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#21 HalfwayToGone

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 10:43 AM

The way I read it was not that Alex's health was the reason they decided to stop touring--it was the reason Neil agreed to do it at the time they did it.  Alex wasn't sure how he'd recover from surgery and wasn't sure how his arthritis would feel if they waited, so he said he'd rather do it sooner than later.  That was all back in November.  Now Alex has mixed feelings about touring, Geddy is all in and Neil is "done."  Alex has stated more recently that he could see doing the odd show or few nights of shows here and there rather than a tour.  That seems to be a realistic scenario for all involved.  Neil's objections are with being away from family for months at a time, and the physical toll of playing 3 hours every other night for months at a time.  No need for any of that if it's just one show or 4-5 nights in one city.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:23 AM

View PostHalfwayToGone, on 11 September 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

The way I read it was not that Alex's health was the reason they decided to stop touring--it was the reason Neil agreed to do it at the time they did it.  Alex wasn't sure how he'd recover from surgery and wasn't sure how his arthritis would feel if they waited, so he said he'd rather do it sooner than later.  That was all back in November.  Now Alex has mixed feelings about touring, Geddy is all in and Neil is "done."  Alex has stated more recently that he could see doing the odd show or few nights of shows here and there rather than a tour.  That seems to be a realistic scenario for all involved.  Neil's objections are with being away from family for months at a time, and the physical toll of playing 3 hours every other night for months at a time.  No need for any of that if it's just one show or 4-5 nights in one city.

Neil doesn't need the band anymore. He's got his books. It wouldn't surprise me if we see him start dabbling in writing fiction before long.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:29 AM

View PostEagleMoon, on 11 September 2015 - 11:23 AM, said:

View PostHalfwayToGone, on 11 September 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

The way I read it was not that Alex's health was the reason they decided to stop touring--it was the reason Neil agreed to do it at the time they did it.  Alex wasn't sure how he'd recover from surgery and wasn't sure how his arthritis would feel if they waited, so he said he'd rather do it sooner than later.  That was all back in November.  Now Alex has mixed feelings about touring, Geddy is all in and Neil is "done."  Alex has stated more recently that he could see doing the odd show or few nights of shows here and there rather than a tour.  That seems to be a realistic scenario for all involved.  Neil's objections are with being away from family for months at a time, and the physical toll of playing 3 hours every other night for months at a time.  No need for any of that if it's just one show or 4-5 nights in one city.

Neil doesn't need the band anymore. He's got his books. It wouldn't surprise me if we see him start dabbling in writing fiction before long.
I agree that I think you will see fiction by Neil before too long.  I actually think he would do a good job at it, I enjoyed Drumbeats, which I believe he co authored

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 03:01 PM

Yeah reading this has colored my opinion....the soloing article made me think.."See...NP is excited about playing"....this article with the Jack Black reference made me think.....shit.

NP may feel he's done all with drumming he possibly can ( he hasn't but I get it)......

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 03:14 PM

(sentence from wrong thread)

View PostJBsDWdrums, on 11 September 2015 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yeah reading this has colored my opinion....the soloing article made me think.."See...NP is excited about playing"....this article with the Jack Black reference made me think.....shit.

NP may feel he's done all with drumming he possibly can ( he hasn't but I get it)......

I think he likes drumming but hates touring. He wanted to call it quits back in 1989, and just do studio albums, but had an epiphany that a band is only a band if they play live.

Edited by antiquark, 11 September 2015 - 04:29 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 03:14 PM

View PostSyrinx, on 11 September 2015 - 08:05 AM, said:

Hey Thunder Bay - I think I was having a senior moment!  Of course Gary McCracken.  My mistake.  I attended many of those Max Webster shows back in the day, so that shows my age.  Awesome drummer regardless - one of my favorites from one of my favorite bands.  And yes the way I read it he had the job, then decided no.  That was the first I had ever heard that story, even after countless accounts of how Neil joined the band.


I could be wrong about this, but I think it was Paul Kersey, Max Webster's first drummer, who was asked.  McCracken joined Max after the first album.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 03:19 PM

View Postytserush, on 09 September 2015 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 09 September 2015 - 05:10 PM, said:

I read this a couple of days ago. Pretty much what I expected.
Yup.

It is what it is -- and whatever.

sigh. I love that song.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 04:23 PM

View Postantiquark, on 11 September 2015 - 03:14 PM, said:

One of my kids had some amusing interpretations:

(A missing part of me that grows around me like a cage)

View PostJBsDWdrums, on 11 September 2015 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yeah reading this has colored my opinion....the soloing article made me think.."See...NP is excited about playing"....this article with the Jack Black reference made me think.....shit.

NP may feel he's done all with drumming he possibly can ( he hasn't but I get it)......

I think he likes drumming but hates touring. He wanted to call it quits back in 1989, and just do studio albums, but had an epiphany that a band is only a band if they play live.

I had heard rumors back around the end of the Roll The Bones tour that he was thinking of calling it a day on touring. One thing is for certain, Neil has disliked touring for a long time. Let's be honest, if concerns over money hadn't driven him back into the studio and out on the road again in 2002, Test for Echo might have been the last tour.

Look at what it's taking for even Geddy and Alex to tour; no more tour buses, but jetting it to each location. So while Geddy may still have the fire in his belly, even expensive accommodations have had to be made for him to tour.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 04:30 PM

It's no rumor.  It's in my Rush book.  Neil, actually - all of them, almost nixed touring all together back then.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:20 PM

I foresee a Geddy solo album in the future.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:46 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 11 September 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

I foresee a Geddy solo album in the future.
I hope he ends up collaborating with Alex.  Let them jam out a new record in the old progressive Rush style with a new hotshot drummer, but call it something else.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:55 PM

View PostTexMike, on 11 September 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 11 September 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

I foresee a Geddy solo album in the future.
I hope he ends up collaborating with Alex.  Let them jam out a new record in the old progressive Rush style with a new hotshot drummer, but call it something else.

I'd kind of like to see him playing with some other musicians just to hear what it would be like.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:21 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 11 September 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

I foresee a Geddy solo album in the future.

It would be interesting if Geddy would do another solo album and then tour behind it. I'd like to see what that would sound like. :)

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 07:56 AM

It would probably sounds like another Rush album.  That's what My Favourite Headache sounds like, which is fine with me!

(Yes, we Canadians put a "u" in favourite!  Auto correct - kiss my frost-bitten Canuck ass!)

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 09:48 AM

A great read... it was nice to learn some new stuff about the band. (I too didn't know about the invite to Max Webster's drummer). If this is the end of the band touring, I have come to terms with it. As sad as it is, and though though they are a bit conflicted from one moment to the next, this could be it. With that said, if I were a betting man, I would bet that they are not done playing as a live band. I think absence makes the heart grow fonder and that with enough time away from playing live and the grind of a long tour, the idea of limited runs in once city (a week at Radio City or at Massey Hall in Toronto), would be something that even Neil would find appealing.

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 11:18 AM

View Postblueschica, on 11 September 2015 - 07:21 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 11 September 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

I foresee a Geddy solo album in the future.

It would be interesting if Geddy would do another solo album and then tour behind it. I'd like to see what that would sound like. :)

As long as he does the mix or has someone other than Nick R. do it.

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 01:36 PM

View PostPhantom, on 12 September 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

A great read... it was nice to learn some new stuff about the band. (I too didn't know about the invite to Max Webster's drummer). If this is the end of the band touring, I have come to terms with it. As sad as it is, and though though they are a bit conflicted from one moment to the next, this could be it. With that said, if I were a betting man, I would bet that they are not done playing as a live band. I think absence makes the heart grow fonder and that with enough time away from playing live and the grind of a long tour, the idea of limited runs in once city (a week at Radio City or at Massey Hall in Toronto), would be something that even Neil would find appealing.

I think Alex and Geddy aren't done playing as a live band. I think Neil is very much done. He's been coaxed out on to the road more out of financial reasons than anything else, I think, particularly as recording and publishing royalties have collapsed over the last fifteen years. But between some pretty darned successful tours and being 63 years of age, Neil is fin.

At this point, I'll be honest, I'll take Rush any way I can get it, even if out of respect to Neil they don't call it Rush. There are drummers out there that are at Neil's level, and even beyond, and I'm some of them would love to play with 2/3s of Rush.

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 03:13 PM

Oh no doubt there are drummers beyond Neils level who would chomp at the bit to do it....

But......that's not Rush.....and I wouldn't be thrilled with the prospect either.....nah.

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 04:55 PM

View PostJBsDWdrums, on 12 September 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Oh no doubt there are drummers beyond Neils level who would chomp at the bit to do it....

But......that's not Rush.....and I wouldn't be thrilled with the prospect either.....nah.

Also they'd have a tough time finding a drummer who could write lyrics, too.

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 08:51 PM

Ged pretty much said it all in Beyond the Lighted Stage. There's no replacing anyone in this band.  If they were to go out on the road with another drummer, it wouldn't be as Rush. It would be in poor taste to do so, and not at all reflective of the friendship, respect and love that they have for one another.




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