thelocator Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_the_shark Jumping The Shark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_Oliver Cousin Oliver Syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_discography RUSH Discography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyJeff Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I typically think of this term meaning to resort to gimmicks in order to remain interesting, something Rush has never done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Not surprisingly "Never" is extremely popular. Loved the history lesson on "jumping the shark"....I remember watching that Happy Days episode when it first aired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Sell out ? No. They did write some real bad songs however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Nah...the band may have some peaks and valleys in terms of albums, but nothing was dire! I think the diversity of their catalog (as evidenced by the thread that has you list your top to bottom favorite albums) is their charm! You see people all over the board with their preferences, which is cool! I think the only way we'd see anything close to that is if they start bringing in popular contemporary outside players (sort of like Santana's Supernatural album) to make things different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Hmm...would the 2 people who chose HYF, and the 2 people who chose Presto care to explain why they consider this to be the case? I'm curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastille Dave Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think it was a long time comin' starting maybe possibly with Pew but you could say that about any album from PeW on up to maybe Counterparts. I voted for PoW, even though their 80's sound was gradually beginning to take shape since MP or Signals, they took a major leap in that direction with PoW. "The Big Money"....nuf said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Sep 1 2010, 08:51 AM) Hmm...would the 2 people who chose HYF care to explain why they consider this to be the case? Beacause it's watered down dog plop ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Sep 1 2010, 09:51 AM) Hmm...would the 2 people who chose HYF, and the 2 people who chose Presto care to explain why they consider this to be the case? I'm curious! They're not diverse in their musical interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I don't think Rush ever "jumped the shark". Obviously, they did change and try new things, but I don't think it was ever for the purpose of selling more records or getting more radio or MTV exposure. I think Rush's integrity has remained constant throughout their entire career, sometimes resulting in hits and sometimes resulting in misses. Yeah, their career batting average has declined, but not enough to say they lost it or sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 The Only song I can think of that would apply would be... Roll the Bones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (circumstantial tree @ Sep 1 2010, 09:23 AM) QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Sep 1 2010, 09:51 AM) Hmm...would the 2 people who chose HYF, and the 2 people who chose Presto care to explain why they consider this to be the case? I'm curious! They're not diverse in their musical interests. I don't think that is the case. Some people just don't like Every album, that's all. I voted Never but i can't listen to that album. Far removed from the Rush i was used to hearing . Change is good , but that was a bit much for me. I have a huge volume of all types of music but when one of my fav bands does a 360 on me i am not that happy about it . I still went to see the tour because i am a huge fan but that album does zero for me, except Lock and Key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Slipperman Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Yeah, I'd have to vote "never" as well. Gotta admit, for about 2 seconds I was tempted to say Counterparts, but ONLY because it was a return to a heavier sound at a time when that heavier sound was back in vogue (Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc)....but to me that's just Rush putting some meat back on dem bones. Pun intended! Edited September 1, 2010 by Mystic Slipperman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jbroad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 i think rush has always stayed true to their musical vision. i definitely have my favorite recordings which i think are better than others but they've never jumped the shark. this is why they are one of my favorite rock bands of all-time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sathington WillOUghby Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I chose Signals, because from that album on, they went 100% radio friendly song format. (Although they are showing signs of breaking out of that!) It is a self imposed limitation that has had an impact on all of their music since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (metaldad @ Sep 1 2010, 06:42 AM)Sell out ? No. They did write some real bad songs however THIS! QUOTE (losingit2k @ Sep 1 2010, 07:33 AM)The Only song I can think of that would apply would be... Roll the Bones! And THIS! While I don't believe they ever intentionally sold out, the song RTB was my subjective moment of jumping the shark for Rush, in that it actually turned me off of the band entirely for a couple of years. I didn't like the last two songs on HYF, thought Presto was mediocre, and then when I heard this song in the radio I really thought they lost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun3701 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think they nuked the fridge with S&A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Ok, re-reading the wiki entry for jumping the shark, I'm going to say that while I don't think Rush ever intentionally sold out, for me they definitely jumped the shark with Presto, which was a sharp and noticeable drop in quality for them from everything that came before, and it's never been quite the same since. Counterparts was a very bright spot, and at least half of S&A was great too, but otherwise good songs have been few and far between. Of their 18 studio albums, their post-HYF albums hold the #12 and #14 through #18 spots for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbomb106 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'm confused by the wording of this. Did Rush ever jump the shark? You never unjump a shark. The person who coined the phrase said "It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak. That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill." (Per the wiki link provided.) To say that Rush has jumped the shark means that you think one album was their last good one and everything since it has been worse. That might be what you're saying, but the inclusion of the word "ever" - and some of the responses here - make me think the question meant was "Has Rush ever put out anything that you didn't like for some reason?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdog212 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Jump The Shark no Jump The Dolphin close Being in that shit movie I Love You Man I have been to over 50 shows and I have never seen anybody come close to acting the way those 2 idiot main characters did at there concert.It made Rush and there fans look like airhead assholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 QUOTE (snowdog212 @ Sep 1 2010, 03:46 PM) Jump The Shark no Jump The Dolphin close Being in that shit movie I Love You Man I have been to over 50 shows and I have never seen anybody come close to acting the way those 2 idiot main characters did at there concert.It made Rush and there fans look like airhead assholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I voted "Never". RUSH has always written, produced and performed music they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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