Day of Light Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Meh13. The Astonishing12. Systematic Chaos Good11. When Dream And Day Unite10. Train of Thought09. Falling Into Infinity Great08. Black Clouds & Silver Linings05. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence05. Octavarium05. Dream Theater04. Awake03. Dramatic Turn of Events Astonishing02. Images & Words01. Metropolis Pt 2: Scenes From a Memory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Haken is somehow much more organic sounding than Dream Theater. They're often compared to them, but just as often there will be an individual song by them which will be a direct throwback to Gentle Giant or King Crimson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Haken is somehow much more organic sounding than Dream Theater. They're often compared to them, but just as often there will be an individual song by them which will be a direct throwback to Gentle Giant or King Crimson Speaking of throwback- I also like Astra quite a bit. Probably even more than Haken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Haken is somehow much more organic sounding than Dream Theater. They're often compared to them, but just as often there will be an individual song by them which will be a direct throwback to Gentle Giant or King Crimson This. You put it better than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Harsh, lol. but Haken sounds similar in spots but i think their more in line with classic prog then prog metal. so it's not a fair comparison. i hear like yes....Genesis.......Gentle giant all over Haken. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick That's because Haken is more satisfying, by miles. ;) :outtahere: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick That's because Haken is more satisfying, by miles. ;) :outtahere: Both are prog influenced. Moth have metallic aspects. If we can compare Yes and Rush, or (for goodness sake this gets ridiculous) Meatloaf and Nightwish, then Haken and Dream Theater are worthy to compare as well. One is brutally overrated but very accessible and the other are just hugely satisfying on every level. Seriously, I found DT were for a while addictive like sweets but after the sugar rush I craved something substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) yea that one makes sense cause you can here it if your not a stubborn poopy head :P Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) yea that one makes sense cause you can here it if your not a stubborn poopy head :P Mick I am not stubborn they really don't belong together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick That's because Haken is more satisfying, by miles. ;) :outtahere: I strongly Agree. shockingly, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) yea that one makes sense cause you can here it if your not a stubborn poopy head :P Mick I am not stubborn they really don't belong together. i'm kidding bud...........and uh......they do, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) yea that one makes sense cause you can here it if your not a stubborn poopy head :P Mick I am not stubborn they really don't belong together. i'm kidding bud...........and uh......they do, lol Mick Then Haken and DT should make more sense to you then as side by side comparisons. And Meatloaf suck. Hard. And I wouldn't deny the influence if I heard it, but you just put them together for the most generic reasons. Any band with operatic grandeur or orchestral elements somehow must have listened to nothing else but the inventor of the sound, Meatloaf. Er...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Talented hacks? How so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) yea that one makes sense cause you can here it if your not a stubborn poopy head :P Mick I am not stubborn they really don't belong together. i'm kidding bud...........and uh......they do, lol Mick Then Haken and DT should make more sense to you then as side by side comparisons. And Meatloaf suck. Hard. And I wouldn't deny the influence if I heard it, but you just put them together for the most generic reasons. Any band with operatic grandeur or orchestral elements somehow must have listened to nothing else but the inventor of the sound, Meatloaf. Er...no. touchy today. man. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Talented hacks? How so? I shared my views on this before and already abandoned one thread because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you people for re-awakening my love for Haken. Classic prog at it's finest. I wouldn't bunch them in with DT At all.......funny bands to compare. Mick Remember that next time you bring up Meatloaf in a Nightwish conversation. ;) yea that one makes sense cause you can here it if your not a stubborn poopy head :P Mick I am not stubborn they really don't belong together. i'm kidding bud...........and uh......they do, lol Mick Then Haken and DT should make more sense to you then as side by side comparisons. And Meatloaf suck. Hard. And I wouldn't deny the influence if I heard it, but you just put them together for the most generic reasons. Any band with operatic grandeur or orchestral elements somehow must have listened to nothing else but the inventor of the sound, Meatloaf. Er...no. touchy today. man. Mick *flips table* I am for some reason... No idea why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Talented hacks? How so? I shared my views on this before and already abandoned one thread because of it. So, I'm just supposed to go searching around for what you said before? Ok, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Talented hacks? How so? I shared my views on this before and already abandoned one thread because of it. So, I'm just supposed to go searching around for what you said before? Ok, then. I'd post my reasons. But for the sake of avoiding the trouble I had last time...I shall refrain from bringing it up again. Plus I am in such a mood I am turning already grey thoughts black so I might check out the forum today and go do something productive and come back smiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I am of the opinion that an album being polarizing is a great thing. What is damning is when an album is "meh". The fact that there is no discussion about it means that it's pretty much agreed that it's... alright, or mediocre, or kinda bad. But nobody's living for it. Nobody's replaying it every day. My thoughts exactly. I haven't heard The Astonishing at all, so I can't comment specifically. But I listened to Scenes from a Memory (actually bought it, up-front)...and they're talented and all, I can give them that. But it's definitely just...not. My. Thing. Funny thing, though- I really like Haken, for example. Halen are better. Mountain and the new album are actually, wait for it "Astonishing". I have yet to hear the rest of their work though. Dream Theater are talented hacks. I like them but the initial love is over. Talented hacks? How so? I shared my views on this before and already abandoned one thread because of it. So, I'm just supposed to go searching around for what you said before? Ok, then. I'd post my reasons. But for the sake of avoiding the trouble I had last time...I shall refrain from bringing it up again. Plus I am in such a mood I am turning already grey thoughts black so I might check out the forum today and go do something productive and come back smiling. Is the sun shining today, Segue? (I don't mean that in a sarcastically figurative sense- but literally). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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