fraroc Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I fully believe that the production of rock music and metal, the way the music itself was mixed in the studio, was at an absolute peak in the 80s. In the 70s, studio music sounded way to flat and tinny, which makes heavy songs sound not heavy at all...And from the 90s onwards, the "Loudness wars" happened, in which any form of proper mixing was thrown out the window in favor of making the album sound as heavy as possible a la Vapor Trails and Death Magnetic. In the 80s, the studio magic made the music sound so vibrant, almost atmospheric, it made every instrument shine on it's own. It's a perfect cross between heavy and light sounding music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day of Light Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 80s albums sound very overproduced to me personally. I'm happy they got a tiny bit louder and full-bodied but that doesn't excuse the plague of reverb and overly loud synths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 80s albums sound very overproduced to me personally. I'm happy they got a tiny bit louder and full-bodied but that doesn't excuse the plague of reverb and overly loud synths.Are you going to produce some albums soon so we can see your theories put into practice? Or are you just going to sit around and do nothing wasting years on this site with nothing better to do!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I don't worry too much about production, songs are the important thing, have they got good song writing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day of Light Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 80s albums sound very overproduced to me personally. I'm happy they got a tiny bit louder and full-bodied but that doesn't excuse the plague of reverb and overly loud synths.Are you going to produce some albums soon so we can see your theories put into practice? Or are you just going to sit around and do nothing wasting years on this site with nothing better to do!? big hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I don't worry too much about production, songs are the important thing, have they got good song writing. As a fellow metal fan you know that there is plenty of stuff in the genre that has bad production. Especially when you look at some of the earlier work of the bands who came up during the 80s. But I've found more often than not a good song can overcome bad production. Every decade has both good and bad when it comes to album production. Sure it would be nice if everything sounded like Moving Pictures or Screaming For Vengeance but that's not always possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I don't worry too much about production, songs are the important thing, have they got good song writing. As a fellow metal fan you know that there is plenty of stuff in the genre that has bad production. Especially when you look at some of the earlier work of the bands who came up during the 80s. But I've found more often than not a good song can overcome bad production. Every decade has both good and bad when it comes to album production. Sure it would be nice if everything sounded like Moving Pictures or Screaming For Vengeance but that's not always possible.Aye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 80s albums sound very overproduced to me personally. I'm happy they got a tiny bit louder and full-bodied but that doesn't excuse the plague of reverb and overly loud synths.Are you going to produce some albums soon so we can see your theories put into practice? Or are you just going to sit around and do nothing wasting years on this site with nothing better to do!? big hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Disagree. 1970s! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I disagree. While there was a boat load of great music and producers in those days, technology today has made here and now the golden age. Steely dan being the kings of production may disagree with me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I disagree. While there was a boat load of great music and producers in those days, technology today has made here and now the golden age. Steely dan being the kings of production may disagree with me!Trouble is a lot of producers and mixers cancel out technological advances by brick walling everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I disagree. While there was a boat load of great music and producers in those days, technology today has made here and now the golden age. Steely dan being the kings of production may disagree with me!Trouble is a lot of producers and mixers cancel out technological advances by brick walling everything. That may be but a dude with a good laptop has better quality control than studios in the 70's is what i have read. Not that this an area of expertise of mine. Maybe music production was best in the 70's and music video production was best in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I hated a lot of new wave music because it was so synth heavy and cheesy sounding. The thing I disliked the most about pop in that decade was the ubiquitous saxophone. I took a sound engineering course once. I registered for it so the school would let me use their creative suite to do my design homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Maybe in the beginning of the decade. but got more processed as the decade progressed. i still prefer 1970's Mick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I hated a lot of new wave music because it was so synth heavy and cheesy sounding. The thing I disliked the most about pop in that decade was the ubiquitous saxophone. I took a sound engineering course once. I registered for it so the school would let me use their creative suite to do my design homework.Can you play the guitar like Richie Faulkner though? So good that you really should replace him immediately!?? And get out there on the FIREPOWER tour?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 70s > 80s = 90s > 00's onwards > 60s > everything before 80s got really overproduced to my ears. There's a reason GnR cut through the bright and shiny hair metal and have gone down in history as better than those bands with production more akin to Toys In The Attic than Hysteria. For a time in the late 70s and early 80s, production was at a big peak for may bands, not least Rush with PeW through Signals. Some 70s production was maybe still too rough around the edges to sound so clear today as it used to, but the best produced albums of the 70s are generally the best produced albums of all time, and still sound fresh. Albums like Born To Run, A Night At The Opera, basically anything Pink Floyd did in the 70s, Permanent Waves, Selling England By The Pound, Boston, Fragile, Who's Next, Quadrophenia, and so many others from that decade... every album since has been held to the high standard of some of these records. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Simmons pads called...they want your post back, fraroc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) I agree Fra!! I love the 80's so much honestly my fav 80's band is these cuties: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: Edited April 3, 2018 by Permanent-Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 Simmons pads called...they want your post back, fraroc. Like there's anything wrong with being a Gen-Xer in a millennial body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 i just wanna say. there are a bunch of 80's albums that while overproduced and way to synth hot the music is so good i love the album anyway. Power windows i'm staring a hole right through you, lol Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) Music is produced according to what the listener is going to hear it on - for example, Phil Spector and his "wall of sound" was made for AM radio - in mono ... At the time, I'm sure it sounded great on a car radio that had nothing but two small dash speakers, but on today's systems, I don;t think most of his productions do the music he produced justice .. The Ronettes with today's technology would be incredible - not that they weren't, but Phil's mono techniques and the range in which he recorded things in just don;t do it justice .. I was listening to Megadeth's Dystopia today, and even though I am really into retro gear and recordings, I think it captures the energy of the band better than some of their early works .. With that said, I think what the 70s and 80s had over today's albums is the producer .. A guy like Bob Ezrin was an absolute genius in the studio and knew what instruments went where on the frequency spectrum .. He put calliope in KISS' Flaming Youth and it was ingenious - it filled out areas that electric guitar don't .... I think what we need is not different technology, but more producers who are knowledgeable in how to use it Edited April 3, 2018 by Lucas 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Simmons pads called...they want your post back, fraroc. Like there's anything wrong with being a Gen-Xer in a millennial body.People are too obsessed with that generational crap it's nothing but bullshit really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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