What is the SINGLE most overrated Rush song?

[savagegrace26]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

 

What? Middletown Dreams a bad song too? Like Territories? What? Ok. So you just completely dislike Power Windows then. I now know to ignore your opinions from now on...

 

Why does it matter to you so much if the "public" likes something or not? Or if they even know about it.

Edited October 18, 2014 by savagegrace26

[len(songs)]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

 

What? Middletown Dreams a bad song too? Like Territories? What? Ok. So you just completely dislike Power Windows then. I now know to ignore your opinions from now on...

 

Why does it matter to you so much if the "public" likes something or not? Or if they even know about it.

Agreed. If you asked the average "casual" Rush fan what they thought of Caress Of Steel, they would probably either give you a funny look or laugh out loud.

Edited October 19, 2014 by len(songs)

[The K Man]

This is easy:

 

Far Cry

 

It's a pretty good song, but many treat it like a modern day Rush classic, when, IMO, it's just pretty good. And certainly not deserving of the great spots it has gotten in the band's set lists over the last several tours.

[lifeson90]

Far cry? Nah mate. Brilliant track dunno where you get that from :)

 

Tom Sawyer for me. Another brilliant track obviously but could never understand why it became such a signature tune. Spirit of Radio deserved that aplomb for me

[Empty Mindless Spectre]

Subdivisions and Time Stand Still are tied at the top of my list. It always baffles me in threads like this that Tom Sawyer gets brutalized yet Subdivisions remains unscathed. Subdivisions has received equal fanfare and airplay (or very close to it), and it has been played on every tour since its release, but is it honestly that great of a song??? IMO, Tom Sawyer is a considerably better song. And I agree that both have been overplayed and over recognized, but as I see it, Tom Sawyer is:

 

A.- a much better song than Subdivisions

B - criticized eons more than Subdivisions

 

I just don't get it.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Empty Mindless Spectre

[len(songs)]

Subdivisions and Time Stand Still are tied at the top of my list. It always baffles me in threads like this that Tom Sawyer gets brutalized yet Subdivisions remains unscathed. Subdivisions has received equal fanfare and airplay (or very close to it), and it has been played on every tour since its release, but is it honestly that great of a song??? IMO, Tom Sawyer is a considerably better song. And I agree that both have been overplayed and over recognized, but as I see it, Tom Sawyer is:

 

A.- a much better song than Subdivisions

B - criticized eons more than Subdivisions

 

I just don't get it.

Subdivisions and Tom Sawyer both deserve all the praise they get.

[Segue Myles]

Subdivisions and Time Stand Still are tied at the top of my list. It always baffles me in threads like this that Tom Sawyer gets brutalized yet Subdivisions remains unscathed. Subdivisions has received equal fanfare and airplay (or very close to it), and it has been played on every tour since its release, but is it honestly that great of a song??? IMO, Tom Sawyer is a considerably better song. And I agree that both have been overplayed and over recognized, but as I see it, Tom Sawyer is:

 

A.- a much better song than Subdivisions

B - criticized eons more than Subdivisions

 

I just don't get it.

 

I dunno if you noticed this, but I too picked Subdivisions. In fact, I find it one of the less impressive songs on Signals.

 

As for Time Stand Still, I disagree. One of the bands best ever songs. Like, top ten worthy.

[goose]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

Middletown is a good choice. An admitted over-rater of this song, I love it to death, But yu make a good point that the casual fan wouldn't give it a second thought. My choice for this category is Between the Wheels, another track held up by RUSH fans as majestic.

[Segue Myles]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

Middletown is a good choice. An admitted over-rater of this song, I love it to death, But yu make a good point that the casual fan wouldn't give it a second thought. My choice for this category is Between the Wheels, another track held up by RUSH fans as majestic.

 

Between The Wheels is a great song, but I would say its my least favourite song on GUP, aside from maybe Red Lenses.

[len(songs)]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

Middletown is a good choice. An admitted over-rater of this song, I love it to death, But yu make a good point that the casual fan wouldn't give it a second thought. My choice for this category is Between the Wheels, another track held up by RUSH fans as majestic.

 

Between The Wheels is a great song, but I would say its my least favourite song on GUP, aside from maybe Red Lenses.

:o It's my favorite from that album. The synths were irritating at first but they create a very effective atmosphere for the song that works very well. And that solo! :haz:

[pfrushfan0122]

Please don't pull your pitch forks and torches out on me.... but:

 

Jacob's Ladder :outtahere:

 

 

Just in recent history with everyone being so obssessed with them playing it live, I feel it's a great song, but there are other that should be highly regarded to be played live and that would come off to non-Rush fans better than this one.. I don't get the hype.

[Segue Myles]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

Middletown is a good choice. An admitted over-rater of this song, I love it to death, But yu make a good point that the casual fan wouldn't give it a second thought. My choice for this category is Between the Wheels, another track held up by RUSH fans as majestic.

 

Between The Wheels is a great song, but I would say its my least favourite song on GUP, aside from maybe Red Lenses.

:o It's my favorite from that album. The synths were irritating at first but they create a very effective atmosphere for the song that works very well. And that solo! :haz:

 

From AFTK through to HYF, I can safely say that there is not a single Rush song I do not love. Sure, I have my favourites from those albums, but my least favourite songs are absolute solid gold nuggets of awesome.

 

When I say I think Subdivisions is overrated, bear in mind the lyrics have never spoken to me the way I know they have for other fans. When I say I find Permanent Waves overrated, bear in mind I am aware I am a fool because I have simply overplayed it for the moment.

 

But when songs like Middletown Dreams or Available Light get picked as overrated, all I can ask is, by whom? How many people outside of the Rush fanbase have even hears of Power Windows or Presto?

 

However, most classic rock fans, or rock fans in general have at least heard Closer To The Heart, Spirit Of Radio, Tom Sawyer or Subdivisions. Heck, even the mainstream rock press note the historical importance and musical value of 2112 and Moving Pictures.

 

And of all the most recognisable songs in the Rush catalogue, the one that always leaves me cold is Subdivisions. For me, as great as the song is, on the album it comes from I think New World Man, Losing It, Analog Kid and Countdown completely overshadow it. As a commercial rock song, Closer To The Heart, Tom Sawyer, Limelight and Spirit Of Radio are far better.

 

These songs are all widely recognised Rush hits. Sure, we fans may perhaps harp on a little about our personal, more obscure favourites (at least "obscure" from the perspective of the casual Rush or rock music fan), but any raving about songs like Middletown Dreams, Available Light or even The Pass is surely not great enough to constitute as overrating?

 

Seriously, Tom Sawyer is pretty much the most played Rush song of all time. Most classic rock compilations, if they decide to choose anything by Rush, tend to go for Spirit Of Radio. Casual fans of Rush at least know of Subdivisions or Limelight. And who exactly has been able to avoid Closer To The Heart? These songs are the ones that have the potential to be overrated, not only because they are the most played Rush songs, but also because in many ways they are not even the most representitive songs off their respective albums.

 

Seriously guys, songs like Middletown Dreams or Available Light are almost certainly only minor fan favourites, never mind being widely known enough to ne classed as overrated.

[jamie]

I'd say Subdivisions or 2112.

[savagegrace26]

Time Stand Still from the OP works for me. There are 7 better and more interesting songs on that album. Underrated ones in my view....

 

Well when I say more "interesting" I don't necessarily mean better.

 

Every song on HYF is more interesting compositionally and structurally than TSS which is a pretty straightforward pop rock song, although very well done.

 

And yes, when I say "every" I'm including Tai Shan and High Water.

[savagegrace26]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

 

Middletown is "unknown" to the general public because it's rarely been played live and was never released to the radio or included on any greatest hits compilations.

 

Because it's "unknown" doesn't prove it's a bad song. Are you trying to use your perceptions of what the "general public" likes or dislikes (or in this case not know of at all) to support your opinion of whether something is good or bad? There is no scientific way to support or define what is a good or bad song. It is purely your opinion, no more no less.

 

And the "general public" likes a lot of crap as well like Nickelback and Justin Bieber so it's all meanigless. Agreement by popularity or by an imaginary consensus regarding music is all bullshit.

 

The average person does not have good taste in music anyway. They like the McDonald's of music.

 

Real music appreciation is only for special people.

[Blue Barchetta]

People have always said I was special. So THAT'S what they meant!

[Blue Barchetta]

Dog Years for me. Even if rated a 1 out of 10.

[Blue Barchetta]

Also, The Pass. Great message and music, but the use of "dreamers learn to look at the cars" just to have a rhyme for "stars" is contrived. Was Neil channeling Steve Miller?

[len(songs)]

Also, The Pass. Great message and music, but the use of "dreamers learn to look at the cars" just to have a rhyme for "stars" is contrived. Was Neil channeling Steve Miller?

Hmm, that's the one part of the song I don't think worked out well. But I still don't say it's overrated.

[savagegrace26]

who the hell is out there overrating nobody's hero and middletown dreams??

 

It depends. Nobody's Hero seems generally liked by the public, though it's not a hit by any stretch. Middletown is adored by the hardcore here, though it remains unknown to a wider audience, largely because it's a bad song.

Middletown is a good choice. An admitted over-rater of this song, I love it to death, But yu make a good point that the casual fan wouldn't give it a second thought. My choice for this category is Between the Wheels, another track held up by RUSH fans as majestic.

 

Between The Wheels is a great song, but I would say its my least favourite song on GUP, aside from maybe Red Lenses.

:o It's my favorite from that album. The synths were irritating at first but they create a very effective atmosphere for the song that works very well. And that solo! :haz:

 

From AFTK through to HYF, I can safely say that there is not a single Rush song I do not love. Sure, I have my favourites from those albums, but my least favourite songs are absolute solid gold nuggets of awesome.

 

When I say I think Subdivisions is overrated, bear in mind the lyrics have never spoken to me the way I know they have for other fans. When I say I find Permanent Waves overrated, bear in mind I am aware I am a fool because I have simply overplayed it for the moment.

 

But when songs like Middletown Dreams or Available Light get picked as overrated, all I can ask is, by whom? How many people outside of the Rush fanbase have even hears of Power Windows or Presto?

 

However, most classic rock fans, or rock fans in general have at least heard Closer To The Heart, Spirit Of Radio, Tom Sawyer or Subdivisions. Heck, even the mainstream rock press note the historical importance and musical value of 2112 and Moving Pictures.

 

And of all the most recognisable songs in the Rush catalogue, the one that always leaves me cold is Subdivisions. For me, as great as the song is, on the album it comes from I think New World Man, Losing It, Analog Kid and Countdown completely overshadow it. As a commercial rock song, Closer To The Heart, Tom Sawyer, Limelight and Spirit Of Radio are far better.

 

These songs are all widely recognised Rush hits. Sure, we fans may perhaps harp on a little about our personal, more obscure favourites (at least "obscure" from the perspective of the casual Rush or rock music fan), but any raving about songs like Middletown Dreams, Available Light or even The Pass is surely not great enough to constitute as overrating?

 

Seriously, Tom Sawyer is pretty much the most played Rush song of all time. Most classic rock compilations, if they decide to choose anything by Rush, tend to go for Spirit Of Radio. Casual fans of Rush at least know of Subdivisions or Limelight. And who exactly has been able to avoid Closer To The Heart? These songs are the ones that have the potential to be overrated, not only because they are the most played Rush songs, but also because in many ways they are not even the most representitive songs off their respective albums.

 

Seriously guys, songs like Middletown Dreams or Available Light are almost certainly only minor fan favourites, never mind being widely known enough to ne classed as overrated.

 

As much as Presto is maligned by so many Rush fans, nothing from it can be considered overrated.

[Blue Barchetta]

How about, "All of us do time in the gutter, bad golfers learn to settle for pars..."

[Blue Barchetta]

My apologies: Twice now I've tried to reply to other posts, but for some reason the site's not letting me. My computer may have PC Ebola.

[savagegrace26]

Also, The Pass. Great message and music, but the use of "dreamers learn to look at the cars" just to have a rhyme for "stars" is contrived. Was Neil channeling Steve Miller?

Hmm, that's the one part of the song I don't think worked out well. But I still don't say it's overrated.

 

"The line "All of us get lost in the darkness/Dreamers learn to steer by the stars/All of us do time in the gutter/Dreamers turn to look at the cars" alludes to Oscar Wilde's "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" from his play Lady Windermere's Fan."

[Powderfinger]

YYZ, with Freewill close behind.

[len(songs)]

Also, The Pass. Great message and music, but the use of "dreamers learn to look at the cars" just to have a rhyme for "stars" is contrived. Was Neil channeling Steve Miller?

Hmm, that's the one part of the song I don't think worked out well. But I still don't say it's overrated.

 

"The line "All of us get lost in the darkness/Dreamers learn to steer by the stars/All of us do time in the gutter/Dreamers turn to look at the cars" alludes to Oscar Wilde's "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" from his play Lady Windermere's Fan."

Also, The Pass. Great message and music, but the use of "dreamers learn to look at the cars" just to have a rhyme for "stars" is contrived. Was Neil channeling Steve Miller?

Hmm, that's the one part of the song I don't think worked out well. But I still don't say it's overrated.

 

"The line "All of us get lost in the darkness/Dreamers learn to steer by the stars/All of us do time in the gutter/Dreamers turn to look at the cars" alludes to Oscar Wilde's "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" from his play Lady Windermere's Fan."

I was referring to the use of the word "cars", which doesn't really fit with the rest of the lyrics. Kind of like that godawful rhyme near the end of Hemispheres ("wondered and were sad"), it just seems like it's supposed to rhyme but it doesn't serve much more of a purpose.