SlyJeff

This is amazing- way better than I thought it would be. LOVE the solo in CU. Really, this makes it sound like we were given a demo originally and this is the final version- longest recording process in history.

I like pretty much everything except VT- and that has nothing to do with their output as musicians, but technical mistakes that cause my ears to bleed. I really like all three- I can't say I'm primarily a fan of one member. I do think Alex is under-appreciated, though.

How does a perfectionist band like Rush allow this to happen? Boggles the mind doesn't it. They weren't even sure they were capable of making music at that point. VT was all about survival, not perfection. It was a very dark time for them.

Muse

Ok, I'll take one more stab at this. What the grunge scene brought to music was a stripped download more raw energy to music. Ten, Dirt, Superunknown, and Mevermind where very different for what had been going on up until then, and rock music changed almost overnight. Poison, Warrant, Def Leppard, etc. all became irrelevant almost overnight. What is interesting is that the bands really had their own identities, and for my money the only one I was ever really into in a big way was Pearl Jam ("Ten" is my second favorite album of all time), but I understood how these albums all were game changers in rock music. And most people credit Nevermind with being the real instigator. And what I'm saying is, all of that stripped down, less polished feel was already steaming along before Cobain's suicide. Honestly, I wasn't listening to electronic music in the 90s, so I have no idea about that. I've always pretty much listened to rock, and there is no question in my mind that rock music changed dramatically shortly after Nevermind hit the shelves. The funny thing is, Ghrol himself says that he wasn't much of a factor in Nirvana. That it was really Cobain's band and he was just along for the ride. I also like FF 10x than anything Nirvana did.

Goober, come on man, you lived through that era- you have to remember the dramatic shift that happened when the Seattle bands blew up like they did, and it happened without Cobain's suicide. The effect was already felt and things were already different. As for whether it was crappy music that was influenced- I guess that's a matter of opinion, but I prefer the raw music that followed Nevermind to the super polished hair metal that proceeded it. But really, not much needs to be said on that topic. A lot of people like Foo Fighters. Clearly the band does. For whatever reason Grohl is a well respected individual for his contributions of rock music- it's a good fits and that's what really matters however you feel about where his popularity came from.

This is an ideal choice. Just the fact that Geddy and Alex showed up to play YYZ with Hawkins is a pretty good reason to have these guys do it. Watching that video you see that Hawkins is just thrilled to be jamming with those guys- that's the right kind of attitude to have about this band. And Grohl is just an all around good guy who is a fan of the band. It makes sense. Regarding Nirvana only being popular because of Cobain's suicide- no, that isn't even close to true. They were huge before that happened, and already quite influential. I actually am not a big fan of Nirvana musically, but their impact on the music industry is undeniable. That being said, the Foo Fighters really have very little to do with Nirvana- they do stand on their own feet. I like their music, and it seems that the guys in Rush do too, so I feel I'm in good company.

Somebody should have mentioned this already, but if you aren't going to go for the greatest hits route, start with "Moving Pictures". It's the band's masterpiece. I love every era of their music, but this really ought to be the first album any new fan buys besides a greatest hits album (or the new one if you are going to a show and want to hear the material they are touring).

Didn't enjoy them, but it is what it is. Those of you saying we could have three more songs- it's pretty doubtful. My guess is time is not the limiting factor of how much they play. There's a break in the show for a reason.

I actually thought it was pretty good. Enhances the music. Wish I could have read it without all of the lyrical references. They definitely took me out of the story and were especially annoying when the meaning had changed.

A few chapters in. Actually enjoying more than I thought, but the lyric quotes are really disracting. They pull me out of the story every time.

That guy playing the drums . . . Really, though, I'm just not an excitable person. I'll clap or whatever, but I really just like it listen and watch the band play. I don't display a lot of outward emotion. My guess is if Neil was watching his favorite band play, he'd look a lot like I do.

I wouldn't say no to meeting them, but it's not a dream of mine. I'm not big into having heros. I prefer to concentrate on real people of flesh and blood- those people I can know unfiltered by media. I think Rush makes amazing music, but that's what they are to me- musicians whose music I dig. It might be cool to get to know them in another context, but there are lots of people who are far more accessible to me and probably just as cool to know.

QUOTE (spock @ Sep 16 2012, 06:33 AM) Good posting - but, next time please complain a little more about the overuse of 80s Rush music at Rush concerts! Gah, you are so right! Should've been titled "which Neitzche inspired song are you most ticked about not being played this this tour".

All music is on my iPhone/iPad, all videos are ripped to my PC and available via AppleTv. I don't really like messing with physical media and I demand to have everything available at the touch of a button.

QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Sep 7 2012, 01:50 PM) QUOTE (HalfwayToGone @ Sep 7 2012, 06:40 AM)That said, this novel is playing to probably the most literate and discriminating crowd of any rock band fanbase in history. The word that you're looking for is "nerdy". Nothing against nerds, but sheesh that's some hyperbole. Unless Rand, Tolkien, and Asimov constitute the literary canon now. A) The bar isn't exactly high- it doesn't take much to be the "most" literate and discriminiating crowd of a rock band. You need to add Nietzsche, Voltair, and a few other less "nerdy" authors to your list.

I never have a steady diet of a single album that lasts more than a few days. Even at the end of the first week it was out I was listening to other stuff- bit that's par for the course. I still put it on and listen from end to end about once per week. I haven't listened to S&A since CA came out and I was probably at once per month before it did.

Hmmmm- I gotta admit so far it does not read well. Introducing a character as "his one true love" lacks any kind of impact. Show, don't tell, IMO. Especially since the show part of their relationship leaves me unconvinced Owen even really believes it himself. Also the references to the songs are so direct they feel forced. We can get that he's thinking big without him actually saying it. Show, don't tell, IMO. Oh wait, I said that already. I think I'll probably buy it just so I'll know the story to hang the songs in, but I'm not impressed with the writer.

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jul 26 2012, 09:06 PM) Great Idea! 1. Far Cry 2. Armor & Sword 3. Workin' Them Angels 4. Malignant Narcissism 5. Caravan 6. BU2B 7. Clockwork Angels 8. The Anarchist 9. The Main Monkey Business 10. The Wreckers 11. Headlong Flight 12. Hope 13. The Garden Pretty close- just have to make a few tweaks 1. Far Cry 2. We Hold On 3. Carnies 4. Malignant Narcissism 5. Caravan 6. BU2B 7. Clockwork Angels 8. The Anarchist 9. The Main Monkey Business 10. The Wreckers 11. Headlong Flight 12. Seven Cities of Gold 13. The Garden

QUOTE (anchorman @ Jul 17 2012, 05:01 PM) I'm shocked at how many people put HYF in the top 10. My guess is that HYF may have been the CD that got those listeners to become new fans. It is easily my least favorite Rush CD. Roll The bones would be the next least favorite. Don't get me wrong, there are a handful of songs from those CD's that I like but for the most part..... I'd keep: Force 10 Time Stand Still Prime Mover High Water Tai Shan Bravado Roll The Bones Where's my thing ? Ghost of a Chance I like both albums a lot, though I don't know that either are in my top ten (and RtB is the album where I became a fan). Dreamline and TSS are in my too 3 Rush songs (along with Subdivisions) though. I guess my rankings right now look like the following, with CA sure to slip in the coming months: MP PeW 2112 PoW Hemispheres CA S&A GuP Signals RtB HYF FBN Counterparts AFK T4E Presto Rush CoS VT

QUOTE (JohnnyBlaze @ Jul 17 2012, 07:00 AM) Everyday Glory is beating Cygnus X-1? WTF?! I can understand The Garden beating Cygnus (I don't agree with it) but I understand it. Cygnus is in more direct competition with LVS and NS. People who like the style of EG have less similar songs to pull way their votes.

LVS- AINEC. The Garden is somewhere in the middle of this list. To be honest, it's probably near the bottom for me on CA. And Bravado smokes the Garden for me, whatever the other poll says. It's a decent song, but I just don't get what all the excitement is about. In the history of ballads there are hundreds of better songs than The Garden, but in the history of Rock and/or instrumentals there not many better songs than LVS.

I disagree that it is barely positive- choosing life over misplaced belief is a huge decision, and a transition many people don't make. Without the change in BU2B2 there is no Garden or Wish Them Well. Even the positive looking back in Headlong Flight is not the same thing as choosing to move forward in a positive way, unhindered by the chains of a hurtful, incorrect belief. I dare say BU2B2 is the emotional center of the album with the songs preceding it telling us of his "old life" enslaved to false belief (except for Headlong Flight, which is a positive reflection on a painful adventure), and the songs after it telling us the changes that come from this enlightenment. I don't care that it doesn't stand alone as a song because it's pretty short and the rest of the songs on the album do a fantastic job of standing one their own, but I can see why that irritates you.

QUOTE (vital signz @ Jul 13 2012, 06:22 AM) I firmly believe I would have liked the album more if they hadn't changed the opening of BU2B (the voice sounds not so good, and the guitars tinty, not full and thick sounding like Halo Effect---prob because of The Mobile Lerxst unit being so different from the studio) and if maybe there was a bit of effect or reverb or echo on Ged's voice on BU2B2 or if they had substituted an instrumental for BU2B2. Other than that I love the album to death... I don't like the new intro either- the acoustic guitar sounds terrible.