Gompers Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (Working backwards on these polls I guess.) After Presto, I became pretty discouraged with Rush because of the poor "tinny" mix and some cheesy songs. Then came Roll The Bones. The shock of this release to me was the "spoken word" part of the title track. I know it wasn't rap but for the tight assed white male, it was close enough. I almost dismissed Rush because of it. Good thing I listened to the whole release before doing so. RTB became salvageable. Here is my take on the songs: The Great -Ghost of a Chance -Bravado The Good -Dreamline -Roll the Bones -Where's My Thing?, Pt. 4: Gangster of Boats Trilogy The OK -You Bet Your Life The Not So OK -Face Up -The Big Wheel -Heresy -Neurotica Overall rating = 6 (maybe 6.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The Great -0 The Good -Ghost of a Chance -Bravado -Dreamline The OK -0 The Not So OK -Roll the Bones -Where's My Thing -You Bet Your Life -Face Up -The Big Wheel -Heresy -Neurotica Overall rating = 2 (feeling generous today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 6.5-ish Like with T4E (which I like better, I might add), it's got plenty of good and plenty of filler too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) As an aside, Face Up may be the most vanilla, benign, milquetoast, flavorless song they've ever done. Not BAD, mind you. Nothing Dog Years about it. No embarrassment. Nothing offensive, really...just almost fatally boring. Edited April 10, 2012 by Presto-digitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Apr 10 2012, 01:25 PM) As an aside, Face Up may be the most vanilla, benign, milquetoast, flavorless song they've ever done. Not BAD, mind you. Nothing Dog Years about it. No embarrassment. Nothing offensive, really...just almost fatally boring. i think there's no comparison to dog years because i like dog years, but yes it's incredibly boring, bland, and flavorless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I gave it a 7. I really enjoy Bravado, Roll The Bones, Dreamline, and Ghost of a Chance. Heresy and Where's My Thing are OK. The rest is mediocre at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonus X-1 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 You Bet Your Life is my favorite song on this album; perhaps that says a lot about what I think of it. But I actually do like all the songs to some extent except for Heresy, with the title track and The Big Wheel ranking among the best of the bunch. However, I don't consider any of them to be truly essential, not "even" YBYL (though I do find it quite catchy). And the way the album was produced causes some tunes to sound terribly weak, especially when compared with some of their recorded-live counterparts (Dreamline and Ghost of a Chance immediately come to mind). So, while I can't be too hard on the record (since I do dig ninety percent of the tunes to some degree), I also can't give it a particularly high grade (since I wouldn't think it a tragedy if I could never listen to it again). I'll go with 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossedSignals Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 6. I like it. Also, mind you, while 6/10 might seem low, this is relative to Rush's whole catalog. If I was scoring it relative to all albums in the world I'd give it an 8, but relative to Rush it's a 6. I like hip hop, so the skeleton rap has never bothered me. In fact, "Roll The Bones" is one of my favorite Rush tracks. I also like Dreamline, Bravado, Face Up, Where's My Thing, and Ghost of a Chance. The live version of that last tune from Retrospective III sounds great too! A lot better than the album original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 i really like heresy once in a while. the music matches the lyrics and the whole fall of the berlin wall and communism in germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I gave it a 2. A trio of ok Rush tracks: Ghost Of A Chance, Dreamline and Bravado do not a decent album make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonus X-1 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 QUOTE (CrossedSignals @ Apr 10 2012, 01:31 PM)I also like Dreamline, Bravado, Face Up, Where's My Thing, and Ghost of a Chance. The live version of that last tune from Retrospective III sounds great too! A lot better than the album original. Absolutely right about the Retro 3 version of Ghost. Similarly, the Different Stages rendition of Dreamline puts the studio version to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossedSignals Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 QUOTE (Cyclonus X-1 @ Apr 10 2012, 01:34 PM) QUOTE (CrossedSignals @ Apr 10 2012, 01:31 PM)I also like Dreamline, Bravado, Face Up, Where's My Thing, and Ghost of a Chance. The live version of that last tune from Retrospective III sounds great too! A lot better than the album original. Absolutely right about the Retro 3 version of Ghost. Similarly, the Different Stages rendition of Dreamline puts the studio version to shame. I don't have Different Stages, but I believe it! Dreamline was one of the highlights of the show when I caught the S&A tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethroned emperor Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The Great N/A The Good -Heresy The OK -Dreamline -Bravado The Not So OK -Roll the Bones -Where's My Thing -You Bet Your Life -Ghost Of A Chance -Face Up -The Big Wheel -Neurotica Overall rating 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Gave it a 4. Sound is too thin. No balls. -2 right off the bat. And I'm just not crazy about half the songs. Top Tier: -Where's My Thing? -Dreamline -Ghost Of A Chance Middle Tier: -Bravado -The Big Wheel Lower Tier: -Heresy -Roll the Bones -You Bet Your Life -Face Up -Neurotica Mind you, this album's top tier is not the same as the top tier on, say, Permanent Waves. I do think "Where's My Thing?" is a real good one, though. Listened to it recently and I think it's a very well put together instrumental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 QUOTE (CrossedSignals @ Apr 10 2012, 01:31 PM) 6. I like it. Also, mind you, while 6/10 might seem low, this is relative to Rush's whole catalog. If I was scoring it relative to all albums in the world I'd give it an 8, but relative to Rush it's a 6. I like hip hop, so the skeleton rap has never bothered me. In fact, "Roll The Bones" is one of my favorite Rush tracks. I also like Dreamline, Bravado, Face Up, Where's My Thing, and Ghost of a Chance. The live version of that last tune from Retrospective III sounds great too! A lot better than the album original. Good points here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Apr 10 2012, 01:32 PM) i really like heresy once in a while. the music matches the lyrics and the whole fall of the berlin wall and communism in germany. It's a darkhorse on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Funny how much the band (Geddy esp?) seems to love this record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossedSignals Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Apr 10 2012, 02:20 PM) Funny how much the band (Geddy esp?) seems to love this record. I'm guessing it's because (as was mentioned in another thread) it's a fun album. It's high-energy and has a lot of engaging grooves/rhythms. It's probably fun to play too. Or, the more cynical reason is that (according to Wikipedia) it's the only Rush album to go platinum in the US since Power Windows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandDesigner Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The Great None The Good Bravado The Okay Ghost Of A Chance Heresy Roll The Bones The What-the-f**k-were-they-thinking Neurotica Dreamline You Bet Your Life The Big Wheel Face Up Where's My Thing? Horrible album. Gave it a 3/10. Bravado is the clear standout, and Ghost Of A Chance is boring aside from the guitar solo. They really got their shit together with Counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAccountant Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 The great: Dreamline Bravado The good: The Big Wheel The Ok Roll the Bones (if not for the "rap" portion it might have qualified as "good' Ghost of a Chance The not so ok: Face Up Where's my Thing Heresy Neurotica You Bet Your Life The bad Nothing Gave it a 4. Only 3 albums rank lower with me (VT, CoS and ST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo73 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I gave it a 7. it's in my top 5 fave RUSH albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of the 7 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 9. My reasons for loving it are in a few other threads, so I won't repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I give it a 3, just slightly above TFE for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Avatar Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I rate it a 7, although I know that's high around these parts. I'd love to see them play Where's My Thing? again live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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