Narps Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.I will use the word dis-like. I dis-like most everything from 1986 - 2011. Sounds awful when you think about it doesn't it? It even does to me but it's true. Narpet, you need to quit hanging around Toronto mayor Rob Ford because you must be on crack.I had my head covered. I knew it was coming but the truth has always set me free..... Well at least you didn't say that listening to "Headlong Flight" is a chore, as the notorious Goobs once opinedI knew I forgot something :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.I will use the word dis-like. I dis-like most everything from 1986 - 2011. Sounds awful when you think about it doesn't it? It even does to me but it's true. Narpet, you need to quit hanging around Toronto mayor Rob Ford because you must be on crack.I had my head covered. I knew it was coming but the truth has always set me free..... Well at least you didn't say that listening to "Headlong Flight" is a chore, as the notorious Goobs once opinedI knew I forgot something :D That's how I knew Goobs is a gas huffer, cause only someone who huffs gas is capable of such a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore fan, but hate everything after 2000.Hey...did you ever get yer badge? ?2112 posts, mate. http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?/topic/1006-trf-solar-federalist-hallowed-hall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 they're hits for a reason - they're kick ass tunes. besides, you got plenty of deep cuts, just not the ones you wanted. personally, I'd take all the synth era songs over anything off test for echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore fan, but hate everything after 2000.Hey...did you ever get yer badge? ?2112 posts, mate. http://www.therushfo...-hallowed-hall/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FT6nUdZNhO4 Edited November 26, 2013 by goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarcasm Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 In terms of hits, the first set has Subdivisions, The Big Money (I guess), and Far Cry, along with a ton of deeper cuts that would bore casual fans.If I were a casual fan...or a big fan...and this were the only show I got to see in my lifetime, I'd have been very disappointed. Way too many esoteric tunes for the casual listener. I'm pretty certain no average Joe was hoping for a combination New Stuff/Power Windows tribute night, which is kind of what they got.And what a grand night it was...stellar. If Clockwork Angels doesn't hit ya hard—turn in your Rush card!Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.I will use the word dis-like. I dis-like most everything from 1986 - 2011. Sounds awful when you think about it doesn't it? It even does to me but it's true. Are you meaning to tell me you don't like (Ahem) 1. Force Ten2. Turn the Page3. Dreamline (live versions mind you)4. Animate5 Leave That Thing Alone6. Limbo7. Workin them Angels8. tMMB I can agree that Presto sucks almost entirely, but come on you "dislike" 27 years of Rush content? I've been told to turn in my "Rush card" once in this thread already, maybe they should talk to you instead. How can you not get bored of playing the same 11 Rush albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000. you hate everything after 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 In terms of hits, the first set has Subdivisions, The Big Money (I guess), and Far Cry, along with a ton of deeper cuts that would bore casual fans.If I were a casual fan...or a big fan...and this were the only show I got to see in my lifetime, I'd have been very disappointed. Way too many esoteric tunes for the casual listener. I'm pretty certain no average Joe was hoping for a combination New Stuff/Power Windows tribute night, which is kind of what they got.And what a grand night it was...stellar. If Clockwork Angels doesn't hit ya hard—turn in your Rush card!Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.I will use the word dis-like. I dis-like most everything from 1986 - 2011. Sounds awful when you think about it doesn't it? It even does to me but it's true. Are you meaning to tell me you don't like (Ahem) 1. Force Ten2. Turn the Page3. Dreamline (live versions mind you)4. Animate5 Leave That Thing Alone6. Limbo7. Workin them Angels8. tMMB I can agree that Presto sucks almost entirely, but come on you "dislike" 27 years of Rush content? I've been told to turn in my "Rush card" once in this thread already, maybe they should talk to you instead. How can you not get bored of playing the same 11 Rush albums? just ask guys like mike portnoy or eddie trunk... I guess they love 2112 so much they never wanna hear anything else. I don't get it either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 that being said I can understand someone not liking most of the songs you named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarcasm Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 they're hits for a reason - they're kick ass tunes. besides, you got plenty of deep cuts, just not the ones you wanted. personally, I'd take all the synth era songs over anything off test for echo.I wasn't referring just to this tour, but more so to how these live albums are put together. As someone who has never had the luxury of going to a Rush concert, I really anticipate these live albums and when the same songs are continuously given space on the cd it aggravates me. Play it live, fine. But don't put it on the album. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 they're hits for a reason - they're kick ass tunes. besides, you got plenty of deep cuts, just not the ones you wanted. personally, I'd take all the synth era songs over anything off test for echo.I wasn't referring just to this tour, but more so to how these live albums are put together. As someone who has never had the luxury of going to a Rush concert, I really anticipate these live albums and when the same songs are continuously given space on the cd it aggravates me. Play it live, fine. But don't put it on the album. .or just skip it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus 2112 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 they're hits for a reason - they're kick ass tunes. besides, you got plenty of deep cuts, just not the ones you wanted. personally, I'd take all the synth era songs over anything off test for echo.I wasn't referring just to this tour, but more so to how these live albums are put together. As someone who has never had the luxury of going to a Rush concert, I really anticipate these live albums and when the same songs are continuously given space on the cd it aggravates me. Play it live, fine. But don't put it on the album. .Are you saying you want a live album with only 10 songs that no casual fan has heard of? Not gonna happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarcasm Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 they're hits for a reason - they're kick ass tunes. besides, you got plenty of deep cuts, just not the ones you wanted. personally, I'd take all the synth era songs over anything off test for echo.I wasn't referring just to this tour, but more so to how these live albums are put together. As someone who has never had the luxury of going to a Rush concert, I really anticipate these live albums and when the same songs are continuously given space on the cd it aggravates me. Play it live, fine. But don't put it on the album. .Are you saying you want a live album with only 10 songs that no casual fan has heard of? Not gonna happen.Yes you are right, but just how large is the market for casual fans buying live albums? Especially modern live albums. I'm serious, how many times do you think a casual fan has walked into their record store, thought to himself Jeez I heard a song by triumph on the radio that I was really digging—no, wait that was Rush! I wonder what they have? Hmmmm lets see... greatest hits, greatest hits, Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves.... Hey what's this? Clockwork angels Live. Huh I know like 3 songs here I think. Wow they really look in their prime on the cover also. I know! I'll buy this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 alright you have a point. who gives a f**k why they play what they play though? the majority (myself included) still digs tom sawyer, spirit of radio, limelight, etc. I'll admit I was disappointed for about two seconds when I got limelight at both my CA shows and not body electric or middletown. but I still loved the performance because limelight's a killer f***ing song! plus, it injected some energy to the place right about everybody was starting to fall asleep after grand designs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke1 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Mmmmmmmmm, not sure about not putting them on the CD... For example R30... In an attempt to not repeat songs that were on Rush in Rio they left, from memory, 8 songs off it and the accompanying DVD. Then the Blu Ray came out with the whole show, which I honestly enjoyed more. Even if it means repeating songs I think I'd prefer the whole show where possible. Edited November 26, 2013 by Duke1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas7 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The strangest thing was being in the UK in the eighties. After the Signals tour in 1983 Rush didn't tour until 1988, which meant there was a huge change in the set list. It went from the Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves, Signals list to the Power Windows, Grace Under Pressure, Hold Your Fire list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) In terms of hits, the first set has Subdivisions, The Big Money (I guess), and Far Cry, along with a ton of deeper cuts that would bore casual fans.If I were a casual fan...or a big fan...and this were the only show I got to see in my lifetime, I'd have been very disappointed. Way too many esoteric tunes for the casual listener. I'm pretty certain no average Joe was hoping for a combination New Stuff/Power Windows tribute night, which is kind of what they got.And what a grand night it was...stellar. If Clockwork Angels doesn't hit ya hard—turn in your Rush card!Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.I will use the word dis-like. I dis-like most everything from 1986 - 2011. Sounds awful when you think about it doesn't it? It even does to me but it's true. Are you meaning to tell me you don't like (Ahem) 1. Force Ten2. Turn the Page3. Dreamline (live versions mind you)4. Animate5 Leave That Thing Alone6. Limbo7. Workin them Angels8. tMMB I can agree that Presto sucks almost entirely, but come on you "dislike" 27 years of Rush content? I've been told to turn in my "Rush card" once in this thread already, maybe they should talk to you instead. How can you not get bored of playing the same 11 Rush albums?I like some of the songs here and there but am not emotionally invested in the "albums" as a whole. I couldn't tell you every song, lyric and note like I could the earlier albums. Life and circumstances change as we go along. My life changed when my daughter was born in 1987 and I didn't care for the direction of the music anyway. Basically I stopped buying albums and going to shows and focusing on music like I did in my youth. Had to grow up at some point. Those years are not great years for music in general anyway in my view so I feel good with my choice....... :codger: Truth be told, the soundtrack of my life was recorded from around 1970 - 1980. I would be content to listen to that till they shovel me into fiery furnace...... Edited November 26, 2013 by Narpet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000. you hate everything after 1982 Au contrare, muchacho Edited November 26, 2013 by GeminiRising79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000. you hate everything after 1982 Au contrare, muchacho perhaps hate is the wrong word....loathe? despise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The K Man Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Rush does a tour where they play almost all of their new album and tons of songs that hadn't been played in 20+ years, and some fans still have to bitch. I guess it's true: no matter what they do, someone will always complain. I hope they keep not giving a crap what fans think and just play what they want to play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000. you hate everything after 1982 Au contrare, muchacho perhaps hate is the wrong word....loathe? despise? My interest in releases following Power Windows decreased logarithmically up until the hiatus period. There were still some great material in those albums, of course, but became more and more sparse with time. I don't identify with any of the post-hiatus music. Its possible I'm evolving away from Rush. Still love everything up to (and including) Power Windows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore fan, but hate everything after 2000.Hey...did you ever get yer badge? ?2112 posts, mate. http://www.therushfo...-hallowed-hall/ Thanks Goose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000. you hate everything after 1982 Au contrare, muchacho perhaps hate is the wrong word....loathe? despise? My interest in releases following Power Windows decreased logarithmically up until the hiatus period. There were still some great material in those albums, of course, but became more and more sparse with time. I don't identify with any of the post-hiatus music. Its possible I'm evolving away from Rush. Still love everything up to (and including) Power Windows. fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.then you are not a hard Core Fan. A hard core fan understands that " No Changes are Permanent" and excepts what ever direction they have decided to venture towards. Including recording and touring with Keyboards or Strings. :codger: Actually you can create a great and versatile set list with just songs from Counterparts onward. Alternates are in Italics. Set 1: Far CryCaravanBU2B (album Version-(Never Played Live)Cut to the Chase (Never Played Live)Vapor Trail (Never Played Live)Earth Shine / Half the WorldDriven (with Bass Solo)Limbo / Drum Solo #1 / Main Monkey BusinessCeiling Unlimited (Remixed w-solo) (Never Played Live) One Little Victory (Remixed w-Solo) (Never Played Live) Set 2: The AnarchistCarniesStick it OutAlien Shore (Never Played Live)Sweet Miracle (Never Played Live)Working Them Angels / Way the Wind BlowsNobody's HeroThe WreckersThe GardenMal-Nar/ Drum Solo #2Alex's Electric Solo - Seven Cities of Gold / Animate Test For EchoClockwork Angels Encore: Cold FireSecret TouchHeadlong Flight :rush: :haz: :rush: Edited November 27, 2013 by losingit2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Most " classic rock " bands avoid their new material, if any , like the plague, cause they know the fans could give a shit .. Rush fans are more hardcore than that. I'm a hardcore "fan", but hate everything after 2000.then you are not a hard Core Fan. A hard core fan understands that " No Changes are Permanent" and excepts what ever direction they have decided to venture towards. Including recording and touring with Keyboards and Strings. :codger: Your definition of hardcore fan is one that accepts compromise. What u are describing is a "blind" fan. One that is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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