brunosamppa Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I downloaded the FLV file stream from the Rolling Stone Website, the container have a mp3 file at 160kbps/44khz. The mastering is poor. Sad but true: Here the spectrum in ZOOM OUT form: Pure shit. Maybe the single version was mastered loud to internet and radios. But if this mastering will be the same in the full album, will be a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FountainOfSyrinx Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 We're analyzing this before it's actually been released.. Like analyzing the sound quality of a Live recording straight off the soundboard.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunosamppa Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FountainOfSyrinx Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Someone do a waveform analysis on the 30-sec promo.. that's gotta be the best indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Henry Gale Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Despite the low bit rate, I really do expect the high quality rip to show a similar wave. I think those that have an issue with the loudness, will probably continue to have an issue. At least the higher quality rip will be less compressed and more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUPower Windows Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Oh there's definitely bass on VT. It's pretty spectacular, but it is Geddy we're talking about here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUPower Windows Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Apr 18 2012, 03:50 PM) And STILL nowhere near as muddy and indistinctive sounding as Vapor Trails, no matter how their "waveforms" may compare. I can hear bass guitar on Headlong Flight. I hear rumors that there's bass on VT. forgot to quote xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Doesn't your wave form have something to do with your input levels when you recorded it? I recorded it the first time I listened to it but I took care to adjust the input level first and this is what I got. Sounds fine to me. Not brick walled and nothing like VT, and what's already been said that it's a Stream not the actual rip or CD quality. http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/biffmalibu01012/Rush%20forum/HLFW.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Henry Gale Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (hunter @ Apr 19 2012, 08:58 AM) Doesn't your wave form have something to do with your input levels when you recorded it? I recorded it the first time I listened to it but I took care to adjust the input level first and this is what I got. Sounds fine to me. Not brick walled and nothing like VT, and what's already been said that it's a Stream not the actual rip or CD quality. http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/biffmalibu01012/Rush%20forum/HLFW.jpg I think this is correct. We shall see when we get a V0 or 320 release. I was expecting the wave to be similar, just by listening to it (gauging the loudness). But your chart is interesting. To be honest, I've never really compared stream rips or even looked at charts with streams, because they are usually low quality. So I never thought about the wave form being affected by how you record it. But that makes sense. Edited April 19, 2012 by Mr. Henry Gale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I think I can see Bart Simpson in there.... any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine_sf Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Here's the waveform for a really good sounding 192kbps MP3 that I found on the net...not brickwalled, but it does clip: http://mymedialibrary.com/HLF_192_audacity.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animate Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I am not familiar with waveforms. Is is being used as a measure of song quality, or production quality, or format quality? What exactly is it measuring- just the amplitude of each note? How do you interpret one of these reading in order to decide that a song is of the a quality you are looking for? Do you want a song with a distinct range between the highest and lowest peaks, regardless of volume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animate Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Also, for comparison would someone put up waveforms of Peaceable Kingdom and In the End? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I've never been one to cling onto singles. Really should just wait for the album to come out, then make all judgements and do all the analyzing. And despite what these waveforms indicate, I don't recall any annoying clipping while listening to the single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjnev Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 where is Rip Rowan he can clear this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunosamppa Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 QUOTE (hunter @ Apr 19 2012, 11:58 AM) Doesn't your wave form have something to do with your input levels when you recorded it? I recorded it the first time I listened to it but I took care to adjust the input level first and this is what I got. Sounds fine to me. Not brick walled and nothing like VT, and what's already been said that it's a Stream not the actual rip or CD quality. http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/biffmalibu01012/Rush%20forum/HLFW.jpg I dont recorded, i downloaded de FLV file. And today i downloaded the official version from the youtube and the waveform is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (CrossedSignals @ Apr 18 2012, 09:17 PM) QUOTE (ghostworks @ Apr 18 2012, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Apr 18 2012, 03:50 PM) ...I hear rumors that there's bass on VT. you ought to get your hearing checked, then Alright, to be fair, VT is incredibly bassy-sounding, but there's just no definition to its sound because of the poor mixing. No pop, no zing. It just blends in with the guitar. That's what I meant. It's a muddy blur and nothing highly distinctive at all, except for the headache I get after listening to it with headphones on.. My washing machine has a clearer bass tone than that record. Headlong Flight, however -- brickwalled or not -- has a distinct and clear and separated bass. Edited April 19, 2012 by Presto-digitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analog guy Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Don't know if I've obtained a bad rip or what, but I find it extremely tiring even after one listen. The cymbals are clipping terribly. Really, really disappointed if the final mixes are like this. Yes, you can hear the bass better, but everything else is only marginally better than the VT mixes are. It's too bad because I really do like the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I disagree..."marginally better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 what did the wavforms of Caravan and BU2B look like?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunosamppa Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 QUOTE (Lost In Xanadu @ Apr 20 2012, 12:35 PM) what did the wavforms of Caravan and BU2B look like?!? The Single Caravan/BU2B was mastered by Ted Jensen (from the Iron Maiden Death Magnetic fame) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 QUOTE (brunosamppa @ Apr 20 2012, 03:02 PM) QUOTE (Lost In Xanadu @ Apr 20 2012, 12:35 PM) what did the wavforms of Caravan and BU2B look like?!? The Single Caravan/BU2B was mastered by Ted Jensen (from the Iron Maiden Death Magnetic fame) Sorry...where were these two taken from? Is one from the CD and one from the Vinyl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunosamppa Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes. The fist is the CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 QUOTE (brunosamppa @ Apr 20 2012, 03:14 PM) Yes. The fist is the CD Crazy...I'll have to listen to the vinyl. I have two copies...but no record player at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemispheresserehpsimeH Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 QUOTE (brunosamppa @ Apr 20 2012, 02:02 PM) QUOTE (Lost In Xanadu @ Apr 20 2012, 12:35 PM) what did the wavforms of Caravan and BU2B look like?!? The Single Caravan/BU2B was mastered by Ted Jensen (from the Iron Maiden Death Magnetic fame) Jensen shouldn't be blamed for Death Magnetic. He has already gone on record a ton of times saying that when he got the tracks, they were lost causes even before he received them. That's how bad they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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