goose Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 QUOTE (ArrowSnake @ May 22 2012, 02:43 PM) I love Driven and Time & Motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioc Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 TFE makes a really strong case for validating the value of the digital mixtape. Now I can create a "Listeners Cut" of the album without the songs that I consider 'stinkers' and I like it every time. Who knew? Now I'm a TFE fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangster of Goats Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I've always liked TFE, song-wise, for the most part. I have to ignore the lyrics to Virtuality like most everyone else though.  Probably my two favorite songs off it are Color of Right and Carve Away the Stone. Two songs I often see referenced to as duffers by other fans, hehe. The title track sometimes drags a little bit, but I will always love the classic Alex arpeggiated guitar in the choruses. Probably my biggest complaint about the album is that it sounds a bit sludgy overall, and the remaster doesn't really improve things to my ears. In fact, I prefer the original master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 QUOTE (Bangster of Goats @ May 24 2012, 07:23 AM) Probably my two favorite songs off it are Color of Right and Carve Away the Stone. Interesting. Easily my bottom two from TFE (still good songs though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 TFE is certainly WAY better than people give it credit for here. I like every song, and Virtuality kicks major ass (despite what people love to say about the lyrics). Time & Motion is still my favourite from the album, but Virtuality, Driven, Resist, Limbo, and the title track are all outstanding songs as well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossedSignals Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 24 2012, 11:06 AM) TFE is certainly WAY better than people give it credit for here. I like every song, and Virtuality kicks major ass (despite what people love to say about the lyrics). Time & Motion is still my favourite from the album, but Virtuality, Driven, Resist, Limbo, and the title track are all outstanding songs as well IMO. Â Â Â Â Â Sorry.... I just couldn't resist after seeing people do that time after time when VT is mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 QUOTE (CrossedSignals @ May 24 2012, 03:15 PM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 24 2012, 11:06 AM) TFE is certainly WAY better than people give it credit for here. I like every song, and Virtuality kicks major ass (despite what people love to say about the lyrics). Time & Motion is still my favourite from the album, but Virtuality, Driven, Resist, Limbo, and the title track are all outstanding songs as well IMO.      Sorry.... I just couldn't resist after seeing people do that time after time when VT is mentioned. True, but with VT...it's kind of valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossedSignals Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 24 2012, 04:51 PM) QUOTE (CrossedSignals @ May 24 2012, 03:15 PM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 24 2012, 11:06 AM) TFE is certainly WAY better than people give it credit for here. I like every song, and Virtuality kicks major ass (despite what people love to say about the lyrics). Time & Motion is still my favourite from the album, but Virtuality, Driven, Resist, Limbo, and the title track are all outstanding songs as well IMO.      Sorry.... I just couldn't resist after seeing people do that time after time when VT is mentioned. True, but with VT...it's kind of valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New World Kid Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I think this album gets the most mileage with me as a drum-along album. It's so jazzy, it's so much fun to learn and play. But I also very much like Totem lyrically.  Driven, Half the World, Time and Motion, Totem, Resist and Limbo are all really good songs in my book. Dog Years and Virtuality are good musically, but lyrically fall short. Color of Right is sort of bland. Carve Away the Stone is absolutely bland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I don't listen to it very often, but I've always liked 'Half The World' and am not ashamed to admit it. Â Like someone else pointed out, TFE had a very fuzzy overdistorted sound that annoyed me. I remember when it came out my friend Dave who got me into Rush complaining that Limbo "just sounds like Alex is playing noise" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldRush Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 T4E is a good album. Not one of their best... Half the world is a solid one, Totem is a song I'd like to hear in a show. Carve away the stone do the job... Driven ? I skip it all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohnson30 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 TFE is ok. There are actually a decent number of good moments on it. I really like Totem and the title track and a few of the others. I wouldn't rank it among the top half of their albums, but I wouldn't put it in the bottom 5 either. Still with that being said I don't listen to it much. When I'm in the mood for music from that time period I'll usually put on Counterparts or Vapor Trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianice Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 QUOTE (mjohnson30 @ May 25 2012, 11:05 PM) TFE is ok. There are actually a decent number of good moments on it. I really like Totem and the title track and a few of the others. I wouldn't rank it among the top half of their albums, but I wouldn't put it in the bottom 5 either. Still with that being said I don't listen to it much. When I'm in the mood for music from that time period I'll usually put on Counterparts or Vapor Trails. right on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughes&kettner Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Are the people who hate on dog years not "dog people"?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animate Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yay T4E! Some of my favorite songs! Driven, Half the World, Totem is fun! Risist! Limbo! My favorite is "The Color or Right", even though it is a sad song it is a "real" song that hits home if you have a spouse that travels a lot.  Virtuality musically is a top notch rocker, if Neil had not committed serious lyrics crimes it would be a favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStopThinkingBig Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Virtuality = hey its the mid-90s, and I hear there's this new thing called the "world wide web"... people can send messages to each other through a computer! wow... I'm going to write a song about this. - NP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchemingDemon Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (hughes&kettner @ May 27 2012, 09:41 AM) Are the people who hate on dog years not "dog people"? I love dogs, it's just a shitty song QUOTE (CantStopThinkingBig)Virtuality = hey its the mid-90s, and I hear there's this new thing called the "world wide web"... people can send messages to each other through a computer! wow... I'm going to write a song about this. - NP "And these lyrics certainly won't be laughable in 10 years!" Edited May 28, 2012 by SchemingDemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossedSignals Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 QUOTE (hughes&kettner @ May 27 2012, 10:41 AM) Are the people who hate on dog years not "dog people"? Dogs are wonderful! I'm just opposed to torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyLeeRoth Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 T4E is a solid album, but definately one of my least faves. This album lacks anything resembling a classic. I actually think all of the songs are at least 'good', some nearly 'great', but no home runs, and not as memorable. Its still better than RTB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream-Theater*#2358 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) People are gonna hate me for this, but I actually think Dog Years is a really good song! The guitar is awesome , and the lyrics aren't THAT bad. I do have to agree that the album isn't one of Rush's more memorable albums. It's kinda underrated, though. Edited June 2, 2012 by Dream-Theater*#2358 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The title track still sits among my favorite Rush songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohnson30 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 QUOTE (Dream-Theater*#2358 @ Jun 1 2012, 09:33 PM) People are gonna hate me for this, but I actually think Dog Years is a really good song! The guitar is awesome , and the lyrics aren't THAT bad. I do have to agree that the album isn't one of Rush's more memorable albums. It's kinda underrated, though. The first 10 seconds rock pretty good. Then it's all downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin City Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Honestly? A collection of songs by a band dying on its arse. l believe that had Neil not had his double tragedy at this point they were done and in a strange way those tragic events breathed new life into the band, almost like a second chance. I'm hoping that Clockwork Angels is the last part of that cycle that sees the band accepted and recognised as one of the greatest rock bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 QUOTE (mjohnson30 @ Jun 2 2012, 08:34 AM) QUOTE (Dream-Theater*#2358 @ Jun 1 2012, 09:33 PM) People are gonna hate me for this, but I actually think Dog Years is a really good song! The guitar is awesome , and the lyrics aren't THAT bad. I do have to agree that the album isn't one of Rush's more memorable albums. It's kinda underrated, though. The first 10 seconds rock pretty good. Then it's all downhill from there. i agree. it's like a snowball going downhill building up rock n roll speed and coolness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I have always liked this album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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