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Album Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - heavy metal or something else?

  1. SBS is heavy metal. (20 votes [90.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 90.91%

  2. It's not metal. It's something else. (2 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

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#1 Texas King

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:24 PM

I listened to this album today and I concluded that SBS is too unique, sophisticated and musically diverse album to be considered plain heavy metal. It's "something else"for me. Only a title track is heavy metal to my ears.  

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:34 PM

Texas King doesn't like heavy metal does he? He's seems to want to make it disappear from his music collection by relabeling albums. He'll be telling us that Judas Priest and Megadeth are examples of Northern Soul next.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM

SBS is highly sophisticated metal of the heaviest quality. The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 02:05 PM

Yes, it f***in metal. What kind of question is that? If Tony Iommi plays it, then it's metal.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:34 PM

It is metal.

And metal is far from having any sort of limit, so I am confused by his attitude that something is too good to be metal, or whatever the hell he means.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:46 PM

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 26 November 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yes, it f***in metal. What kind of question is that? If Tony Iommi plays it, then it's metal.

If Sabbath have made psychedelic rock or prog rock or jazz-rock or classical album people would call it METAL.
Why everything that BS put out has to be METAL?

There is no album in metal world that sounds a bit similar to SBS. That's a fact.  
SBS can't be put in one single genre - heavy metal. That album has handclaps, synths, mellotron, organ, flutes and bagpipes. Think about it and forget about Iommi's heavy riffs for a while. And his riffs are much lighter compared to previous Sabbath albums.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:49 PM

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 26 November 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yes, it f***in metal. What kind of question is that? If Tony Iommi plays it, then it's metal.

If Sabbath have made psychedelic rock or prog rock or jazz-rock or classical album people would call it METAL.
Why everything that BS put out has to be METAL?

There is no album in metal world that sounds a bit similar to SBS. That's a fact.  
SBS can't be put in one single genre - heavy metal. That album has handclaps, synths, mellotron, organ, flutes and bagpipes. Think about it and forget about Iommi's heavy riffs for a while. And his riffs are much lighter compared to previous Sabbath albums.
If you want to claim you don't like metal but at the same time you like metal albums you need to just accept it and go on with your day. Don't try and tell us that metal albums are not metal though, that's just stupid. You seem to be too concerned with labels and image by the look of it. If you like an album you like an album don't fret about it being metal.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:58 PM

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?
Why are you obsessed with this. Is it your mission to deny all metal? :16ton:

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:59 PM

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?

Cygnus X-1 isn't metal?...are you on crack or something?

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:00 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 26 November 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 26 November 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yes, it f***in metal. What kind of question is that? If Tony Iommi plays it, then it's metal.

If Sabbath have made psychedelic rock or prog rock or jazz-rock or classical album people would call it METAL.
Why everything that BS put out has to be METAL?

There is no album in metal world that sounds a bit similar to SBS. That's a fact.  
SBS can't be put in one single genre - heavy metal. That album has handclaps, synths, mellotron, organ, flutes and bagpipes. Think about it and forget about Iommi's heavy riffs for a while. And his riffs are much lighter compared to previous Sabbath albums.
If you want to claim you don't like metal but at the same time you like metal albums you need to just accept it and go on with your day. Don't try and tell us that metal albums are not metal though, that's just stupid. You seem to be too concerned with labels and image by the look of it. If you like an album you like an album don't fret about it being metal.

I never said that I dislike metal, I like a lot of metal albums. I just said that everything BS make DOESN'T HAVE TO be metal! SBS is an album that musically doesn't belong to heavy metal category.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 26 November 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 26 November 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yes, it f***in metal. What kind of question is that? If Tony Iommi plays it, then it's metal.

If Sabbath have made psychedelic rock or prog rock or jazz-rock or classical album people would call it METAL.
Why everything that BS put out has to be METAL?

There is no album in metal world that sounds a bit similar to SBS. That's a fact.  
SBS can't be put in one single genre - heavy metal. That album has handclaps, synths, mellotron, organ, flutes and bagpipes. Think about it and forget about Iommi's heavy riffs for a while. And his riffs are much lighter compared to previous Sabbath albums.
If you want to claim you don't like metal but at the same time you like metal albums you need to just accept it and go on with your day. Don't try and tell us that metal albums are not metal though, that's just stupid. You seem to be too concerned with labels and image by the look of it. If you like an album you like an album don't fret about it being metal.

I never said that I dislike metal, I like a lot of metal albums. I just said that everything BS make DOESN'T HAVE TO be metal! SBS is an album that musically doesn't belong to heavy metal category.
Oh yes it does, it's metal and you need to realise it and you will. :yes:

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

View PostFridge, on 26 November 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?

Cygnus X-1 isn't metal?...are you on crack or something?
All RUSH stuff is metal! :haz:

#14 Entre_Perpetuo

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:26 PM

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?

Cygnus X-1, my favorite Rush song, is practically metal. The closing sequence is most certainly metal by a seventies standard. I won't have the argument about whether or not Rush are metal again, Lucas and I have agreed that sometimes is a perfectly acceptable answer to that question. I will say that, in my opinion, the best definition for metal was said by Ronnie James Dio himself in an interview. "Metal is an attitude." If Zep play just as heavy as Sabbath sometimes, this is why I don't generally consider Zep metal but Sabbath always are. Zep's attitude was that of pure classic rock and roll, with an overdose of classic blues. Sabbath's attitude was one of pure, righteous, powerful heavy metal. Thus, Fluff is labeled metal on my iPod and Dazed And Confused is labeled rock.

However the whole discussion is pretty pointless. The obvious fact is that SBS is metal through and through, and whether or not it is shouldn't have anything to do with how much you like it or what you think of its quality.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:27 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 26 November 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 26 November 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?

Cygnus X-1 isn't metal?...are you on crack or something?
All RUSH stuff is metal! :haz:

Tai Shan begs to differ :P

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:33 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 26 November 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 26 November 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 26 November 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

The riff in A National Acrobat should be proof enough.

Then explain me why Rush's "Cygnus X-1 part I" is not a heavy metal song and "A National Acrobat" is?

Cygnus X-1 isn't metal?...are you on crack or something?
All RUSH stuff is metal! :haz:

Tai Shan begs to differ :P
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Posted 26 November 2017 - 05:03 PM

It is a metal album.  But it’s a very intricate piece of work.  It’s amazing.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 05:34 PM

Whatever else one calls it, I call it their best album.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 07:39 PM

Voted brit synth pop


Lol

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 07:52 PM

View Postdjflex, on 26 November 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Voted brit synth pop


Lol
Even Brit synth pop itself is really metal in disguise! They just toned things down a bit... :hail:




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