What decade does Permanent Waves really belong in?

[Rutlefan]

1980s album. It would be a 70s album if they had included the Sir Gawain and the Green Knight suite instead of Natural Science.

 

Please explain?

 

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight was a piece of English literature that would have had more of a 1970s Yes or KC vibe to i had it ever been made into song. Natural Science is had that streamlined 80s rock vibe.

 

The '70s was a lot more than Yes or KC. Permanent Waves is pure AOR, the characteristic sound of the '70s, apart from disco and punk. Not one video from it, the characteristic trait of mainstream/commercial '80s music. PeW couldn't be more '70s. IMO,

[JohnRogers]

Written, recorded, mixed and sitting on pallets in a warehouse all in 1979. Truth!

[Lorraine]

What do facts have to do with this?

[Segue Myles]

I don't care what decade it belongs too. Either way it is a masterpiece.

[toymaker]

I don't care what decade it belongs too. Either way it is a masterpiece.

 

True, true. But, like, 70s obviously, right?

[Geddy's Soul Patch]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

[Digital Dad]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

[Geddy's Soul Patch]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

Sometimes necessary sacrifices must be made, in the name of justice

[toymaker]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

Sometimes necessary sacrifices must be made, in the name of justice

 

And logic.

 

But . . . no need to ban anyone. I don't think people should be driven away just because they are wrong.

[Lorraine]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

[Digital Dad]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

Sometimes necessary sacrifices must be made, in the name of justice

 

And logic.

 

But . . . no need to ban anyone. I don't think people should be driven away just because they are wrong.

 

If thinking PeW is an 80's album is wrong I dont want to be right.

[toymaker]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

[Lorraine]

I am going to go ask him to come here and settle this weighty and time-consuming matter once and for all.

[Lorraine]

Once he stops laughing, I am sure he will be along. :)

[1-0-0-1-0-0-1]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

[Lorraine]

[Disk98]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

:o Are you saying it's BOTH?

[Lorraine]

We are right back where we started from.

[toymaker]

Here's a (to me) interesting comparison. Genesis' album Duke was released in March of 1980. The band jammed out ideas in mid 1979, rehearsed in August, and recorded up to the end of the year.

 

Even though Duke sounds quite a lot different from earlier 70s Genesis records, it emerges out of work done in the late 70s. They even considered stringing together the "Albert" songs as one side-long track, but decided not to, thinking it would inevitably be compared to Supper's Ready. But it proves that they were still thinking in those "70s" concept terms.

 

Duke seems to get the same reception from critics and fans as Permanent Waves - basically that there is quite a lot of "prog" elements (Duke's Travels), but also more pop (Misunderstanding, Turn it on Again), as if the band is making a transition to a new era. Maybe this has been discussed in some Genesis subforum, but for me it confirms that the decision to release something days or months after it was created comes from a different place than where the music comes from.

[toymaker]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

 

You are a true diplomat, sir.

[1-0-0-1-0-0-1]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

:o Are you saying it's BOTH?

 

We are right back where we started from.

 

Technically, PW is an '80s album because it was released in 1980. However, it was recorded in the '70s, so IMO, it's a '70s album in spirit.

[Lorraine]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

 

You are a true diplomat, sir.

 

That's why he is the Administrator - objective and impartial.

[Lorraine]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

:o Are you saying it's BOTH?

 

We are right back where we started from.

 

Technically, PW is an '80s album because it was released in 1980. However, it was recorded in the '70s, so IMO, it's a '70s album in spirit.

 

That's very funny.

[1-0-0-1-0-0-1]

73 is supposed to be banning anyone who says it's from the 80s....what gives?

 

Why would he do that? He would lose all of his good members.

 

Oh hahahaha. Who told you that silliness?

 

That's 73's way of weeding out the Rush dissidents and leaving the purists. :)

 

 

 

 

;)

 

I'm not sure 73 has ever weighed in on the matter? Surely he has more important things to do like confirm various facts. I'm inclined to give obeisance to his judgment . . . I say this with no small degree of trepidation.

 

Me being an admin on this board does not make me an expert on Rush. Others here are far more qualified than I.

 

But for the sake of argument, for me, there are two ways of looking at it -- when was the album recorded, and when was it released? The release date was January 1, 1980, which means it was recorded in the '70s. Pick one. :)

:o Are you saying it's BOTH?

 

We are right back where we started from.

 

Technically, PW is an '80s album because it was released in 1980. However, it was recorded in the '70s, so IMO, it's a '70s album in spirit.

 

That's very funny.

 

It's also a good way of looking at it (IMO).

[Lorraine]

The the matter is settled.

 

It is a 70s album in spirit.

 

AND an 80s album on account of the fact that it was released on the first day of the first month of the new decade.