JohnnyBlaze Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. That's a tough one. Scholz for me. if Eddie spawned hair metal i'd love to slap him. like....REALLY BADLY., lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 70's for sure. David GilmourSteve HoweSteve HackettAlex LifesonJoe PerryMick TaylorEddie Van HalenMartin BarreEric ClaptonJimmy PageJeff BeckTony Iommi For the most part the 80's guitarist and solos were all about speed. No soul, all about showmanship and totally boring. :finbar: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 70's for sure. David GilmourSteve HoweSteve HackettAlex LifesonJoe PerryMick TaylorEddie Van HalenMartin BarreEric ClaptonJimmy PageJeff BeckTony Iommi For the most part the 80's guitarist and solos were all about speed. No soul, all about showmanship and totally boring. :finbar: now you say that it is true. and don't get me wrong it's impressive at first. then it's like......next, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Seems like the 80's were like rush. Keys at times over guitars. Still some killer playing in the 80's to say the least . But when you think of killer solos and overplayed tunes its the 70's. Freebird Stairway to heaven Hotel california Etc etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Also, if you want to make the case for the 80s, the Yngwei Malmsteems of the world are not your best argument. Some more persuasive examples include: Stevie Ray VaughnDave Mustaine/Chris Polandthe dudes in Maiden (though they can get boring too often)KK and Glen (though some of their best stuff was in the 70s)SlashRichie Sambora (look, he's hair metal but some of his solos are actually iconic, much as Bon Jovi are rightly looked a little down on, the guy could really play with feeling)Mark Knopfler (though he started in the 70s didn't he?) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. That's a tough one. Scholz for me. if Eddie spawned hair metal i'd love to slap him. like....REALLY BADLY., lol Mick Well, I suppose we can't just blame VH...but like...Eddie was the sole reason anyone and everyone started finger tapping all the time in the 80s, and that did lead to a good bit of the soullessness of so much hair metal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Van Halen, Rhoads and George Lynch are all 80s guitarists. All amazing. I’ll throw another guy in there who’s been mentioned a lot this week: Prince Rogers Nelson. The decades are very different. They both have elements to love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. That's a tough one. Scholz for me. if Eddie spawned hair metal i'd love to slap him. like....REALLY BADLY., lol Mick Well, I suppose we can't just blame VH...but like...Eddie was the sole reason anyone and everyone started finger tapping all the time in the 80s, and that did lead to a good bit of the soullessness of so much hair metal. This isn’t contrary to what you’re saying about finger tapping. It’s just an old 60s clip... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. That's a tough one. Scholz for me. if Eddie spawned hair metal i'd love to slap him. like....REALLY BADLY., lol Mick Well, I suppose we can't just blame VH...but like...Eddie was the sole reason anyone and everyone started finger tapping all the time in the 80s, and that did lead to a good bit of the soullessness of so much hair metal. This isn’t contrary to what you’re saying about finger tapping. It’s just an old 60s clip... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7M8L1rAUsI&sns=em Lol, yeah I've seen that. Also Steve Hackett likes to claim he invented it with Genesis on The Giant Hogweed. I don't think anyone invented it, EVH just used it in a way no one had thought of before and made it really popular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Also, if you want to make the case for the 80s, the Yngwei Malmsteems of the world are not your best argument. Some more persuasive examples include: Stevie Ray VaughnDave Mustaine/Chris Polandthe dudes in Maiden (though they can get boring too often)KK and Glen (though some of their best stuff was in the 70s)SlashRichie Sambora (look, he's hair metal but some of his solos are actually iconic, much as Bon Jovi are rightly looked a little down on, the guy could really play with feeling)Mark Knopfler (though he started in the 70s didn't he?) Yes Dire Straits first album was 77 or 78 i believe. And i'll admit.......i LOVE Sambora. he can play and he can sing his face off. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. That's a tough one. Scholz for me. if Eddie spawned hair metal i'd love to slap him. like....REALLY BADLY., lol Mick Well, I suppose we can't just blame VH...but like...Eddie was the sole reason anyone and everyone started finger tapping all the time in the 80s, and that did lead to a good bit of the soullessness of so much hair metal. At least two handed tapping, sweep picking, alternate picking and pinch harmonics were things that were developed in the 80s that were drastically different and impressive during that time period. In the 70s, the framework for guitar solos barely changed. And they became boring, pedestrian, and horrifically repetitive. Same old blues scales, same old tencniques, same old bullshit. In 1978, EVH changed all of that with Eruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 80s Malmsteen was so talented and yet so boring to me. And reading bluefox’s above post, yeah I’d take Tom Scholz over Malmsteen in a second. Scholz vs. EVH is a much more interesting question. Boston spawned AOR, VH spawned hair metal. That's a tough one. Scholz for me. if Eddie spawned hair metal i'd love to slap him. like....REALLY BADLY., lol Mick Well, I suppose we can't just blame VH...but like...Eddie was the sole reason anyone and everyone started finger tapping all the time in the 80s, and that did lead to a good bit of the soullessness of so much hair metal. At least two handed tapping, sweep picking, alternate picking and pinch harmonics were things that were developed in the 80s that were drastically different and impressive during that time period. In the 70s, the framework for guitar solos barely changed. And they became boring, pedestrian, and horrifically repetitive. Same old blues scales, same old tencniques, same old bullshit. In 1978, EVH changed all of that with Eruption. Unable to agree. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 At least two handed tapping, sweep picking, alternate picking and pinch harmonics were things that were developed in the 80s that were drastically different and impressive during that time period. Those are all technical terms that have nothing to do with the musicality of what's being played. To a guitarist, they are mere techniques, potentially impressive ones, and that's the most those words should ever mean to anyone. If you can do those things, I am impressed, but it doesn't at all mean I love you. James Taylor I doubt can do any of those things and I love his guitar work much more than that of Mick Mars, the guy in Def Leppard, or really any of the hair metal guitarists. Those soft melodies and soothing chords and accompanying harmonies vastly outweigh the work of someone who dedicates their skill and talent to learning impressive technique rather than playing great music. I'm gonna brag here and say people have been impressed by my acoustic playing and singing on some occasions and have complimented me. Now I'm gonna be honest and say I know maybe half a dozen chord structures, maybe a few dozen songs, maybe a dozen or so more bits of songs and riffs, can't cleanly play a guitar solo for my life, strum much harder than what seems to be the recommended standard, rarely play through a few songs without screwing something up in at least one of them, can't use any of the techniques you listed above, can barely play a couple scales cleanly, and only know one very pedestrian way to play a blues (just a power chord where the top note moves up a whole step). Obviously, I'm not a technically skilled guitarist in pretty much any sense, but also obviously (gonna brag again) I can impress and move people with my playing (and singing). I feel like that's much more important than knowing how to sweep. In the 70s, the framework for guitar solos barely changed. And they became boring, pedestrian, and horrifically repetitive. Same old blues scales, same old tencniques, same old bullshit. In 1978, EVH changed all of that with Eruption. EVH did change the way people approached guitar with Eruption, otherwise, to quote Luke Skywalker "every word you just said was wrong." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I would say they were definitely better in the 80s. In the 80s, you had players like EVH, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Vito Bratta etc. that all had a very unique sound and approach to the guitar. I'm sorry, but in the 70s, a lot of lead guitar sounded very pedestrian and similar to one another. It wasn't until EVH and then Randy Rhoads busted on the scene that guitar players got a boot up the ass that they needed. HAHAHA! MYLES RULES! FRAROC YOU! I like your threads. Don't understand "I Can't See For Myles and all of his hate. Great question!! Surprised this isn't a poll. Glad it isn't. I can't vote on this one. 80's for me but man the 70's were great too. Why would Eddie and Randy get put in the 80's because of more fame? Those cats started out and kicked ass in the 70's. Hello???? Randy kicked ass on the first two Quiet Riot albums. Priest, Maiden, RUSH all 70s. Sorry PAT! I'm changing my mind. The best solos are from the FUCKKING SEVENTIES! The greatest decade of MUSIC ON PLANET EARTH! FUKK MODERN MUSIC! FUCKK THE GRAMMYS! This thread proves to me that ROCK IS DEAD. Name the best guitar players and their solos in 2017-2018?????? ZERO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 ACE FREHLEY IN THE 70's > ACE FREHLEY IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 DAVE MENIKETTI IN THE 70's > DAVE MENIKETTI IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 ULI ROTH IN THE 70's > JABS IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 RORY GALLAGHER IN TASTE IN THE 70's > RORY IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 BLACKMORE IN THE 70's > BLACKMORE IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 IOMMI IN THE 70's > IOMMI IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 KK AND TIPTON IN THE 70's > KK AND TIPTON IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 MICHAEL SCHENKER IN THE 70's > MICHAEL SCHENKER IN THE 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 EVH 70's > EVH 80's!!!! DUH!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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