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Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:45 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 28 August 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

I can see Earl getting into a fist fight with Wilson over this. Two middle-aged men fighting like mad dogs in the street!

There is a lot of stupidity out there.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:52 PM

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View Posttreeduck, on 28 August 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

I can see Earl getting into a fist fight with Wilson over this. Two middle-aged men fighting like mad dogs in the street!

There is a lot of stupidity out there.
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Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:53 PM

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

I'm just saying that just because PT as a band is no more, doesn't mean the well has dried up for the creativity and music. As I said, Steven Wilson has a relatively successful solo career, he released a solo album literally ten days ago and after listening to a little bit of it, the well definitely hasn't dried up AT ALL.

Edited by fraroc, 28 August 2017 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 09:00 PM

View Postfraroc, on 28 August 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

I'm just saying that just because PT as a band is no more, doesn't mean the well has dried up for the creativity and music. As I said, Steven Wilson has a relatively successful solo career, he released a solo album literally ten days ago and after listening to a little bit of it, the well definitely hasn't dried up AT ALL.
Nowhere in my original post did I ever imply SW's well has dried up for musical creativity. If you knew your facts, he's made music as No-Man, Blackfield, IEM, Storm Corrosion, and Bass Communion which has a new 10" coming out next month.

And as for his new solo album, thanks for stating the obvious, Sherlock. I've already posted on the To The Bone thread many times already and I even listened to the album again today...and I think it's great even if it isn't my favorite thing he's done. I like to know what your opinion is on it...if you even listened to it yet. Regardless, my opinion still stands.

Edited by PolarizeMe, 28 August 2017 - 09:00 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 09:51 PM

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 28 August 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

I'm just saying that just because PT as a band is no more, doesn't mean the well has dried up for the creativity and music. As I said, Steven Wilson has a relatively successful solo career, he released a solo album literally ten days ago and after listening to a little bit of it, the well definitely hasn't dried up AT ALL.
Nowhere in my original post did I ever imply SW's well has dried up for musical creativity. If you knew your facts, he's made music as No-Man, Blackfield, IEM, Storm Corrosion, and Bass Communion which has a new 10" coming out next month.

And as for his new solo album, thanks for stating the obvious, Sherlock. I've already posted on the To The Bone thread many times already and I even listened to the album again today...and I think it's great even if it isn't my favorite thing he's done. I like to know what your opinion is on it...if you even listened to it yet. Regardless, my opinion still stands.

Oh will you EVER forgive me for not being as familiar with Steven Wilson as you? Listen dude, we all have our own obscure thing that we're into. Do you know who Tim Donahue is? Maybe you do, maybe you don't. Not a lot of people do, but I happen to be a huge fan of his work.  

Anyway, I do find the opening track to be a very beautiful song and I'm actually listening to more of it right now as I type this.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 10:42 PM

View Postfraroc, on 28 August 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 28 August 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

I'm just saying that just because PT as a band is no more, doesn't mean the well has dried up for the creativity and music. As I said, Steven Wilson has a relatively successful solo career, he released a solo album literally ten days ago and after listening to a little bit of it, the well definitely hasn't dried up AT ALL.
Nowhere in my original post did I ever imply SW's well has dried up for musical creativity. If you knew your facts, he's made music as No-Man, Blackfield, IEM, Storm Corrosion, and Bass Communion which has a new 10" coming out next month.

And as for his new solo album, thanks for stating the obvious, Sherlock. I've already posted on the To The Bone thread many times already and I even listened to the album again today...and I think it's great even if it isn't my favorite thing he's done. I like to know what your opinion is on it...if you even listened to it yet. Regardless, my opinion still stands.

Oh will you EVER forgive me for not being as familiar with Steven Wilson as you? Listen dude, we all have our own obscure thing that we're into. Do you know who Tim Donahue is? Maybe you do, maybe you don't. Not a lot of people do, but I happen to be a huge fan of his work.  

Anyway, I do find the opening track to be a very beautiful song and I'm actually listening to more of it right now as I type this.
Sure, I would but that's exactly why I think you don't have a right to weigh in on "equating" PT with SW's solo work and PT not being a big of a loss. For the majority, it's not much of a loss, but there is a growing amount of people who have opened about about missing PT and thus consider the dissolution of the band leaving somewhat of a void for themselves. At least I don't weigh in on something I don't know well using calculated rhetoric which is why I don't bother weighing on what you listen to cause it doesn't apply to me. This however does cause I do listen to SW and have for the past 7 years.  

Sure, you bring up only one good point in having individual taste in music, but these days, I tend to keep that stuff to myself and like minded listeners only.

Edited by PolarizeMe, 28 August 2017 - 10:49 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 10:47 PM

I personally think this is a good thing. Perhaps this opens the door for collaborations between the band members on different projects. It would be great to see Gavin and Steven together again. I believe Richard and Colin have also done a collaboration together, right? Might be something to explore.

Maybe we'll be in for some surprise releases from the PT vault. Would be great for Steven to go through whatever live recordings he has and publish them. Coma Divine got expanded way back in 2004, but not by much. There's plenty of stuff to include on a possible new edition of that album. I believe they recorded Dark Matter and a lot of material from the Signify album along with the original phases of Voyage 34. Would be interesting to hear, as I've never been able to find any Porcupine Tree bootlegs.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 10:59 PM

View PostOracle, on 28 August 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

I personally think this is a good thing. Perhaps this opens the door for collaborations between the band members on different projects. It would be great to see Gavin and Steven together again. I believe Richard and Colin have also done a collaboration together, right? Might be something to explore.

Maybe we'll be in for some surprise releases from the PT vault. Would be great for Steven to go through whatever live recordings he has and publish them. Coma Divine got expanded way back in 2004, but not by much. There's plenty of stuff to include on a possible new edition of that album. I believe they recorded Dark Matter and a lot of material from the Signify album along with the original phases of Voyage 34. Would be interesting to hear, as I've never been able to find any Porcupine Tree bootlegs.
Gavin did guest on Storm Corrosion and he recommended Craig to Steven so they're obviously on good terms. Who knows, maybe he'll appear on a future solo album again. He's on Insurgentes

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:33 AM

View PostPresto-digitation, on 28 August 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

And before that Porcupine Tree began as a Wilson solo project.  

Either way I don't give a f**k.  I love PT, but all things must pass.  There may not be a PT today because of Steven, but there never would have been a PT AT ALL without him either.  Who better to kill it than the man who gave it life to begin with...?

So goes life.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:38 AM

View PostPresto-digitation, on 28 August 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 28 August 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

I can see Earl getting into a fist fight with Wilson over this. Two middle-aged men fighting like mad dogs in the street!

There is a lot of stupidity out there.

No.  I'm not stupid.  Perhaps I don't get your jest or joust.

Perhaps I will have a "Stupid Dream" tonight.  I won't type about it.

Coincidentally I just got my Japanese pressing of the new Steven Wilson solo album.  I bought my cd early so I have a cool rare pin badge that came with the cd.

I think half the new record is amazing and prog.  The other half is shit pop techno.  Didn't I just write this?

I would never waste my time trying to fight with Steven Wilson in the street.

I would rather fight for love.

But I lost that three years ago.

Thank God I have my girls.


I am blessed and cursed.

Love,

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The death of Rush hurts so much more.

Thank God I was at the Forum to see their last show.  EVER!


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:40 AM

View Posttreeduck, on 28 August 2017 - 08:52 PM, said:

View PostPresto-digitation, on 28 August 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 28 August 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

I can see Earl getting into a fist fight with Wilson over this. Two middle-aged men fighting like mad dogs in the street!

There is a lot of stupidity out there.
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:34 AM

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 28 August 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

I'm just saying that just because PT as a band is no more, doesn't mean the well has dried up for the creativity and music. As I said, Steven Wilson has a relatively successful solo career, he released a solo album literally ten days ago and after listening to a little bit of it, the well definitely hasn't dried up AT ALL.
Nowhere in my original post did I ever imply SW's well has dried up for musical creativity. If you knew your facts, he's made music as No-Man, Blackfield, IEM, Storm Corrosion, and Bass Communion which has a new 10" coming out next month.

And as for his new solo album, thanks for stating the obvious, Sherlock. I've already posted on the To The Bone thread many times already and I even listened to the album again today...and I think it's great even if it isn't my favorite thing he's done. I like to know what your opinion is on it...if you even listened to it yet. Regardless, my opinion still stands.

Being a bit c u n t y about this whole thing, no?

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:35 AM

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 29 August 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

View PostPresto-digitation, on 28 August 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

And before that Porcupine Tree began as a Wilson solo project.  

Either way I don't give a f**k.  I love PT, but all things must pass.  There may not be a PT today because of Steven, but there never would have been a PT AT ALL without him either.  Who better to kill it than the man who gave it life to begin with...?

So goes life.

"All Things Must Pass"

George Harrison

...like a kidney stone.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:23 AM

View PostPresto-digitation, on 29 August 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 28 August 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

I'm just saying that just because PT as a band is no more, doesn't mean the well has dried up for the creativity and music. As I said, Steven Wilson has a relatively successful solo career, he released a solo album literally ten days ago and after listening to a little bit of it, the well definitely hasn't dried up AT ALL.
Nowhere in my original post did I ever imply SW's well has dried up for musical creativity. If you knew your facts, he's made music as No-Man, Blackfield, IEM, Storm Corrosion, and Bass Communion which has a new 10" coming out next month.

And as for his new solo album, thanks for stating the obvious, Sherlock. I've already posted on the To The Bone thread many times already and I even listened to the album again today...and I think it's great even if it isn't my favorite thing he's done. I like to know what your opinion is on it...if you even listened to it yet. Regardless, my opinion still stands.

Being a bit c u n t y about this whole thing, no?
Yeah I am, but I'm going up against the the guy who lamented the death of rock on this forum three times and then asked how to save it.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:11 PM

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 29 August 2017 - 03:38 AM, said:



I think half the new record is amazing and prog.  The other half is shit pop techno.  


Um, what?  Please unpack this with specifics and tell me which songs are "pop techno."

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:34 PM

I just cant get in to the solo stuff

Sure am glad I got to see them once

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:08 AM

View PostPresto-digitation, on 29 August 2017 - 05:35 AM, said:

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 29 August 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

View PostPresto-digitation, on 28 August 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostPolarizeMe, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 27 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Considering that most people equate porcupine tree with Steven Wilson and he has a very consistent solo career, it probably isn't that big of a loss.
In the words of Robert Fripp, unless you've seen or heard Porcupine Tree, you don't have the right to form an opinion. Your track record proves it and I honestly doubt your sincerity on your opinion.

Porcupine Tree was a band with 4 distinct personalities. SW's solo career is basically his vision and his vision alone. Your opinion does not equate AT ALL.

And before that Porcupine Tree began as a Wilson solo project.  

Either way I don't give a f**k.  I love PT, but all things must pass.  There may not be a PT today because of Steven, but there never would have been a PT AT ALL without him either.  Who better to kill it than the man who gave it life to begin with...?

So goes life.

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...like a kidney stone.

Hahaha!  

"Like A Rolling Stone"  

Love,

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:10 AM

View PostThe K Man, on 29 August 2017 - 10:11 PM, said:

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 29 August 2017 - 03:38 AM, said:



I think half the new record is amazing and prog.  The other half is shit pop techno.  


Um, what?  Please unpack this with specifics and tell me which songs are "pop techno."

Shit dude, I've been doing my audio homework over the last few days!

I've heard it three times now.  I can't lay down specifics right now.

There are some song that are just sooooo pop techno.

I am sure you are an intellectual.  Most on here are.  Except for loud mouth idiot me!!!

I know nothing about music.

This album is like "Half The World" by RUSH.  Half sucks.  Half is brilliant.

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:27 AM

Steven wrote upwards of 90% of all PT's music - by In Absentia, he would come in with complete demos and the others would put their own personality into playing what was on the demo.  PT was most certainly Steven's vision filtered through the varied tastes and skills of the others.  IMHO, things had dropped off significantly with The Incident - the vortex of album/tour cycle, perhaps, but I sense Steven wasn't all that enthused with the semi-collaborative work from disc 2 of that album (some good stuff, but clearly Steven's vision was Disc 1) and definitely not with the tour.  With Grace for Drowning, I really missed PT(liked it, but not as much as PT.)  Now, I love SW solo work and prefer it in certain ways - at least to the point of being ok with no future PT.

This does not come as a surprise to me, as Steven has said similar things in recent years and to quote a discussion I had with John Wesley about possible PT work a few years back: "don't hold your breath."

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:34 AM

View PostAncient Ways, on 27 August 2017 - 10:17 PM, said:

Didn't learn about the band until FoaBP so I was late to the party.  I did see them at HoB Orlando and stood about 10' away from the stage.  Incredible show.

I was there too!  Probably not too far from you.  Incredible show indeed (cheating the polygraph melted my brain!)  Next night, I was one of very few people at the in-store show at Park Ave CD shop that was released as "We lost the skyline" (I can hear myself cheering on that disc!  lol.)  Met the whole band.  That show was a bit of a life-changer.

(I also saw them at ORL HOB and in Tampa (front row; Thanks T2) and in New York on The Incident Tour.)

Then Orl HOB on the Grace For Drowning tour (with Marco on drums and Wes filling in on guitar) - a magical show and tremendous production.  More recent shows in Florida (Raven, HCE) have been in crappy venues (stellar shows none-the-less!).  Hope he gets back to HOB.

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