Principled Man Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 This is going to be really good or really shit.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 This is going to be really good or really shit.... It has Aquaman, Thanos, Drax the Destroyer and Dr. Eric Selvig in it, so what could possibly go wrong? ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I was so alarmed when I saw the Bladerunner sequel trailer a few years ago. I thought it was going to massively suck. I was so wrong. It’s one of my favorite films ever. Jared Leto couldn’t even screw it up. So this trailer gives off the same vibe. That this movie will suck. But it will prob be awesome. My main question: Why does it seem like so much of the film is influenced by David Lynch’s 1984 film? Like some shots are nearly identical. The fremen look VERY similar. The shot where Paul runs from the worm to stable ground is right from the older film! Clearly some sort of homage is going on, despite all the press I’m reading about how it’s NOT influenced by that film (which was a box office disaster). Perhaps Vllaneuve is trying to improve on Lynch’s attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Perhaps Vllaneuve is trying to improve on Lynch’s attempt? Hadn't he better? As someone who hasn't read the book/s, my initial eyeroll is at yet another tortured reluctant protagonist who can barely open his mouth to mutter his lines. Enough with the dour navel-gazers. They can take my money now, though -- but I'll wait until next year if I can still see it in an actual theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 My main question: Why does it seem like so much of the film is influenced by David Lynch’s 1984 film? Like some shots are nearly identical. The Fremen look VERY similar. The shot where Paul runs from the worm to stable ground is right from the older film! Clearly some sort of homage is going on, despite all the press I’m reading about how it’s NOT influenced by that film (which was a box office disaster). The scenes that you are describing are taken directly from the novel. The Fremen, their stillsuits, the desert, the encounters with the sandworms, etc. are all fundamental parts of the novel. The majority of Dune occurs in the desert. The scene in which Paul and Jessica escape the sandworm is a fairly important part of the story, as is their capture by the Fremen, from whom they eventually earn trust and even obedience. Lynch's film was a flop, but it did portray some parts of the story fairly accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 My main question: Why does it seem like so much of the film is influenced by David Lynch’s 1984 film? Like some shots are nearly identical. The Fremen look VERY similar. The shot where Paul runs from the worm to stable ground is right from the older film! Clearly some sort of homage is going on, despite all the press I’m reading about how it’s NOT influenced by that film (which was a box office disaster). The scenes that you are describing are taken directly from the novel. The Fremen, their stillsuits, the desert, the encounters with the sandworms, etc. are all fundamental parts of the novel. The majority of Dune occurs in the desert. The scene in which Paul and Jessica escape the sandworm is a fairly important part of the story, as is their capture by the Fremen, from whom they eventually earn trust and even obedience. Lynch's film was a flop, but it did portray some parts of the story fairly accurately. I understand that, but the costuming and framing is very similar to the 84 film. Not the Jordorowski version - not the miniseries - but the Lynch film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The first Dune film was the only movie I have ever walked out on! I am interested to see if I can sit through this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Check this out: Almost ridiculous how similar some of these shots are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The first Dune film was the only movie I have ever walked out on! I am interested to see if I can sit through this one. I fell asleep. I can skip this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your_Lion Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Did anyone see the mini-series that Sci-Fi channel made in the early 2000's? I thought that was really good (if obviously made on a tight budget).Being a series, they could fit much more into it than you could in a movie. They also followed it up with Children of Dune Edited September 12, 2020 by Your_Lion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) The first Dune film was the only movie I have ever walked out on! I am interested to see if I can sit through this one. I fell asleep. I can skip this. Saw the first one on Showtime a couple of years ago and it's confusing AF and not in the good Lynchian way. Let's hope Warner doesn't do to this what Universal did to the 1984 one by taking creative control in the editing process. The end is the one good thing just for the iconic villain scenery chewing by a certain rock star. Edited September 13, 2020 by invisible airwave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) The first Dune film was the only movie I have ever walked out on! I am interested to see if I can sit through this one. I fell asleep. I can skip this. Saw the first one on Showtime a couple of years ago and it's confusing AF and not in the good Lynchian way. Let's hope Warner doesn't do to this what Universal did to the 1984 one by taking creative control in the editing process. The end is the one good thing just for the iconic villain scenery chewing by a certain rock star. In regards to David Lynch, other than The Elephant Man, I’m not interested in his stuff. His brand of surrealism doesn’t automatically make scenes intriguing to me. Edited September 13, 2020 by JohnnyBlaze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) This is going to be really good or really shit.... It has Aquaman, Thanos, Drax the Destroyer and Dr. Eric Selvig in it, so what could possibly go wrong? ;) None are as iconic as this character. Edited September 16, 2020 by invisible airwave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? Too many wussies who aren't willing to take a chance on untested scripts.They'd rather redo a movie which had mixed reviews, lost money, but has name recognition. Stupid yet not surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? We know why. Social and political agendas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Did anyone see the mini-series that Sci-Fi channel made in the early 2000's? I thought that was really good (if obviously made on a tight budget).Being a series, they could fit much more into it than you could in a movie. They also followed it up with Children of Dune I watched both when they aired, and I have the DVD’s. They’re not perfect, but they’re pretty good. I thought Alec Newman was excellent as Muad’Dib. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? We know why. Social and political agendas. Yeah I know, it was more of a frustrated rhetorical question...doesn't stop it being annoying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Did anyone see the mini-series that Sci-Fi channel made in the early 2000's? I thought that was really good (if obviously made on a tight budget).Being a series, they could fit much more into it than you could in a movie. They also followed it up with Children of Dune I watched both when they aired, and I have the DVD’s. They’re not perfect, but they’re pretty good. I thought Alec Newman was excellent as Muad’Dib. I haven't actually seen these, just dismissed them at the time....Think I will have to check them out now as I know your opinion will be one of the more discerning ones. Edited September 16, 2020 by Fridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? We know why. Social and political agendas. Yeah I know, it was more of a frustrated rhetorical question...doesn't stop it being annoying though. Asimov’s “Foundation” is now a series (on Apple TV?). I’m sure that it will suffer the same fate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? We know why. Social and political agendas. Yeah I know, it was more of a frustrated rhetorical question...doesn't stop it being annoying though. Asimov’s “Foundation” is now a series (on Apple TV?). I’m sure that it will suffer the same fate. Lord save us...shudder.....look what they did to I, Robot...ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Frank Herbert's Dune (1965): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and father of Chani. He is the Judge of The Change and the leader of the Fremen, who see him as a holy man. He seeks to transform Arrakis from a desert planet to a paradise with plenty of water and vegetation. Denis Villeneuve's Dune (2020): Liet-Kynes is the Imperial Planetologist and mother of Chani. She is portrayed by Sharon Duncan-Brewster. STRIKE ONE. FFS, why does Hollywood have to meddle when it's not neccessary? Too many wussies who aren't willing to take a chance on untested scripts.They'd rather redo a movie which had mixed reviews, lost money, but has name recognition.Stupid yet not surprising. It's been the worst I've seen lately. It's so bad that there's a GD Ben Hur remake from a few years ago lately. That's like remaking Godfather and Back To The Future ffs. That may be the most pointless remake to happen since that shot for shot Psycho from Gus Van Sant. Edited September 27, 2020 by invisible airwave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMontanaSKY Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I'm a bit underwhelmed by the previews for the new Dune movie. Cross fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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