Digital Dad Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 JA and RW should take it over again. They could do another Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe. (actually was a really good tour with Tony Levin or Jeff Berlin on Bass!!) But it will never happen. ABWR!! ;). Bruford refired though. RAWW. OK fine...Just call it Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't regard Yes as Yes anymore. But that is me...I keep thinking that Toto is touring with a bizarre tribute band! some bands can get away with swaping members for me. such as Toto. They swapped vocalists all the time and bass players. Spock's Beard is another....swapping Vocalists and i still buy every record. Yes is not that band. No Jon Anderson no Dice. or even Wakeman and now Squire. Yup to me Yes has disbanded. MickI don't believe Yes needed Anderson to be Yes. Drama is a Yes album to my ears, more so than the two that followed. But the last couple of albums, the lineup, the music, the tours: ouch. Drama has ok songs with a poor vocalist, IMO. The newer stuff. whoever it is sounds like he's on constant auto-tune. just awful. And Anderson was more then willing to come back in......the rest said nope. idiots. Mick I like Drama. 5/10, but not offensively bad like Union or [insert any post Union album here]. I tried The Ladder, Magnification and the rest, but aside from Keys, it all felt hollow. Too much looking back, or picking the worst elements of the respective current scene. The Ladder sounded like a Yes remix album to my ears! I love Drama. The rest nah. No thank you. Agree about Keys though. It had potential to be amazing but Wakeman left then Squire made a solo album called Open Your Eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Don't get me wrong...it's STILL good music..but it feels like a damn tribute act more than anything else! I saw them with Benoit David a few years back, and it wasn't great...then I just saw this tour last week, and it's "ok". Some bands can get by with a replacement lead singer. (and like someone mentioned above...Toto is one of them...but each singer had their own identity, and you identify that guy with those tunes...although Joseph Williams handled the older stuff rather well) But Yes isn't a band that you can get away with a different singer...neither is Styx, or Led Zeppelin, or Queen.... Pink Floyd was different without Roger Waters...but they handled his stuff rather well...but when I saw Roger solo those few times you KNOW who the main "voice" of the band really was! Yes should probably go off respectably into the sunset after this tour is over.....(Steve Howe should do a solo tour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've enjoyed fake yes every time I've seen them. I'd even call the 2nd time I saw them a great concert. but I'll be skipping the toto tour - no squire (so now howe and white are the only reasons to see them) and the set is like a shitty greatest hits record. you'd think they'd want to pull out a deep cut to try and prove that they still "got it" but they're not even pretending anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalHemisphereGarden Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've enjoyed fake yes every time I've seen them. I'd even call the 2nd time I saw them a great concert. but I'll be skipping the toto tour - no squire (so now howe and white are the only reasons to see them) and the set is like a shitty greatest hits record. you'd think they'd want to pull out a deep cut to try and prove that they still "got it" but they're not even pretending anymore. I saw Yes on this Toto tour, and I do think the setlist is not good. I was disappointed that they did not play To Be Over, a song that was rumored to be in the set before the tour started. I enjoyed seeing them, but I definitely would not have gone if I had seen them before or if they did not play a show that was 15 minutes from my house like they did this tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've enjoyed fake yes every time I've seen them. I'd even call the 2nd time I saw them a great concert. but I'll be skipping the toto tour - no squire (so now howe and white are the only reasons to see them) and the set is like a shitty greatest hits record. you'd think they'd want to pull out a deep cut to try and prove that they still "got it" but they're not even pretending anymore. I saw Yes on this Toto tour, and I do think the setlist is not good. I was disappointed that they did not play To Be Over, a song that was rumored to be in the set before the tour started. I enjoyed seeing them, but I definitely would not have gone if I had seen them before or if they did not play a show that was 15 minutes from my house like they did this tour. it's just totally lazy! the only people still going to yes concerts are the "diehards" anyway, so why does the band feel like they have to play the same songs every tour? this set is like if rush went on tour and did tom sawyer, yyz, limelight, tsor, closer to the heart, overture/temples and nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) JA and RW should take it over again. They could do another Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe. (actually was a really good tour with Tony Levin or Jeff Berlin on Bass!!) But it will never happen. Felt lucky that I got to see that the first time around, and other than the Union Tour, the ABWH tour is STILL my favorite Yes concert! Bruford is "officially retired"....so that version will never exist again, sadly! I've enjoyed fake yes every time I've seen them. I'd even call the 2nd time I saw them a great concert. but I'll be skipping the toto tour - no squire (so now howe and white are the only reasons to see them) and the set is like a shitty greatest hits record. you'd think they'd want to pull out a deep cut to try and prove that they still "got it" but they're not even pretending anymore. Deep cut "highlight" was Tempus Fugit.... A. Because Downes was there and B. Because Anderson didn't sing on it anyway...so no MAJOR loss.... The best "Yes" track I saw was Siberian Khatru because Howe just ripped that ending solo to shreds! I went to that show mainly because I never got to see Toto live, and thought this was a great opportunity...it was a "dual headline" show, so both bands played for 90 minutes... Edited August 21, 2015 by Jaminbenb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 They're a shell of what they once were (and if not, much less than that)? Hmmm... They're disgracing two (and if not, more) crucial members to the band by continuing without them? They're classless and without respect to the men who made the band so great to begin with? ...Oh come one, that's hogwash. What's most infuriating is that Jon Anderson has been well for many years and he really wants to come back. And Rick Wakeman even said Anderson not being there is the only thing keeping him from rejoining the band. Anderson, Wakeman, Howe, and White would be a fine representation of Yes because Squire said to go on without him. But replacing 3/5 of the band? They're a f***ing cover band at that point. And they aren't some project run by one mastermind like King Crimson. That's why KC isn't playing casinos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I prefer Toto at this point. But remove the three odd bodies and bring back Wakeman and Anderson, and I would be thrilled! Then I would be like "Toto who?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I prefer Toto at this point. But remove the three odd bodies and bring back Wakeman and Anderson, and I would be thrilled! Then I would be like "Toto who?" My problem with that statement is they are two bands that are unlikely compatriots... I was amazed when I heard they were touring...and while I love both band's music...it's a totally different "head" for me when I listen to them...Yes is prog...Toto is rock (and borderline pop in some cases) with a heavy musician/groove kind of feel to it. Usually when I listen to Toto, I'm either coming off of a Steely Dan kind of brain, or going into one... I can't remember a time when I pulled a Toto album out right after a Yes album, except if they were released the same day, and I had them both in my car at the same time....Toto is Toto...and what was Yes is Yes.... Anyway....if RICK Wakeman and Jon Anderson were doing something "Yes related" then I'd be thrilled! I'm going to see Jon Anderson and John Luc Ponty in October (I think that's when) and hoping that they do some old Yes stuff...interested to hear Ponty's take on things.... But I'm on the "Yes isn't yes without Jon boat" ...I've seen them twice without him, and it's JUST not the same..I've seen Jon solo, and that's more Yes than what I saw last week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djflex Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I think anderson is doing an album with jean luc ponty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I prefer Toto at this point. But remove the three odd bodies and bring back Wakeman and Anderson, and I would be thrilled! Then I would be like "Toto who?" My problem with that statement is they are two bands that are unlikely compatriots... I was amazed when I heard they were touring...and while I love both band's music...it's a totally different "head" for me when I listen to them...Yes is prog...Toto is rock (and borderline pop in some cases) with a heavy musician/groove kind of feel to it. Usually when I listen to Toto, I'm either coming off of a Steely Dan kind of brain, or going into one... I can't remember a time when I pulled a Toto album out right after a Yes album, except if they were released the same day, and I had them both in my car at the same time....Toto is Toto...and what was Yes is Yes.... Anyway....if RICK Wakeman and Jon Anderson were doing something "Yes related" then I'd be thrilled! I'm going to see Jon Anderson and John Luc Ponty in October (I think that's when) and hoping that they do some old Yes stuff...interested to hear Ponty's take on things.... But I'm on the "Yes isn't yes without Jon boat" ...I've seen them twice without him, and it's JUST not the same..I've seen Jon solo, and that's more Yes than what I saw last week.... I made the comparison based solely on who I would go the concert most excitedly to see. I would probably head to the bar when Yes play and just enjoy Toto. If Wakeman and Anderson returned, Toto would be an awesome to bonus haha! And I agree with what you say, but I love how two very different bands share a lineup. But Toto are not touring with the real Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 This band touring with Toto right now is not Yes to me. A Maybe, at best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Really? I had no idea Anderson was releasing new music...how is his voice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Really? I had no idea Anderson was releasing new music...how is his voice? I saw Jon during his last tour and his voice was great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Really? I had no idea Anderson was releasing new music...how is his voice? I saw Jon during his last tour and his voice was great. Excellent! I have a lot to catch up on with Yes. I hope to complete my studio album collection this year and then look into side projects (honestly not the hugest fan of Rick Wakeman's solo work...). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Really? I had no idea Anderson was releasing new music...how is his voice? I saw Jon during his last tour and his voice was great. Excellent! I have a lot to catch up on with Yes. I hope to complete my studio album collection this year and then look into side projects (honestly not the hugest fan of Rick Wakeman's solo work...). I agree about Rick. Six Wives was good but the rest...? I did buy and see the "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" album/tour but I haven't listen to the album since the 70's. Chris Squire's Fish Out of Water is excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Really? I had no idea Anderson was releasing new music...how is his voice? I saw Jon during his last tour and his voice was great. Excellent! I have a lot to catch up on with Yes. I hope to complete my studio album collection this year and then look into side projects (honestly not the hugest fan of Rick Wakeman's solo work...). I agree about Rick. Six Wives was good but the rest...? I did buy and see the "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" album/tour but I haven't listen to the album since the 70's. Chris Squire's Fish Out of Water is excellent. I loved the Squackett album so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Great band! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Great band! YEEEESSSS! I discovered them through this forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Great band! YEEEESSSS! I discovered them through this forum. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self-Indulgence Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 ARW - US tour dates 10/4 Orlando, FL – Hard Rock Live10/6 Hollywood, FL – Seminole Hard Rock Casino10/7 Clearwater, FL – Ruth Eckerd Hall10/9 Durham, NC – Durham Performing Arts Ctr10/10 Atlanta, GA – Fox Theatre10/15 Glenside, PA – Keswick Theatre10/16 Glenside, PA – Keswick Theatre10/19 Boston, MA – Wang Theatre10/21 Wallingford, CT – Toyota Oakdale Theatre10/22 Huntington, NY – The Paramount10/24 Montclair, NJ – Wellmont Theater10/26 Red Bank, NJ – Count Basie Theatre10/28 Atlantic City, NJ – Borgata Event Center10/29 Akron, OH – Goodyear Theater at East End11/1 New York, NY – Beacon Theatre11/2 Pittsburgh, PA – Heinz Hall11/4 New Buffalo, MI – Four Winds Casino11/5 Chicago, IL – Chicago Theatre11/7 Nashville, TN – Schermerhorn Symphony Ctr11/9 St. Louis, MO – Fox Theatre11/11 New Orleans, LA – Saenger Theatre11/12 San Antonio, TX – Majestic Theatre11/14 Austin, TX – ACL at the Moody Theater11/16 Denver, CO – Paramount Theatre11/17 Salt Lake City, UT – Capitol Theater11/19 Las Vegas, NV – The Pearl11/20 Phoenix, AZ – Celebrity Theatre11/22 Los Angeles, CA – Orpheum11/25 San Francisco, CA – Masonic I bought a balcony ticket for the LA show. Orch was $170.00!It's gonna be great to see Rick perform again. It's been too long since the 2004 tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Anderson/Stolt's The Invention of Knowledge is stunning. A contender for album of the year & the best Yes-related offering since Magnification. A beautiful, sweeping, human album. Really? I had no idea Anderson was releasing new music...how is his voice? Astonishingly good. So clear, still angelic. And far far better than it was on Anderson/Ponty. This is the closest thing to a classic sounding Yes album I've heard in years. It SOARS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I´m even afraid to ask, but how is Billy Sherwood doing replacing Chris Squire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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