OldRUSHfan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......) My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? Edited January 5, 2016 by OldRUSHfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Andi is about trans? Never knew that! And all I can say is, people need to make their own choices. And people need to respect those choices, regardless of their own opinion. I shall say no more, but its a complex subject for many! Edited January 5, 2016 by Segue Myles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? You didn't close your parenthetical statement, so I can't form an opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? You didn't close your parenthetical statement, so I can't form an opinion. Compiler error 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? You didn't close your parenthetical statement, so I can't form an opinion. Compiler error He's using a compiler? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRUSHfan Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? You didn't close your parenthetical statement, so I can't form an opinion. Try again, sorry for the grammatical faux pas!And NO, I didn't use a compiler or whatever that is, for cripes sake..... Edited January 5, 2016 by OldRUSHfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umoveme Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Or sometimes people make benign comments about a person who is trans "Jenner" and others become overly sensitive. There's that too. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? You didn't close your parenthetical statement, so I can't form an opinion. Try again, sorry for the grammatical faux pas! No worries, mien freund! I was just being "particular." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Or sometimes people make benign comments about a person who is trans "Jenner" and others become overly sensitive. There's that too. B9? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umoveme Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Or sometimes people make benign comments about a person who is trans "Jenner" and others become overly sensitive. There's that too. B9? buhnine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Or sometimes people make benign comments about a person who is trans "Jenner" and others become overly sensitive. There's that too. B9? buhnine m'fault! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) They've got it easy. Poor old Goose is transgander and now he has no pecker. Edited January 5, 2016 by Tony R 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 They've got it easy. Poor old Goose is transgander and now he has no pecker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bruce Jenner is one these days....I know of a few others in the 'Hollywood' world, but why are people so closed minded about this subject? A song, "Andi" by Kansas off of their "Drastic Measures" album is about this, and always puts a catch in my throat when it plays. David Pack, Formerly from Ambrosia, sings back up on this song, one particular section by himself....just posted it in "What Are You Listening Too? [non-RUSH] See if you can catch it....(this is, of course, unless you are too CLOSED-MINDED to be able to attempt it......) My question it, why to folks think they get to tell others what is right for them? I think people are sometimes afraid of what they are not familiar with, and until pretty recently most transgender people didn't feel they could safely 'come out' in open society. What a hard journey though. Something as little as this could be difficult. When I used to work at a library, we had to record a driver's license number for a new library card (in case the person stole all our books/DVDs.) I was helping one woman and she was asking why did we do this etc etc and when I really looked up at her I suddenly realized she was pretty masculine and probably didn't want me to see her sex on her DL. I finally told her, "just read me the number" and she was so happy; a devoted library fan from then on. UMoveme, I agree with your comment also. My daughter does graphic design and is therefore in the arts community, which in Central PA has its fair share of gay and trans persons. I used the wrong word one time about someone who was trans (I think I asked her if they were "changing" rather than "transitioning" ) and she gave me a speech about how hard the LGBTQ community has worked for their rights and could I please use the right vocabulary to give them respect. So yes, that could tend to put some people off. (Luckily she is youngest child so by this time I just ignore political rants if I already have respect toward the group in question.) My husband and I are both in our 50's. We tell our kids in irony that there were no gay or trans people when we grew up. We honestly never heard of them until we were like 11 yrs. old. The world is much better in that respect now. :) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But Treeduck said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years. Edited January 5, 2016 by Dr. Sheldon Cooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But the OP said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years. A child prodigy !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But Treeduck said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years.Well let me put it this way, I first heard of him in 1976 and so it's about 40 years of him being a guy in my perception, that must be too long for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But the OP said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years. A child prodigy !!!Actually the most annoying thing about Jenner is the rest of his family and their endless appearance in the media. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But Treeduck said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years.Well let me put it this way, I first heard of him in 1976 and so it's about 40 years of him being a guy in my perception, that must be too long for me. He might be 66 years old, as old as my mother. But he's been a Decathlon winner for almost 44 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But the OP said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years. A child prodigy !!!Actually the most annoying thing about Jenner is the rest of his family and their endless appearance in the media. YESSSSSSSS. . . . . . Some news story today was about Kim K. releasing a photo of holding her newest baby's finger ??!! so people will get excited and want to see more?? I dunno. Barf. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But the OP said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years. A child prodigy !!!Actually the most annoying thing about Jenner is the rest of his family and their endless appearance in the media. You mean the Kardashians and the Jenner spawn? I could not agree more with you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's just that Jenner has been a male Olympic decathlete for 66 years, I can't really think of him any other way. He can't help his gender issues and I can't help my perception issues of guys who've been guys for 60+ years. Sorry. He should have figured it out sooner. For 66 years? How old is he, and how old was he when he won the Decathlon? It was Montreal so he'd be 27. 27 when he won, maybe. But the OP said that Jenner had been a winner for 66 years. A child prodigy !!!Actually the most annoying thing about Jenner is the rest of his family and their endless appearance in the media. YESSSSSSSS. . . . . . Some news story today was about Kim K. releasing a photo of holding her newest baby's finger ??!! so people will get excited and want to see more?? I dunno. Barf.They do a selfie and it's in the Daily Mail which isn't even an American news outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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