bathory Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I adore Kansas, their seventies work is superior to Rush. you say that about every band you find. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Iron Maiden is THE band to see if Rush isn't around anymore. Other "must-see" bands that I can think of include Gov't Mule, Megadeth, PUSA, Michael Schenker Group, Priest, Bob Mould. Just saw Uli Jon Roth the other day and he was effing phenominal. I also see Electric Six every time they come around. Dinosaur Jr. too. Haven't seen 'em yet, but I hear The Darkness put on an amazing live show. No one can replace Rush though, for me. dinosaur jr's always a great show, and unlike rush, their shows really get better every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Tonight's Grammy performance confirmed that AC/DC is a must see act. If you've never been...do it! :fury: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemical Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 King Crimson and Tom Waits for me.. :boohoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'd say no one because no one does what Rush does best. But acts I would love to see are: Dream Theater, Tool (once they release their next album, they'll retire I think), Peter Gabriel, King Crimson, Tom Petty and Rammstein. And many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Suffice it to say, the music industry is so depressed that newer bands have the lifespan of goldfish. There simply is no money in recording new material unless it's radio play trash. Outside of pop tarts, you'll start to see a steep falloff in arena level shows. Personally I like finding new artists and then follow them as they progress. Since there's no patience from labels anymore, it's nearly impossible for new bands to survive. If Rush came out now, they wouldn't make it past their 2nd album. I blame music piracy and online streaming. And stupid people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I would agree about none. I can't think of a single band that is touring today that I would have to see. I would still like to see Kansas (even though they're doing the casino thing and that seems wrong to me) but it wouldn't be mandatory.My wife and I actually saw Kansas at the local casino last year. Very good show...although rather short...maybe an hour and 20 minutes. From the looks of the elderly crowd, they probably cut the show short because most people were up past their bedtimes. I heard the opposite but only because the fan that saw them recently was an OLD Kansas fan, and wanted to go see them post-Steve Walsh...He said that what's left of the band plays great, but they "lack something" without Steve. (I said "yeah their original lead vocalist") I've seen them a few times, but the best was the semi-recent tour when Robby Steinhardt went back to them...THAT was a great show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Suffice it to say, the music industry is so depressed that newer bands have the lifespan of goldfish. There simply is no money in recording new material unless it's radio play trash. Outside of pop tarts, you'll start to see a steep falloff in arena level shows. Personally I like finding new artists and then follow them as they progress. Since there's no patience from labels anymore, it's nearly impossible for new bands to survive. If Rush came out now, they wouldn't make it past their 2nd album. I blame music piracy and online streaming. And stupid people. I blame the issue of the lack of need for legitimate musicians in order to release a "single" which seems to be the only thing people want. Music changes like I change my underwear, and it's hard to keep track of who is doing what... it seems that all you need to do is release an entire album, and have ONE "hit" single in order to win Album of the year! The fact that that guy won four Grammy's and got Song of the year for what in essence was a stolen song from Tom Petty is ludicrous! I blame social media, and the media in general for "trending" music! BANDS have no place in modern music with how disposable music IS these days...way back you'd hear a song on the radio, you'd go BUY the album, you'd bring it home, and dissect it...then find your musician friends to try to replicate it and just dig the whole experience...now, you hear the single, you go online, you buy the single, you stick in on your iPod, and it gets into your "rotation" and comes up every 150-200 songs (if you even have that many) I wandered through my 15 year old niece's iPod once and she had no order of songs...as she gets them, she adds it..if she feels the need to listen to something...she searches for it, plays it, then let's it go back into random mode...She looked at my iPod and was amazed that some bands have 5-10 albums! (hell she couldn't believe I have over 100 Frank Zappa albums on mine) What people want out of music NOW is a lot different than what a lot of us wanted out of music years back...it's a more "hit" oriented society, and the hits are more of a trend than anything else...It's sad, really! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 All the Rush replacements mentioned here are as or almost as old as Rush. Is there no one on the scene that is as good as what we once had back in the day? King Crimson - Kansas - Iron Maiden - Tom Petty (!!?? he must be more ancient than me by now) ....... I'm glad I was born when I was and grew up when it was all happening and as it happened and not looking back and trying to absorb an entire music career in ten easy lessons. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 don't ask me. i avoid going to shows if i can, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 What people want out of music NOW is a lot different than what a lot of us wanted out of music years back...it's a more "hit" oriented society, and the hits are more of a trend than anything else...It's sad, really! But that's what we had - a hit oriented society - before the mid-sixties. Who bought albums? We all bought little 45s. When FM first appeared, it was the "underground" music. Prior to 1967 or so, all we had was the top forty on AM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 All the Rush replacements mentioned here are as or almost as old as Rush. Is there no one on the scene that is as good as what we once had back in the day? King Crimson - Kansas - Iron Maiden - Tom Petty...I'm thinking of the two young men in Beyond the Lighted Stage looking, talking and dressed as we were in the 80's. Many of the bands kids listen to is the same bands from 30 years ago. It is so hard to break out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) What people want out of music NOW is a lot different than what a lot of us wanted out of music years back...it's a more "hit" oriented society, and the hits are more of a trend than anything else...It's sad, really! But that's what we had - a hit oriented society - before the mid-sixties. Who bought albums? We all bought little 45s. When FM first appeared, it was the "underground" music. Prior to 1967 or so, all we had was the top forty on AM. True! before the mid 60's no one really HAD albums! (and it was probably 75% of the same guys playing on the records with the "artists") I remember my father who was brought up on 78's which were limited by their time... the Big Bands were like the "prog" guys of today...all playing these long tunes, that they had to edit to fit on one side! Thank GOD that they were able to get those old tapes and start re-releasing them, great stuff! And I'm also not really talking 60's, I'm more in line with the 70's...yeah we all bought our 25¢ 45's in the late 60's. but as the 70's came around it was you heard the band on the radio...you went and got their album, and learned the REST of their catalog! I remember the heat that all of the radio stations got for playing Bohemian Rhapsody! But THAT song got a lot of us to go out and buy that album, and then the back catalog! (and we found out it was good!) None of these "kids" really HAS a back catalog of more than one album before you stop hearing about them if they even have that, and most of what's ON their album is crap (not that the "hit" isn't crap) but most of what's left of their album is really bad, and probably contains at LEAST one cover tune! Edited February 9, 2015 by Jaminbenb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I blame music piracy and online streaming. And stupid people. I forgot to make a comment on that when I did my earlier rant (and that's why I included your post) The music piracy and online streaming is only something that's "technically" a way around what we all did years back...we used to borrow and record people albums...record stuff off of the radio, borrow someone's CD and make a cassette tape..or as it got easier...borrowed the CD and burned a quick copy... what you speak of is nothing new at all! It's just a little easier to get and takes less time... I have a box of copied cassettes, a box of copied CD-r's etc.....but I also have a whole lot of albums, cassettes, and CD's that I bought from the various bands. As do my friends and I'm sure your friends... (well unless you're under 30) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Before the mid 60's no one HAD albums! We most certainly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Before the mid 60's no one HAD albums! We most certainly did. I'm talking more about the "hit" people! It was almost like today where it was a hit a b-side, and then that was it...(although now, there's really no B side) I'm not saying that there WEREN'T albums...and people didn't OWN albums..they were just not the big thing at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaFellaStrangiato Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Over the last ten years or so, I've gravitated to bands with "B-level" fame, who tend to play smaller venues. Tickets are cheaper, and shows feel more intimate. I see more shows from bands like Tool, Queens of the Stone Age, King Crimson. Once Rush calls it quits, I'll probably devote my concert-going experiences to shows like these. Arena Rock is almost dead, having been replaced by Arena Pop, for the most part, and that's fine with me. The best "must see" bands are still thriving, on a much smaller scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bard Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Arena Rock is almost dead, having been replaced by Arena Pop, for the most part, and that's fine with me. The best "must see" bands are still thriving, on a much smaller scale. This. Arena rock only has a few big players still in the game. Otherwise, rock is playing amps, sheds, and casinos from 2-10k capacity. 20k arenas, or 90k stadiums, a handful at best can properly play those venues anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coventry Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 All the Rush replacements mentioned here are as or almost as old as Rush. Is there no one on the scene that is as good as what we once had back in the day? King Crimson - Kansas - Iron Maiden - Tom Petty (!!?? he must be more ancient than me by now) ....... I'm glad I was born when I was and grew up when it was all happening and as it happened and not looking back and trying to absorb an entire music career in ten easy lessons. I agree, Lorraine. Like I posted before, there are a bunch of good artists out there. I'd love to catch Sufjan Stevens when he comes around. Or The National. Or a few really good jazz artists. But I often wonder whether any of these artists would trigger the instant, "must-have" reaction in me when it comes to tickets. Phish does, but the other artists I mentioned in this post and others don't really, certainly not to the same degree. Tears For Fears would if they expand their touring. But even they are a dinosaur band, despite the new music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I adore Kansas, their seventies work is superior to Rush. you say that about every band you find. Lately its been true...Kansas, Yes, Tull... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coventry Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Arena Rock is almost dead, having been replaced by Arena Pop, for the most part, and that's fine with me. The best "must see" bands are still thriving, on a much smaller scale. This. Arena rock only has a few big players still in the game. Otherwise, rock is playing amps, sheds, and casinos from 2-10k capacity. 20k arenas, or 90k stadiums, a handful at best can properly play those venues anymore. As music becomes more niche-oriented and more accessible - and more visual in terms of youtube and such - then that collective draw is becoming more rare. U2? Katy Perry? One Direction? Who else could fill the Meadowlands or a 60K-capacity stadium? But that's also an extreme. Few bands in history could consistently fill that large of a venue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Arena Rock is almost dead Can I die now? because this is NOT the life I ordered 20 years ago. Why wait until I'm 90 and even more miserable? :( Edited February 10, 2015 by fraroc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Arena Rock is almost dead Can I die now? because this is NOT the life I ordered 20 years ago. Why wait until I'm 90 and even more miserable? :( small shows are usually better, though 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I adore Kansas, their seventies work is superior to Rush. you say that about every band you find. , Tull... :dweez: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 [quote name=bathory' I am edgingclosetimestamp='1423451261' post='3434745]I adore Kansas, their seventies work is superior to Rush. you say that about every band you find. , Tull... :dweez: Tull wrote epics far beyond the abilities of Rush's best work. So did Yes. I love Rush, but the more I discover from that era the less impressed I am with their early work. I still love them, but Close To The Edge, Thick As Brick, Topographic Oceans, Leftoverture and even The Grand Illusion and Pieces Of Eight have left a bigger impression on me than the likes of Hems, FBN or even my beloved CoS. But I don't see that as a bad thing. Rush will always be a phenomenal band, and I remain a massive fan, and I never would have given these other bands a chance if it hadn't been for Rush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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