Super25Smasher Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Here's a time-tested classic: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I liked Tsunami Bomb. They didn't last long, but they had some jams. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWOc_Vl-us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 I liked Tsunami Bomb. They didn't last long, but they had some jams. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWOc_Vl-usI liked them, too. I wanted to see them on the warped tour this year, but they were only on certain dates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I've seen pop-punk used as a label to bash basically anything that doesn't suit a particular fan's tastes so often that I have trouble knowing what it means. To my ears bands like Green Day and the Offspring are just the next step after Bad Religion and the Descendents, who in turn followed the Adolescents. If those are pop punk, then I love punk punk, as Bad Religion is one of my all time favorite bands. I like seeing people here drawing it back further to the Buzzcocks or even back to the Ramones, but I guess that's why the term is hard for me to use. Does Operation Ivy count (or Rancid?) What about the ska influenced punks like Fishbone or the Bosstones? If Madness counts they certainly are pop, and amazing. Does the Clash count? Not on Sandinista, but what about Combat Rock? I get the impression that what we're talking about here is the Bad Religion influence based on the Green Day and Offspring mentions, and I really like most of the older Epitaph bands. I've traveled in a lot of punk circles though and when I read 'pop-punk' it's usually used with derision, so I cringe. Because I love Bad Religion, and they get blamed for causing Green Day and the Offspring, who get blamed for Blink 182, and so on. I hate how elitist punks can be (and progs too, and metal heads). It's really nice to be in a forum where the general consensus seems to be openness to other approaches. I was expecting pretentious responses declaring that anything after (insert year) isn't REAL PUNK. I'm starting to really like this forum. Interesting points. Madness were more associated with the SKA movement, along with bands like the Specials, although both genres rose to prominence around the same time. Bands like the Jam and even the Police, were tagged with the punk label early on. As for the Clash, they began as part of the punk movement, but evolved musically, pretty quickly. The same thing can be said about the Stranglers and Magazine. For me, Punk was always short, sharp, fast angry songs. No fuss. No solos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 The band in my avatar, Gaslight Anthem, is a good Replacement esque pop punk band. I recommend a new Canadian band called Pup as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I saw the Stranglers live in Glasgow way back in 78. Brilliant concert and this was the support band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INEC7IdE4QU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I've seen pop-punk used as a label to bash basically anything that doesn't suit a particular fan's tastes so often that I have trouble knowing what it means. To my ears bands like Green Day and the Offspring are just the next step after Bad Religion and the Descendents, who in turn followed the Adolescents. If those are pop punk, then I love punk punk, as Bad Religion is one of my all time favorite bands. I like seeing people here drawing it back further to the Buzzcocks or even back to the Ramones, but I guess that's why the term is hard for me to use. Does Operation Ivy count (or Rancid?) What about the ska influenced punks like Fishbone or the Bosstones? If Madness counts they certainly are pop, and amazing. Does the Clash count? Not on Sandinista, but what about Combat Rock? I get the impression that what we're talking about here is the Bad Religion influence based on the Green Day and Offspring mentions, and I really like most of the older Epitaph bands. I've traveled in a lot of punk circles though and when I read 'pop-punk' it's usually used with derision, so I cringe. Because I love Bad Religion, and they get blamed for causing Green Day and the Offspring, who get blamed for Blink 182, and so on. I hate how elitist punks can be (and progs too, and metal heads). It's really nice to be in a forum where the general consensus seems to be openness to other approaches. I was expecting pretentious responses declaring that anything after (insert year) isn't REAL PUNK. I'm starting to really like this forum. Madness were more associated with the SKA movement, along with bands like the Specials, although both genres rose to prominence around the same time. Ska, though, began in Jamaica in the 50's or so. What we typically call ska was always a blending of traditional ska with the emerging punk explorations, that's why I mentioned them. On your other point about what punk means to you, is that it seems to mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Early Police (Fall Out, Nothing Achieving, Landlord) were definitely punk by most definitions. I like your answer to my question, though, because it gives me the boundaries for my answer. Based on what I've seen in this thread I'd say I like pop-punk, but up to a point. If it becomes to polished or tries to obviously to be radio or video friendly I start to really hate it. And since I can't actually judge someone's intent perhaps I'm wrong about my reason. But for whatever reason, sometimes it can be 'pop' for my tastes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Ska did indeed originate in Jamaica. It came to England via Jamaican refugees after WW2. It had an affinity with early punk as it dealt with social injusticefor the most part. Madness was very much the brighter side of the genre. I must admit, I'm not familiar with those early Police songs before Roxette. I agree Punk needs to have a raw sound . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lucas Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 A couple of goods ones from recent years More on the power pop side: Tinted Windows More on the punk side: Street Dogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I must admit, I'm not familiar with those early Police songs before Roxette. I knew of them but hadn't heard them until the last few years. You can see those threads on the first two Police albums in a few songs, but they became so good at where they were headed that they quickly left those roots behind. But I was surprised at how good they were, if they had wanted to they could have had success as punks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I must admit, I'm not familiar with those early Police songs before Roxette. I knew of them but hadn't heard them until the last few years. You can see those threads on the first two Police albums in a few songs, but they became so good at where they were headed that they quickly left those roots behind. But I was surprised at how good they were, if they had wanted to they could have had success as punks. Fallout, Nothing Achieving, Landlord and Dead End Job are great punk songs from the box set. Strange to hear Sting drop an F bomb aggressively and even the C word on the latter song. It's like hearing Billy Joel say "f**k" on Laura from Nylon Curtain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 When I was just getting into music and didn't really know my way around or my definitions, Green Day's American Idiot was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of punk. Now Dookie is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of pop-punk and the Ramones are the first thing when I think of punk, but they're all really not all that different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Pop punk before pop punk... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoKeH7JYE48 Back of the net! Dave Grohls mentor, sheer unknown class. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Lo91Z0h3Q Edited October 18, 2016 by condemned2bfree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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condemned2bfree Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Wow just occurred to me how much I miss listening to Sugar/Bob mould -listening to your favorite thing . It been a while, going to get back to listening to them again. What a great pop punk songwriter he is. Solo stuff and Husker du too, Warehouse is one of my favourites. Seriously unknown, needs more recognition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Bob Mould is amazing. His work with Husker Du and Sugar is almost as profound to me as Rush's work. Here is my favorite song from Sugar. It's so bad ass. :haz: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 It all started with a Bop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Wow just occurred to me how much I miss listening to Sugar/Bob mould -listening to your favorite thing . It been a while, going to get back to listening to them again. What a great pop punk songwriter he is. Solo stuff and Husker du too, Warehouse is one of my favourites. Seriously unknown, needs more recognition.I know that this isn't really Pop Punk, but I got to put this out here. Just listen to the guitar work on this song by Bob Mould. The man is amazing. He is the Godfather of Punk in my book. The solos in this song give me goosebumps. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 A great one by Tsunami Bomb: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 A great one by Tsunami Bomb:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcgxlPXAYdw.I haven't heard this one in years and I still remember all of the lyrics. Catchy as f**k...it's gonna be stuck in my head all day. One of my favorites from them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nyxH3-0_8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 A great one by Tsunami Bomb:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcgxlPXAYdw.I haven't heard this one in years and I still remember all of the lyrics. Catchy as f**k...it's gonna be stuck in my head all day. One of my favorites from them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nyxH3-0_8Another great song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Heard this one when i saw Real Friends on Warped Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 SuperSmasher....check out Moose Blood! Pop punk with an early 2000's emo edge! They remind me so much of Brand New and Jimmy Eat World...they really British and they have knocked Young Guns off the top of my favourite brit bands list haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 SuperSmasher....check out Moose Blood! Pop punk with an early 2000's emo edge! They remind me so much of Brand New and Jimmy Eat World...they really British and they have knocked Young Guns off the top of my favourite brit bands list hahaI will listen to them this week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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