EagleMoon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The problem with this thread is that the exact definition wasn't specified in the OP. As far as I'm concerned music belongs to the artist that created it, not to the consumers who listen to it. Just like the rights to a novel belong to the author or a painting to an artist even though they might sell it or have prints made later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) The problem with this thread is that the exact definition wasn't specified in the OP. As far as I'm concerned music belongs to the artist that created it, not to the consumers who listen to it. Just like the rights to a novel belong to the author or a painting to an artist even though they might sell it or have prints made later. It's all my fault then? Edited December 22, 2015 by Lorraine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The problem with this thread is that the exact definition wasn't specified in the OP. As far as I'm concerned music belongs to the artist that created it, not to the consumers who listen to it. Just like the rights to a novel belong to the author or a painting to an artist even though they might sell it or have prints made later. What decade does Permanent Waves really belong in? Thread title sets it up just fine, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 THE FUTURE....in a Ford Galaxy, far, far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's the same style of music as Moving Pictures, an album created in the 80s for the 80s, so Permanent Waves is an 80s album. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 THE FUTURE....in a Ford Galaxy, far, far away. A Ford Prefect might be a better mode of travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's the same style of music as Moving Pictures, an album created in the 80s for the 80s, so Permanent Waves is an 80s album. :D It's half Hemispheres, half Moving Pictures if anything 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 THE FUTURE....in a Ford Galaxy, far, far away. A Ford Prefect might be a better mode of travel. Hey BUDDY, you're harshing my mellow. Whatever the f**k that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's the same style of music as Moving Pictures, an album created in the 80s for the 80s, so Permanent Waves is an 80s album. :D I think it is a half and half album. You would never hear a song like Jacob's Ladder from Rush ever again. That song belonged on AFTK or Hemispheres. Entre Nous and Different Strings sound more seventies than eighties. The other three are an introduction to the new Rush sound. In my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's the same style of music as Moving Pictures, an album created in the 80s for the 80s, so Permanent Waves is an 80s album. :D Shock and Dismay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Permanent Waves is its own thing. A beautiful, triumphant and tragic 70s thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's the same style of music as Moving Pictures, an album created in the 80s for the 80s, so Permanent Waves is an 80s album. :D I think it is a half and half album. You would never hear a song like Jacob's Ladder from Rush ever again. That song belonged on AFTK or Hemispheres. Entre Nous and Different Strings sound more seventies than eighties. The other three are an introduction to the new Rush sound. In my opinion. Well, I think Camera Eye is similar in style to Jacob's Ladder. It's a very visual piece. Both were meant to be. Neil was reading an author (John Dos Passos?) which inspired Camera Eye and I'm guess Jacob's Ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 THE FUTURE....in a Ford Galaxy, far, far away. A Ford Prefect might be a better mode of travel. Hey BUDDY, you're harshing my mellow. Whatever the f**k that means. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/1001001/spicoli.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I am listening to Power Windows for maybe the third time in my life (though there were probably several aborted attempts at a listen). Now THAT's an '80s album. No doubt at all about that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 it was released in 1980. It spent a lot of time on my turntable in 1980. i saw the tour 3 times in 1980. Of course it's a 70's album. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The problem with this thread is that the exact definition wasn't specified in the OP. As far as I'm concerned music belongs to the artist that created it, not to the consumers who listen to it. Just like the rights to a novel belong to the author or a painting to an artist even though they might sell it or have prints made later. What decade does Permanent Waves really belong in? Thread title sets it up just fine, I think. Belong in "how?" That's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) My take away is that anyone can see it was released on the first day of 1980, making it an '80s release. If Rolling Stone or whoever ranked 1980 albums, that's where PeW would be ranked, not in 1979. This is obvious. So, what the original poster seems to be asking is, regardless of the release date, or when recorded, or whatever objective criteria you want to consider, in what decade stylistically does it really fit? For me what is never clear when this question gets asked once every 4-6 months (not complaining) is whether the stylistic identity of the particular decade is defined by Rush's catalog or by what was going on in music in general. I've always used the latter approach, but even if you used the former, I still think PeW is a '70s album. It certainly fits more with their previous work than their latter, with the exception of MP. Edited December 22, 2015 by Rutlefan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 For me what is never clear when this question gets asked once every 4-6 months ... This thread was started in October of 2014. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 For me what is never clear when this question gets asked once every 4-6 months ... This thread was started in October of 2014. :) Making it clearly a 2014 question. It really fits the general mood of the kinds of questions that were being asked during that year. Even though we are still enjoying the question in 2015 - and probably well into 2016 - it doesn't change the fact. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 For me what is never clear when this question gets asked once every 4-6 months ... This thread was started in October of 2014. :) Making it clearly a 2014 question. It really fits the general mood of the kinds of questions that were being asked during that year. Even though we are still enjoying the question in 2015 - and probably well into 2016 - it doesn't change the fact. Zombie threads keep going and going and going.... :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I think part of the reason it was resurrected is because most were sick to death of reading and talking about Neil in one of the almost dozen threads about him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfriar Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Permanent Waves...is its very own decade. :rush: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Permanent Waves...is its very own decade. :rush: And that decade is . . . wait for it . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Permanent Waves...is its very own decade. :rush: A superb answer! :clap: :clap: :clap: It is such an outstanding album, it stands alone and apart from either decade!! :ebert: :ebert: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 For me what is never clear when this question gets asked once every 4-6 months ... This thread was started in October of 2014. :) Fair enough. It gets resurrected every 4-6 months then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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