time. It's my all time favorite film in any genre. John Carpenter is a GENIUS! Other intellectual horror films? What a great topic! I could go on forever. Here are a few of mine. "Halloween III" (just kidding although I am strange and I think it's a brilliant intellectual far fetched film) John Carpenter: "Prince Of Darkness" "The Ward" "In The Mouth Of Madness" David Cronenberg: "Shivers" "Dead Ringers" "Videodrome" I think the first "Scream" was intellectual. Loved all of the classic horror puns. Tons of "Halloween" homage. Not sure if you will agree with me but the first "Friday The 13th" is quite intellectual. One of the greatest endings ever in the horror genre. "A Nightmare On Elm Street." "The Omen" "Drag Me To Hell" "Evil Dead" and "Evil Dead II" Romero's "Night Of The Living Dead" and of course my all time favorite zombie film "Dawn Of The Dead." Not that crappy remake! The black and white classic "The Bad Seed." "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" remake with Donald Sutherland. "Poltergeist" horrified me when I was a kid so in my mind it's a horror movie!! One of the best!! My all time favorite Japanese horror movie which is quite surreal and beyond intellectual goes to "HOUSE!" I have to thank this Forum for turning me on to "House." Great fukking movie. The Criterion Blu-Ray pressing is absolutely stunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 I think I have to admit that I'm not much of a fan of the horror genre, and it's because there seem to be so few quality intelligent horror movies. A movie that's designed solely to scare you doesn't do much for me at all, even if it's effectively done. I mean, when I was a young/mid-teen I saw tons of them - lots of Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, etc. Now they just seem like a mild, divergent and somewhat mindless escape. Movies that are just torture or cruelty do even less for me. I kind of feel like, just because those kinds of stories can be conceived of doesn't mean they should be made. Then again, if there's an audience for them, why not, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like them. No, sadly truly effective, intelligent horror movies that rise above the dreck of much of the genre are few and far between for me. I truly enjoy those when I see them, I just don't see them that often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Feb 25 2012, 02:43 AM) I think I have to admit that I'm not much of a fan of the horror genre, and it's because there seem to be so few quality intelligent horror movies. A movie that's designed solely to scare you doesn't do much for me at all, even if it's effectively done. I mean, when I was a young/mid-teen I saw tons of them - lots of Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, etc. Now they just seem like a mild, divergent and somewhat mindless escape. Movies that are just torture or cruelty do even less for me. I kind of feel like, just because those kinds of stories can be conceived of doesn't mean they should be made. Then again, if there's an audience for them, why not, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like them. No, sadly truly effective, intelligent horror movies that rise above the dreck of much of the genre are few and far between for me. I truly enjoy those when I see them, I just don't see them that often... Is this deja vu? Haven't we just been through this Goobs? I've given you a couple of big lists, go to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Feb 25 2012, 04:43 PM) I think I have to admit that I'm not much of a fan of the horror genre, and it's because there seem to be so few quality intelligent horror movies. A movie that's designed solely to scare you doesn't do much for me at all, even if it's effectively done. I mean, when I was a young/mid-teen I saw tons of them - lots of Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, etc. Now they just seem like a mild, divergent and somewhat mindless escape. Movies that are just torture or cruelty do even less for me. I kind of feel like, just because those kinds of stories can be conceived of doesn't mean they should be made. Then again, if there's an audience for them, why not, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like them. No, sadly truly effective, intelligent horror movies that rise above the dreck of much of the genre are few and far between for me. I truly enjoy those when I see them, I just don't see them that often... Have you ever seen Wolf Creek? It came out just a few years ago. Seems more suspense than a torture flick. Though there are a few scenes involving torture, it doesn't go over the top or rely too much on that. The torture is more implied than anything else. Decent horror flick. Another modern horror flick that I thought was good was The Descent: athletic spelunking babes go caving then start getting knocked off one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Feb 25 2012, 03:16 AM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Feb 25 2012, 04:43 PM) I think I have to admit that I'm not much of a fan of the horror genre, and it's because there seem to be so few quality intelligent horror movies. A movie that's designed solely to scare you doesn't do much for me at all, even if it's effectively done. I mean, when I was a young/mid-teen I saw tons of them - lots of Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, etc. Now they just seem like a mild, divergent and somewhat mindless escape. Movies that are just torture or cruelty do even less for me. I kind of feel like, just because those kinds of stories can be conceived of doesn't mean they should be made. Then again, if there's an audience for them, why not, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like them. No, sadly truly effective, intelligent horror movies that rise above the dreck of much of the genre are few and far between for me. I truly enjoy those when I see them, I just don't see them that often... Have you ever seen Wolf Creek? It came out just a few years ago. Seems more suspense than a torture flick. Though there are a few scenes involving torture, it doesn't go over the top or rely too much on that. The torture is more implied than anything else. Decent horror flick. Another modern horror flick that I thought was good was The Descent: athletic spelunking babes go caving then start getting knocked off one by one. Wolf Creek with the Aussie madman going after hitchhikers and laughing like a loon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ya_Big_Tree Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Here's my list of Horror films worth a watch: High Tension- French Horror with subtitles (it was so suspenseful) Martyrs- the original NOT the english remake Poltergeist- the first one was actually scary the first time I watched it which was last year... maybe it's because I was admittedly f*cked up tho LOL Hellraiser- first one is brilliant Nightmare on Elm St- first one Scream- first one was so original Halloween- of course Evil Dead series- it's funny as hell but i guess still considered horror Drag me to Hell was fantastic Ju-on- Japanese version of the Grudge (so much better) Probably more I'll list later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Not really horror, but for suspense I love "Wait Until Dark". Hepburn & Arkin with a brilliantly executed idea. I'm with Goobs (twice in one day!) that the genre itself isn't that strong. Beyond gore, there's not much to offer. Nosferatu, Freaks, and the classic Dracula, Frankenstein & Wolfman flicks are among the few that resonate with me, probably because of the absence of graphic violence and blood. Maybe that's a requisite characteristic for what the OP described as "smart" - leaving much to the viewer's imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeranacoke Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Bride of Frankenstein - One of the best horror movies ever, better than Frankenstein for sure. Fantastic blend of horror and black comedy, wonderful acting and terrific expressionist cinematography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I recently saw Frankenhooker for the first time which is from the same guy who did Brain Damage and the Basket Case films. That is one awesomely f-cked up black comedy/horror film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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